Sacrificial strike axes in pve

Smobo - Heavens Tear
Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
edited June 2010 in Blademaster
My BM is getting close to 70, and I was wondering how effective the sacrificial stike special is in PvE. I've heard a lot of things about calimaties, but they tend to be on both extremes of good/bad, I've heard that they do more harm than good, and I've heard that they are so good, getting a decent refined one can only upgraded to a stronger set with the sac strike proc (tt90 gold, nirvana, lucky oht, etc). I can see how insane they can be in PvP (especially with high crit rates), but how good are they in PvE, paticulatirly from an aoeing standpoint.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Smobo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My BM is getting close to 70, and I was wondering how effective the sacrificial stike special is in PvE. I've heard a lot of things about calimaties, but they tend to be on both extremes of good/bad, I've heard that they do more harm than good, and I've heard that they are so good, getting a decent refined one can only upgraded to a stronger set with the sac strike proc (tt90 gold, nirvana, lucky oht, etc). I can see how insane they can be in PvP (especially with high crit rates), but how good are they in PvE, paticulatirly from an aoeing standpoint.

    When you do three 8-10k hits in a row, you will know why those are said to be the best axe there is for BMs at 7x. So yes, get calamities.
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  • Asmodiel - Heavens Tear
    Asmodiel - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,442 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Zerk axes are nice, pve and pvp

    BUT

    Be prepared the suffer some charm ticks or waste alot of hp pots, cuz each time zerk strikes, it's -5% health + dmg suffered from whatever you're killing/hitting.
    Even if the hit misses, the zerk effect will take your health
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Um.....considering the normal hit I get from my calamities is between 3 and 8k, and then my crits are between 10 and 18k. Yeah, i'd say they are really damn awesome b:victory


    The -5% doesn't really affect you much if you AoE grind w/ good crit %. (I got 10% from going back to a 3 str, 2 dex build.) Also if you have a HP charm/good pots, you can survive the full time w/o much trouble.




    So personally, I would suggest getting them, as they are the best 7x Axe's you can aqquire, along with that if you refine them (mine aren't even refined xD), to say like +5-+7 they can even outbeat TT90 axes.
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Personally... I'd make friends with some Assassins.. and have them bloodsuck you, so whenever you zerk, you gain like 3-5% back of whatever you hit.

    AoEing... with Bloodsuck... b:dirty Enough said. b:laugh
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If you PvE a lot, you'll want to get a secondary set of non-zerk axes for when you aren't getting constantly healed.

    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Personally... I'd make friends with some Assassins.. and have them bloodsuck you, so whenever you zerk, you gain like 3-5% back of whatever you hit.

    AoEing... with Bloodsuck... b:dirty Enough said. b:laugh

    If you don't have bloodpaint, don't have either BB or a cleric healing you cause you're tanking, zerk axes suck for PvE, especially on bosses in HH where you tend to auto attack a lot.
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The -5% doesn't really affect you much if you AoE grind w/ good crit %.

    lolwut? Your correlation makes absolutely no sense.
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  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    If you PvE a lot, you'll want to get a secondary set of non-zerk axes for when you aren't getting constantly healed.

    So for higher levels (90+), does this mean going with zerk axes (maybe tt90 gold) is a good idea, since I'd be doing most of most of my 1v1 tanking with fists? Axes will be used mostly for crowd control.

    Also, if I proc, does it effect a group of mobs, or does it have a chance for each one?
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael: Srry. I'm charmed, along with used to potting/sutra so I rarely notice if i lose 5% of the 3.1k HP i got (after restat to 5 vit >.>, plus the vit on cala's).

    Along with that, considering how fast I kill the mob's from the high crits, and fast crits, it's hard to even see when i lose 5% of my low HP :/
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Smobo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So for higher levels (90+), does this mean going with zerk axes (maybe tt90 gold) is a good idea, since I'd be doing most of most of my 1v1 tanking with fists? Axes will be used mostly for crowd control.

    Also, if I proc, does it effect a group of mobs, or does it have a chance for each one?

    Yeah, if your primary tanking weapon is going to be fists, zerk axes are fine. They really tear through your health if you're not primary tanking with zerk, cause it procs enough to be a nuisance.

    Crits don't but zerk does.
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  • BoozeLover - Dreamweaver
    BoozeLover - Dreamweaver Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    AoE zerk is nice, hit 2xDamage to ALL targets in range and as TheDan said befriend with lots of sins, the bloodpaint keeps you alive (also its fun as heck to see your HP jump 50%->90%->50%->100% etc).

    also don't really know zerk Axe in 1on1 because I use fist in those situations.
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  • Runemine - Dreamweaver
    Runemine - Dreamweaver Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Ya Cala Axes are good for 70s get a Thunderbolt Axe also cause no want mad clerics or kill yourself lol and i can tell you with Exp with -5% weps they do it ALOT more then you might think

    That why im happy got rid of it and got me Pan Gu Axe +2 With immac Garnet (Not Gold) for 1mil 300k Dunno if i got ripped off or what but i needed it badly now 5.5k HP non HP gear or Buffed hehe
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I consider Calas more for PvP than PvE, because the -5% for the Zerk effect is something I don't like risking when I grind (Especially AoE grinding). I have a set of TT70 Heraldry Axes for AoE grinding and a set of Claws for tanking. Zerk is.. well.. sexy as hell for PvP, I've one shot a few people my level with a Zerk+Crit. But for PvE it's best if you have a second set of axes so the zerk doesn't drain your HP too much.

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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I don't know why people dislike the -5%....sure it may happen more often then most notice...but as long as you got a charm/cleric/eye on your HP it won't be too hurtful.

    I mean, personally I use my cala's to tank the 50 elite mobs before the final 2 bosses on the T.Born PQ quest. Thnx to those axes nobody can steal arggo from me so i always get in the top 5.
  • _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,458 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Smobo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My BM is getting close to 70, and I was wondering how effective the sacrificial stike special is in PvE. I've heard a lot of things about calimaties, but they tend to be on both extremes of good/bad, I've heard that they do more harm than good, and I've heard that they are so good, getting a decent refined one can only upgraded to a stronger set with the sac strike proc (tt90 gold, nirvana, lucky oht, etc). I can see how insane they can be in PvP (especially with high crit rates), but how good are they in PvE, paticulatirly from an aoeing standpoint.

    well dont afk on a TT boss, my friend did that and because im a veno i couldnt heal him, 10 minutes later he is back and deadb:chuckle
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