100 def lvl

someone should roll a heavy armor vit build psychic with def lvl shards for TWs :O

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

To my understanding, 1 def lvl = 1% less damage taken.. but that seems odd because it would be possible to get 100 def level (assuming it isn't capped or something) and I doubt they'd allow you to get perma immune to damage >.> Anyway, anyone know how this works?

Actually,100def level doesn't make you perma immune.If someone with 1 atk level or higher attacks someone with 100def level,the one with 100 def level will still take dmg.You can try looking in the Archer forum.There was some thread about attack and defense levels

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

someone should roll a heavy armor vit build psychic with def lvl shards for TWs :O

With jones blessing they'd still take 30% dmg.

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

To my understanding, 1 def lvl = 1% less damage taken.. but that seems odd because it would be possible to get 100 def level (assuming it isn't capped or something) and I doubt they'd allow you to get perma immune to damage >.> Anyway, anyone know how this works?

I remember Trawne mentioning something to me before that it is not equivalent after a certain amount. Such as 30 Def level wouldn't be 30% reduction, but more around 28%. Now, I can' say for certain if this is true, but if it isn't, then I imagine the cap would be 99% regardless of Def level. However, the only character who could ever reach this high would be a Psychic with at least level 9 White Voodoo and all of their armor slots filled with +2 Def level stones. Even so, I would imagine they would fill them with +2 Atk level stones so as to offset the 99 Atk level reduction from level 10 White Voodoo, assuming they wanted to use that. Honestly, all Atk stones (48 Atk levels), Black Voodoo Sage (25 Atk levels) and this new blessing (30 Atk levels) on top of their already crazy damage from magic, you have someone who is pretty much a glass gamma ray burster. They would basically be doing double the damage of a normal attack without any Voodoo applied. Combine that with a 10 second Soulburn in which if you attack you pretty much kill yourself, and they are going to kill you quickly.

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

inb4psychicwithperma99deflvlpullingcata

*Perks up*
b:bored

Then comes a warsoul sin with a zeal genie/dragonfire and 1 shots the super psy anyways. b:pleased

TheBishSlap - Lost City wrote: »

look at it this way 1 def lvl = 1% reduction 2 def lvl are like 1.9% because it takes 1% off the 99% damage you were already taking 3 def lvl are like 2.89% and so on

I'm not sure about defense levels, but archers have done the math with attack levels, and it doesn't quite add up to be 1% per level... when you stack a significant amount of it, it worked out to be about .67% per level, or some ****.

Mhh math time!

If this is true:

TheBishSlap - Lost City wrote: »

look at it this way 1 def lvl = 1% reduction 2 def lvl are like 1.9% because it takes 1% off the 99% damage you were already taking 3 def lvl are like 2.89% and so on

Then the dmg formula when defense lvl is higher than atk lvl is:
Dmg_recieved = Dmg * (0,99) ^ (def-atk)

Then we have a good friend that says:

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »

with 67 def level the dmg reduction is ~50%

And if we put it in that formula:
Dmg_recieved = Dmg * (0,99) ^ 67 = Dmg * 0,509985746
Which tell us that's probably right

then:

volst wrote: »

Sage white voodoo +71
All sockets +52
3rd Cube neck +5
3rd Warsong belt +5
Attendance ring +1
6 Nirvana set +13

Total: 147 defense lvl

Now, suposing that atacker has 0 atack lvl then the max damage reduction is:
Dmg_recieved = Dmg * (0,99) ^ 147 = Dmg * 0,22823046
So, the damage reduction it's 77,17%

edit:
which means it allways helps, but you won't be able to be invencible. Now with jone's blessing (+30) and someone with all sockets with diamond of tigger (+32), it makes 62 atk lvl, so:
Dmg_recieved = Dmg * (0,99) ^ (147-62) = Dmg * 0,434231
Dmg will be reduced by ~57%

plus, if this is right:

Michael_dark wrote: »

I'm not sure about defense levels, but archers have done the math with attack levels, and it doesn't quite add up to be 1% per level... when you stack a significant amount of it, it worked out to be about .67% per level, or some ****.

Dmg reduction will be less

edit2:
a barb will still be better for cata pulling, since every point of vit gives 17 on barb and 10 on psychic [barb almost doubles psychic], plus sage true form gives 30% more HP

Olivassin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

edit:
which means it allways helps, but you won't be able to be invencible. Now with jone's blessing (+30) and someone with all sockets with diamond of tigger (+32), it makes 62 atk lvl, so:
Dmg_recieved = Dmg * (0,99) ^ (147-62) = Dmg * 0,434231
Dmg will be reduced by ~57%

Since when does anyone have 32 sockets to use tigers in? Last I checked 26 sockets was max including a 2 socket weapon...

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

ah ok, thx =]

inb4psychicwithperma99deflvlpullingcata

99def=54.3%reduction if attacker have 0 att lv, attacker with jones= 45.3

b:byeb:byeb:bye