Petition against Jones Blessing

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  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I just want them to release a +30 def lvl blessing if they aren't going to do anything about them being stack in alt mailboxes, let alone the main char.

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    An illustration of what should happen if defense blessings could be there. It could be quite interesting, this way.

    But yeah those blessings pretty much destroy the game mechanics.

    - PvP is destroyed, because those who don't have those blessings die faster;
    - Advantage in duels (as if genies did not make them biased already... I won't comment on 5aps fists);
    - Kills the challenge for newbies, as if the game was not simple enough from level 1 to level... let's say 30.
    - Is that the compensation for removing the limited blessing from the dungeon? Bah.

    As for myself, I only used them to grind a bit and since I use many characters, it's not even relevant for me.

    Sure it could help my BM a lot, since lv 6x mobs are a pain in the butt (grinding/questing old style!), but yeah, I still wonder why those blessings were not limited in usage from the start, in terms of contexts of usage, not limited time of a week (it is renewable anyway... smart marketing ploy).

    In all and all, I understand why people are complaining about those blessings and I approve of them disappearing for good, or at worst, introducing def blessings.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    Sins also have Bless, so BMs still cant out-damage them

    I'd like to see a Sin tank 3-3 or a world boss. b:chuckle
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  • RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary
    RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Im pretty sure if that freakish archer can tank a full 3-3 and harpy wraith that a sin can do it...both being LA and all with stuff like bloodpaint.

    And yes this blessing is ridiculous, if it is not just completely removed the game will be unbalanced more than it already was for years...I feel very sorry for all the pure str/dex bms with under 6k hp at level 100 out there LOL.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Im pretty sure if that freakish archer can tank a full 3-3 and harpy wraith that a sin can do it...both being LA and all with stuff like bloodpaint.

    Yeah, if you spend $20k, sure... with that amount of money spent, any class can do pretty much anything. That 'freakish archer' has over 12k hp unbuffed. b:bye
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  • Kitamura - Lost City
    Kitamura - Lost City Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    I'd like to see a Sin tank 3-3 or a world boss. b:chuckle

    Give me a few more days and you will see that :P

    PQ3 boss done solo in 20-21min without BB, just regular EP heals b:pleased
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    Give me a few more days and you will see that :P

    PQ3 boss done solo in 20-21min without BB, just regular EP heals b:pleased

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  • ExELFine - Heavens Tear
    ExELFine - Heavens Tear Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Dancing_eyes - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Clerics: More often than not, you are healing. In the PvP aspect, let's say in TW for example, most often you are healing as that is your job.

    If healing is my only job, would you mind doing my quests/grinding for me? Thank you very much. ***rolleyes***

    p.s.: i'll even let you wear my jones blessing for free.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ExELFine - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If healing is my only job, would you mind doing my quests/grinding for me? Thank you very much. ***rolleyes***

    p.s.: i'll even let you wear my jones blessing for free.

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  • BeingHope - Raging Tide
    BeingHope - Raging Tide Posts: 1,869 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Personally I didn't even get one since why would I want to connect my facebook to PWI like that? b:surrender Its a ridiculous idea in the first place.

    However I'm not sure if I'm "against" it. Its more like I'm just choosing not to use it.

    Though I do have to say it does make a few classes *cough* TB *cough* more OP than ever b:surrender
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  • SneakyStalk - Harshlands
    SneakyStalk - Harshlands Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Dancing_eyes - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Let's do a bit of analysis.

    Cons :

    Venomancers: have the lowest nuking damage of all arcane classes. Only cos their damage is spread out to having a pet as well. Jones' Blessing does not affect the pet.
    Clerics: (...)
    Barbs/BMs: Mostly for cata barbs, will you use +8 DEF, or +30 ATT. Some BMs prefer stay alive blessings rather than attack, as compared to a ranged DD's job, BMs main roles are to aoe stun, and HF.

    You have got to be kidding me right? Pets dont get damage reduction *facepalm*, GOOD clerics have more P.DEF than LA, leave alone wizzies,

    Arcanes and Heavies end up with more Mdef and Pdef than LA users when using the right ornaments. and you can tank a few archer hits while attacking the archer and sending the pet to kill somebody else.. zZz

    Yes wizzies will be slightly more OP, for archers... its kinda unpredictable due to crits and all, for barbs is deadly when facing wizzies, in my case, I wouldnt mind if they take them away, but they solve a few unbalances that are present in the game.
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    To say the least, I am very disappointed from the Jones blessings, might as well put back the blessings you get from instance. At least you don't leave with it on.

    Edit: Infact, attack / defense level bonus should be removed, same as soul force and crit damage
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    +30 def bless is bad idea too


    if DD and barb will have +30def then i dont think DD will be so happy about that.. 30% harder to bypass charm.. not fun
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    DoomKaiser - Harshlands wrote: »
    U guys act like the pwi staff is imcompitant. stop the doubt and stop bitchin about every little change. THE WORLD IS CHANGING deal with it

    You think so? :o
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  • Raybeez - Lost City
    Raybeez - Lost City Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    the gms/devs dont mutha****ing care about wat u want, they will do any ****ing thing they want to because it makes them money hell even if it dont they still will go and take a big hearty **** on the players heads. all the fuking petitioning in the ****** world wont keep them from ****ing us over again and again. so ya ***** all you want...but the chinese **** wipes are too busy getting blow jobs to give a dam about us. every week now the devs have unloaded a pile of **** on our heads, and will continue to do so..
  • Kitamura - Lost City
    Kitamura - Lost City Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Raybeez - Lost City wrote: »
    the gms/devs dont mutha****ing care about wat u want, they will do any ****ing thing they want to because it makes them money hell even if it dont they still will go and take a big hearty **** on the players heads. all the fuking petitioning in the ****** world wont keep them from ****ing us over again and again. so ya ***** all you want...but the chinese **** wipes are too busy getting blow jobs to give a dam about us. every week now the devs have unloaded a pile of **** on our heads, and will continue to do so..

