New Daily Quest

Anzillu - Raging Tide
Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
edited June 2010 in Suggestion Box
no, this doesn't give exp. make it like a dragon quest (or whatever their called on this server). instead of giving someone X amount of mob drop stuff, you give them X amount of a mat you can mine (both vary on level). and when your done you get 15K times your level. like if your level 45, you have to mine rough lumber, coal, gravel, and high carbon steel, and give 10 of whatever one of those needed to an npc, then another, and so on, for like 7 people lets say. then when you go turn it in, you get 60k (15x4). if your level 50, same mats, except 15 count, and you get 75k (15x5). would help people get money for skills, and possibly make trips between Head Hunter npc and back to bosses quicker by using the stone by south tele (one in west i know, but i use south). as well as help people out who want to sell zen or item shop stuff, but at the same time, keep the economy system the same.
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  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Not gonna happen cuz PWI makes too much money from boutique-bought mats. And I'm sure there are about 10 reasons not to do this that I'm not thinking of.
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    what are the ten reasons then?
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  • Scathatch - Harshlands
    Scathatch - Harshlands Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    haha yeah, but also there's too much money in the pwi system as it is....that's what the Jolly Jones event is for....as well as for them to earn money off the little token pack things but w/e

    They won't add this cuz they earn money off boutique mats, and cuz they cant afford to give players that much ingame money
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    what are the ten reasons then?
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm sure there are about 10 reasons not to do this that I'm not thinking of.

    I'm too tired to try and think of them. I'll let everyone else do that as I know they will.
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    how can they not afford it? say you wanna buy zen, or an item that someones selling from the zen shop. you have money saved from this, so you go buy it. now that person who has it buys more zen to replace the item. its basic economics. you want the economy to grow, you offer money. this is the only option i see other then offering people to purchase gold from a website. the economy on PW-MY is outrageous when it comes to buying cubi (zen), which is sold at 1.3mil. BUT, when stalls buy items like mats or what not, they buy them for more money, so you make money to help support yourself potion wise, skill wise, and tele wise. i'm not a noob when it comes to making money. i know many ways to do it, but this server (raging tides anyways) its very hard to make money, anyway you try
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    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm too tired to try and think of them. I'll let everyone else do that as I know they will.

    so....i could say there are 100 reasons why its a good idea, but don't have to back up my theory? sweet. then 2+2=11, because i say so, i don't need to prove it
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Wow... let me try and rephrase so you can understand what I'm trying to say. I know there are other reasons not to do this, I don't remember what they are right now which is not my fault, and you do not remember things by request. You should stop reading too much into people's posts, because you end up making stupid posts like that one.
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    so, then i can say i know everything there is to know, but i can't remember it. maybe i am reading too much into it, or maybe your just not making sense
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I'm making sense, you are reading too much into what people say, resulting in yet another stupid post. How long you want to keep it up?
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i'm waiting for you to say something that makes sense. there are either reasons why this won't work, or not. if you know there are 10 reasons, then what are they? or are you just exaggerating it to make a point?
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    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    For once I don't see people farming mats on ground mounts, I am happy.
    You want them to come back and fight over it, leaving nothing to others? Heck no.

    As for mats, they got various uses already. Crafting, wines and so on.

    If people did kill the market by putting awful rates, it's their fault.
    I now make money via mid-herbs.
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    yeah, i know. i know how to make money but its hard on here. maybe don't need mats, could be mob drop stuff too, but i'm just saying an example. they could maybe also make it like talking to a bunch of NPC's like world quest. but it think they can drop the npc amount by making us give items, so as its not a 5 min activity.

    maybe instead of mats, give npc bought equipment? theres plenty of mats everywhere. and everyones not gonna be doing the quest at the same time. and i'm not meaning mats for every npc. like dragon quest, you talk to an npc, give items to one, talk to one, kill mobs, talk to one, give items,. so maybe this could go, talk to an npc, kill mobs (20 count, something low), talk to an npc, give items, talk to an npc, kill mobs (20 count), talk to an npc, then your done. then you got gold to do your quests quickly by teleporting, or buying some skills that you needed money for, or possibly equipment or potions.

    we all know the cost for skills gets higher by level. 89 skills are 1mil SP and gold, 1.5 at 92, 2mil at 99. the only other thing i could think of would be to increase the gold rewards on quests. getting 10k for killing 40 mobs is fine, or the items dropped being sold, for repairing. but as soon as you go buy skills, your broke.

