Bring back Our Stealth!
Credence - Sanctuary
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Whats the point of having an assassin over 89 if our sparks REVEAL WHERE WE ARE?!! PWI Just took the whole meaning away from a PVP Assassin.
I calculated the dmg I do this week and had to deduct the average cause i cant use my sage spark without being seen now! Congrats To you guys, im gonna quit.
why? this week i can stack my Attack level to 77... thats 77% extra dmg(this week event blessing also Frenzy genie skill add 20 atk lv when maxxed, including my chill of the deep skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire genie skill (reduces target defence 35%). Calculated over 3000% dmg increase to my sin! and i cant use my sage spark cause they will see me in pvp.
How about when other classes use their sage buff they lose something! like how about barbs lose their HP buff. or Clerics lose their feather sheild. Or archers get a deduct in power. Or BMs lose their BM buff. Wizards lose their earth, fire, water sheild. Venomancers lose their Bramble.
If ur going to take away an Assassin's Invisibility u take away the meaning of their character.
And if u other classes going to complain going invisible is cheap, u need to check what you need to survive and we will see if u can live without those skills.
Complain to bring back our meaning, Bring back invisibility to all skills and make this game fair again, im tired of getting tossed over the fence, every patch we lose something!
I calculated the dmg I do this week and had to deduct the average cause i cant use my sage spark without being seen now! Congrats To you guys, im gonna quit.
why? this week i can stack my Attack level to 77... thats 77% extra dmg(this week event blessing also Frenzy genie skill add 20 atk lv when maxxed, including my chill of the deep skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire genie skill (reduces target defence 35%). Calculated over 3000% dmg increase to my sin! and i cant use my sage spark cause they will see me in pvp.
How about when other classes use their sage buff they lose something! like how about barbs lose their HP buff. or Clerics lose their feather sheild. Or archers get a deduct in power. Or BMs lose their BM buff. Wizards lose their earth, fire, water sheild. Venomancers lose their Bramble.
If ur going to take away an Assassin's Invisibility u take away the meaning of their character.
And if u other classes going to complain going invisible is cheap, u need to check what you need to survive and we will see if u can live without those skills.
Complain to bring back our meaning, Bring back invisibility to all skills and make this game fair again, im tired of getting tossed over the fence, every patch we lose something!
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Its far from perfect.. its all demolished.
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u can still double spark in stealth0
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If you can't kill something in PvP without stealth you're the most fail player there is... Sins are the singlemost OP class there is at the moment. Oh.. and you can still Sage Spark, just can't do it in stealth. Oh! And you can still single and double spark in stealth (which is just as idiotic as Demon/Sage sparking), so you still get a free increase to damage that nobody can really defend against.
Fail troll is fail, and if this is serious... All I can say is wow... >.>0 -
Zanryu beat me to it about the "if you can't kill without stealth" part.0
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Ok, If you cannot beat me without ur bell, or ur bramble. Then your both sad. Tell me what is an Assassin's Job, i bet your both those people who have lv1 stealth and think its useless? Figuratively you both dont know what you havent been, so please do not judge if you have not and will not be in that area of expertise./showpost.php?p=10036192&postcount=914
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Scathatch - Harshlands wrote: »u can still double spark in stealth
Rather have my 3000% accurately dmg, then 1900%, I might aswell be a Fist BM, lmao./showpost.php?p=10036192&postcount=914
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Rainbowvidel - Sanctuary wrote: »Zanryu beat me to it about the "if you can't kill without stealth" part.
Your in my server so, if you like we can duel./showpost.php?p=10036192&postcount=914
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Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »Your in my server so, if you like we can duel.
Thanks for the offer but I'll pass. If I wanted to fight against other players, I'd be on a PvP server.0 -
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Is someone butt hurt? Never thought i would see an Assassin complain about Stealth. I've been QQ'ing about Stealth since January, i think it's your turn.
And, Most people are demons now, so they can't lose something when sage spark is activated.Please donate money into my mailbox
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Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »If you can't kill something in PvP without stealth you're the most fail player there is... Sins are the singlemost OP class there is at the moment. Oh.. and you can still Sage Spark, just can't do it in stealth. Oh! And you can still single and double spark in stealth (which is just as idiotic as Demon/Sage sparking), so you still get a free increase to damage that nobody can really defend against.