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Dancing_eyes - Raging Tide wrote: »
    .... a properly developed and planned balance between classes...

    This is the point at which you lost all credibility.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Overall, I think alot of us want something done about these blessings.


    Well TW weekend is here....its going to hurt.....b:cry
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  • XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited June 2010
    Take out Jone's and put in a new one that gives +100 attack level. Crit is too unreliable so I would like it the damage it does constantly on.

    b:laugh
  • Kuroji - Harshlands
    Kuroji - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    danedral wrote: »
    For venos it allow veno to heal pet little more because healing pet is based on % of your magic attack.

    For cleric it increase healing because healing spell are based on % of clerics magic attack

    So generally that what you say is not correct and +30 attack is not that big difference so relax a little and go play game don't QQ around.

    And for the record i don't use it because i hate facebook :D

    I really thought someone would address this but apparently not. Attack levels do not affect your actual attack. The atk level bonus comes after the damage is calculated. For every atk level you have over their def level you gain 1% extra damage. Nothing to do with your actual phys/mg atk. Thus it does not affect heals.
  • ShadowDrag - Lost City
    ShadowDrag - Lost City Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Damn u all that want it taken away. Why do i want it kept? I play a mage and a assassin, nuf said b:laugh.
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  • mentalpanic
    mentalpanic Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Why make it so hard..take this Blessing away or put a new Blessing with def in blahhh

    Just make this Blessings from the Teacher 24h, so every1 can chosse whatever he/she thinks its the best, noone can QQ, all are happy....
  • $exyAlexis - Dreamweaver
    $exyAlexis - Dreamweaver Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I like the Blessing b:victory finally some serious dmg on my cleric.
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  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    mentalpanic wrote: »
    Why make it so hard..take this Blessing away or put a new Blessing with def in blahhh

    We already have a blessing with defense, just talk with your teacher to get one.

    Already, you can swap blessings, so you can wear your defense blessing and swap in your jones when it matters. Adding a better defense blessing would sort of ruin game play. Instead, I think that they might add a +20% max hp blessing perhaps with +5 attack levels, to give non-blessing-swappers an advantage.
  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    fulgida wrote: »
    We already have a blessing with defense, just talk with your teacher to get one.

    Already, you can swap blessings, so you can wear your defense blessing and swap in your jones when it matters. Adding a better defense blessing would sort of ruin game play. Instead, I think that they might add a +20% max hp blessing perhaps with +5 attack levels, to give non-blessing-swappers an advantage.

    /facepalm

    Like 8 def lvls are gonna be a great defense vs attack 30 lvls .

    So wow .. just wow . Just when you thought they couldn't **** up this game even more yet they never cease to amaze me .


    I'll probably just gear up bm for farming & make a wiz/archer/psy if nothing is going to be done about this . What's the point of being a semi-tank class like a bm or a tanking class like a barb if you're gonna get 1 shot easily anyway ? ( by archers too now , not just wiziez ) . At least if you're one of the 3 you know you can 1 shot them back ... FROM RANGE .

    World pvp should be pretty balanced yet in TW lol .... just like ppl rerolled bms & archers or restat to claw/fist barb watch them use bms/barbs only for farming & reroll ranged DD classes for TWs .

    /epic fail
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  • Eyebrows - Lost City
    Eyebrows - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Go go go! b:victory

    +12 rank 8 also grade 15 nirvana sin with zerk already has been doing 3-3's and world bosses for days

    makes an little barb start to feel a little outdated

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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    sins dont need that much to be able to tank 3-3 :P
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »
    /facepalm

    Like 8 def lvls are gonna be a great defense vs attack 30 lvls .

    So wow .. just wow . Just when you thought they couldn't **** up this game even more yet they never cease to amaze me .


    I'll probably just gear up bm for farming & make a wiz/archer/psy if nothing is going to be done about this . What's the point of being a semi-tank class like a bm or a tanking class like a barb if you're gonna get 1 shot easily anyway ? ( by archers too now , not just wiziez ) . At least if you're one of the 3 you know you can 1 shot them back ... FROM RANGE .

    World pvp should be pretty balanced yet in TW lol .... just like ppl rerolled bms & archers or restat to claw/fist barb watch them use bms/barbs only for farming & reroll ranged DD classes for TWs .

    /epic fail

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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Eyebrows - Lost City wrote: »
    +12 rank 8 also grade 15 nirvana sin with zerk already has been doing 3-3's and world bosses for days

    makes an little barb start to feel a little outdated

    Like Woody or an old vaccuum.

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  • divinenyte
    divinenyte Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    b:angry i agree; get rid of these dumb **** blessings or give us a counteractive +30 def.lv blessing. you dunderheaded developers are messing things up enough by reproducing those damn event packs you keep bringing back....we barely even get 1 or 2 weeks if we're all lucky enough to go that long without them in the cash shop; give us a damn break from these balance breaking sales and promotions and give us back the perfect balance we use to have before u idiots came out with that damn anniversary pack almost a year ago; *it all began with that*!

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