    so then what do you do if you want a petride, or a piece of fashion, or a good piece of equipment you've found, whether it be TT or mold or 2star with really good stats. do you skip out on upgrading skills that will hurt you in the long run? or maybe buying mats that are otherwise hard to come by for drops because the level difference between you and the mob is too greatly affecting the drop rate.
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    or are you just exaggerating it to make a point?
    Yes, sort of.
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  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    no, this doesn't give exp. make it like a dragon quest (or whatever their called on this server). instead of giving someone X amount of mob drop stuff, you give them X amount of a mat you can mine (both vary on level). and when your done you get 15K times your level. like if your level 45, you have to mine rough lumber, coal, gravel, and high carbon steel, and give 10 of whatever one of those needed to an npc, then another, and so on, for like 7 people lets say. then when you go turn it in, you get 60k (15x4). if your level 50, same mats, except 15 count, and you get 75k (15x5). would help people get money for skills, and possibly make trips between Head Hunter npc and back to bosses quicker by using the stone by south tele (one in west i know, but i use south). as well as help people out who want to sell zen or item shop stuff, but at the same time, keep the economy system the same.

    Well,since you want reasons so bad,I'll give some to you
    Reasons why no one will do it:
    1.Selling the mats to cat shops makes more money.

    2.Not alot of people will benefit since there are people on 11m/s mounts farming mats

    3.It causes a lot of hassle just to do the quest

    4.Mats are better off channelled into manufacturing

    5.Most people will make more money grinding compared to gathering the mats

    6.There are other better uses for mats(Wines/Ultimate Substances for TT etc.)

    7.Your idea is inconsistent.(Compare hgihlighted areas)If it gives the 1st red portion,it would **** the mats economy.If it's the second one,no one will do it since it doesn't yield enough profit to get people to farm mats

    8.We don't need more coins in the game.

    9.The quest takes longer to do than flying to the dungeons for BH so it's more pointless

    10.Leveling skills cost more than the coins it gives

    11.Coins=exp anyway so your argument that it doesn't give exp is invalid(Coins can be used to teleport for faster BH runs,used to buy stones for Crazy Stone,teleport for faster World Quest etc.)
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yes, sort of.

    thats what i thought. if you have a valid point, say it. but don't say something just to include yourself into a conversation
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I did have a valid point in my post. That PWI makes too much money from boutique-bought mats to bother implementing this.
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  • Scathatch - Harshlands
    Scathatch - Harshlands Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    OMFG okay, OP this will not be implemented, because if you read ANY of the news thingies, you will know that PWI is trying to get rid of the extra money by getting people to buy things from NPCs, so having NPCs give away money would COMPLETELY ruin the point of the Jolly Jones event.

    Reason #1 ^
    Reason #2 is cuz they make money off the dumb boutique mats things

    There dont need to be more reasons though I'm sure there are, because those two are enough reasons to make sure it is never implemented, or at least-not in the near future
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well,since you want reasons so bad,I'll give some to you
    Reasons why no one will do it:
    1.Selling the mats to cat shops makes more money.

    2.Not alot of people will benefit since there are people on 11m/s mounts farming mats

    3.It causes a lot of hassle just to do the quest

    4.Mats are better off channelled into manufacturing

    5.Most people will make more money grinding compared to gathering the mats

    6.There are other better uses for mats(Wines/Ultimate Substances for TT etc.)

    7.Your idea is inconsistent.(Compare hgihlighted areas)If it gives the 1st red portion,it would **** the mats economy.If it's the second one,no one will do it since it doesn't yield enough profit to get people to farm mats

    8.We don't need more coins in the game.

    9.The quest takes longer to do than flying to the dungeons for BH so it's more pointless

    10.Leveling skills cost more than the coins it gives

    11.Coins=exp anyway so your argument that it doesn't give exp is invalid(Coins can be used to teleport for faster BH runs,used to buy stones for Crazy Stone,teleport for faster World Quest etc.)

    rarely see cat shops buying mats, or even people buying them from catshops

    doesn't really have to be mats, just using it as an example of something easy to come by

    its a daily, you got all day to do it

    true

    maybe at level 70+ when most of your skill are maxed and can go into dungeons for mats for your equipment

    meaning you don't

    idk about you, but i don't level all my skills at once. i pick which ones would be more useful for me to get first, then go from there, and i tend to run out of SP before i do coins for skills

    how do coins=exp?
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Scathatch - Harshlands wrote: »
    OMFG okay, OP this will not be implemented, because if you read ANY of the news thingies, you will know that PWI is trying to get rid of the extra money by getting people to buy things from NPCs, so having NPCs give away money would COMPLETELY ruin the point of the Jolly Jones event.