Fail troll is fail, and if this is serious... All I can say is wow... >.>
I have to agree here... spark = light. Stealth = dark. Dark and light don't mix OP, it makes more sense. You people need to think more about PVE, PVP is already easy enough as it is.
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Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »If you can't kill something in PvP without stealth you're the most fail player there is...
I don't care if you consider yourself pro cuz you beat other people in duel/PK maybe because of your uber gear, the thing is, if you were so close minded to not think that you can just Deep Sting and spark instead... no comment
or maybe u don't know what Deep Sting even isFirst 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
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Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »Whats the point of having an assassin over 89 if our sparks REVEAL WHERE WE ARE?!! PWI Just took the whole meaning away from a PVP Assassin.
I calculated the dmg I do this week and had to deduct the average cause i cant use my sage spark without being seen now! Congrats To you guys, im gonna quit.
why? this week i can stack my Attack level to 77... thats 77% extra dmg(this week event blessing also Frenzy genie skill add 20 atk lv when maxxed, including my chill of the deep skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire genie skill (reduces target defence 35%). Calculated over 3000% dmg increase to my sin! and i cant use my sage spark cause they will see me in pvp.
How about when other classes use their sage buff they lose something! like how about barbs lose their HP buff. or Clerics lose their feather sheild. Or archers get a deduct in power. Or BMs lose their BM buff. Wizards lose their earth, fire, water sheild. Venomancers lose their Bramble.
If ur going to take away an Assassin's Invisibility u take away the meaning of their character.
And if u other classes going to complain going invisible is cheap, u need to check what you need to survive and we will see if u can live without those skills.
Complain to bring back our meaning, Bring back invisibility to all skills and make this game fair again, im tired of getting tossed over the fence, every patch we lose something!0 -
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Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »Ok, If you cannot beat me without ur bell, or ur bramble. Then your both sad. Tell me what is an Assassin's Job, i bet your both those people who have lv1 stealth and think its useless? Figuratively you both dont know what you havent been, so please do not judge if you have not and will not be in that area of expertise.
You were spoiled by a poorly implemented stealth system face it. Many games have a stealther job. You know how many skills they allow you to ussually do from stealth? Ussually a stun of some sort & a high dmg backstab. Headhunt pretty much counts as both (and this game is so lazy it didnt even bother with the whole "from behind" aspect). Typically ANY OTHER ability will reveal you. Why? cause you're supposed to be hiding in shadows, not literally magically being invisible. Thats the concept, and the archetype in MMOs with stealthers. So i cant shed a tear for you losing a known OP ability.
p.s. I do have an assasin myself, and even when creating the character, i knew there'd be stealth nerfs at some point. Yeah its a slight b:sad but anyone with any common sense knew there'd be a time to b:bye to doing everything you want in stealth. Personally for balance purposes, i think even more abilities should negate stealth.0 -
Other people, including assassins themselves have stated. "If you can't kill anyone without steath, you suck at the class."
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Maze Steps > Tackling Slash > Triple Spark
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Headhunt > Rising Dragon Strike/Inner Harmony > Triple Spark
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't both of those accomplish the same thing as sparking in stealth (ie, triple spark without having the person run the **** away)? OK, so it's a bit more complicated than walking up to someone in stealth and triple sparking right next to them, so what?
One could start believing that the majority of players in this game are mindless sheep who are unable to think for themselves. Oh, right. b:sweatThis alt has been brought to you by lkurei - Harshlands.
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Agreed, if you rely on stealth sparking, you suck.
Glad they fixed it.
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Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »Whats the point of having an assassin over 89 if our sparks REVEAL WHERE WE ARE?!! PWI Just took the whole meaning away from a PVP Assassin.
I calculated the dmg I do this week and had to deduct the average cause i cant use my sage spark without being seen now! Congrats To you guys, im gonna quit.
why? this week i can stack my Attack level to 77... thats 77% extra dmg(this week event blessing also Frenzy genie skill add 20 atk lv when maxxed, including my chill of the deep skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire genie skill (reduces target defence 35%). Calculated over 3000% dmg increase to my sin! and i cant use my sage spark cause they will see me in pvp.