    Reason #1 ^
    Reason #2 is cuz they make money off the dumb boutique mats things

    There dont need to be more reasons though I'm sure there are, because those two are enough reasons to make sure it is never implemented, or at least-not in the near future

    again, basic economics. if people have money to buy zen, they usually tend to try to use that to make gold. if someone buys a jolly jones pack, then the seller needs to replace it if they intend to make more money, so they buy more zen, to replenish the jolly jones pack. as a result, PWI makes more money
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    how do coins=exp?
    Oracles, Scarlet Fruit, and Hyper all bought from player shops
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I did have a valid point in my post. That PWI makes too much money from boutique-bought mats to bother implementing this.

    you people are taking my "use of mats" idea too seriously. its an idea. the whole concept of this post is the money making. the method of doing it is just one idea. again, i know how to make money in this game, but its very hard on this server to keep money after buying skills and potions or what not. i see many people in my faction saying "i need to fly because i'm saving for a skill" or "i need to fly because i'm broke" some people may have the time to constantly fly somewhere. but most of us work for a living and need to maintain a household. so spending 10-15 mins to fly somewhere, then another 10-15 mins to fly back, is just a waste of time. and either being someone who's helpful, or needed alot for BH of FB, it would be quicker for that person, as well as the party to get it done quick, as everyone may be on a time limit (getting ready for bed, or work, or school)
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oracles, Scarlet Fruit, and Hyper all bought from player shops

    well then thats just another reason why it would be a good idea for this.
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    well then thats just another reason why it would be a good idea for this.
    O.o

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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    lol. its my thread. if someone has an idea, they should push for it. if you had an idea that made sense, and someone said no, would you just say "ok, i give up then". sorry, but i wouldn't.
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    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • Scathatch - Harshlands
    Scathatch - Harshlands Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Anzillu - Raging Tide wrote: »
    well then thats just another reason why it would be a good idea for this.

    nuuuu!!! We already have enough lvl 100+ players saying wtf is an fb? Or getting beat by lvl 7X veno's in pk because they can't play their class!!!!
    Enough oraclersb:shocked We dont need moreb:shocked
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    This game has so much easy exp that pve is dead and there are too many level 90 noobs, saying that even more easy exp is a good thing is gonna get your thread locked because of the severe trolling and flaming you caused.
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  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Scathatch - Harshlands wrote: »
    nuuuu!!! We already have enough lvl 100+ players saying wtf is an fb? Or getting beat by lvl 7X veno's in pk because they can't play their class!!!!
    Enough oraclersb:shocked We dont need moreb:shocked

    lmao. thats great. i can say though from experience that you don't need oracles to be a level 100 noob. some people it just comes naturallyb:laugh and i've frequently seen people on other servers sell their accounts. so some kid with mommy and daddy's credit card is gonna buy a level 100 whatever, when they've only played the game for 3 days.

    and if anyone wants advice on how to play their class they can ask me. i know practically everything to know about the classes     (other then the tideborn)
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This game has so much easy exp that pve is dead and there are too many level 90 noobs, saying that even more easy exp is a good thing is gonna get your thread locked because of the severe trolling and flaming you caused.

    only troll i see is you, and again, my thread. if they lock it, they lock it, until then. the post are staying on topic. flaming is when they go off topic 11741676837unsuccessful.jpg

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    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver20
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver20 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I can see trying to argue with you is futile, so I'm not going to waste any more of my time, you're not worth it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Anzillu - Raging Tide
    Anzillu - Raging Tide Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I can see trying to argue with you is futile, so I'm not going to waste any more of my time, you're not worth it.

    b:bye buh-bye
    Dark for fear of failure
    An inner gloom as wide as an eye of fermenting
    Roiling hate
    Death grip in my veins
    Unveiling rancid petals
    Flowering fourth foul nectar
    Space between a blink and a tear
    Death blooms

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