How about when other classes use their sage buff they lose something! like how about barbs lose their HP buff. or Clerics lose their feather sheild. Or archers get a deduct in power. Or BMs lose their BM buff. Wizards lose their earth, fire, water sheild. Venomancers lose their Bramble.
If ur going to take away an Assassin's Invisibility u take away the meaning of their character.
And if u other classes going to complain going invisible is cheap, u need to check what you need to survive and we will see if u can live without those skills.
Complain to bring back our meaning, Bring back invisibility to all skills and make this game fair again, im tired of getting tossed over the fence, every patch we lose something!
so the whole immune to damage and 25% damage taken decrease from burst and your warp skill is useless? seems to me you can do fine popping out of stealth for it you just need to watch for the person to use immunity skills.
also why should other classes take a hit for using burst? What skills do they have that make them completely immune to damage for extended periods allowing them to get close to another character followed by an instant kill?
I know why not just make assassin stay cloaked even when attacking, that solves all our problems. now people just die and you don't even have to re-cloak.0 -
It's called Stealth, not Invisibility.
All skills and actions should knock you out of stealth. You know, the actions that make Soulburn trigger (basically everything except running or jumping).0 -
credence - Sanctuary wrote: »whats The Point Of Having An Assassin Over 89 If Our Sparks Reveal Where We Are?!! Pwi Just Took The Whole Meaning Away From A Pvp Assassin.
I Calculated The Dmg I Do This Week And Had To Deduct The Average Cause I Cant Use My Sage Spark Without Being Seen Now! Congrats To You Guys, Im Gonna Quit.
Why? This Week I Can Stack My Attack Level To 77... Thats 77% Extra Dmg(this Week Event Blessing Also Frenzy Genie Skill Add 20 Atk Lv When Maxxed, Including My Chill Of The Deep Skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage Spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire Genie Skill (reduces Target Defence 35%). Calculated Over 3000% Dmg Increase To My Sin! And I Cant Use My Sage Spark Cause They Will See Me In Pvp.
How About When Other Classes Use Their Sage Buff They Lose Something! Like How About Barbs Lose Their Hp Buff. Or Clerics Lose Their Feather Sheild. Or Archers Get A Deduct In Power. Or Bms Lose Their Bm Buff. Wizards Lose Their Earth, Fire, Water Sheild. Venomancers Lose Their Bramble.
If Ur Going To Take Away An Assassin's Invisibility U Take Away The Meaning Of Their Character.
And If U Other Classes Going To Complain Going Invisible Is Cheap, U Need To Check What You Need To Survive And We Will See If U Can Live Without Those Skills.
Complain To Bring Back Our Meaning, Bring Back Invisibility To All Skills And Make This Game Fair Again, Im Tired Of Getting Tossed Over The Fence, Every Patch We Lose Something!
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Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »Whats the point of having an assassin over 89 if our sparks REVEAL WHERE WE ARE?!! PWI Just took the whole meaning away from a PVP Assassin.
I calculated the dmg I do this week and had to deduct the average cause i cant use my sage spark without being seen now! Congrats To you guys, im gonna quit.
why? this week i can stack my Attack level to 77... thats 77% extra dmg(this week event blessing also Frenzy genie skill add 20 atk lv when maxxed, including my chill of the deep skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire genie skill (reduces target defence 35%). Calculated over 3000% dmg increase to my sin! and i cant use my sage spark cause they will see me in pvp.
How about when other classes use their sage buff they lose something! like how about barbs lose their HP buff. or Clerics lose their feather sheild. Or archers get a deduct in power. Or BMs lose their BM buff. Wizards lose their earth, fire, water sheild. Venomancers lose their Bramble.
If ur going to take away an Assassin's Invisibility u take away the meaning of their character.
And if u other classes going to complain going invisible is cheap, u need to check what you need to survive and we will see if u can live without those skills.
Complain to bring back our meaning, Bring back invisibility to all skills and make this game fair again, im tired of getting tossed over the fence, every patch we lose something!
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Oh good grief. If you ruin your stealth by tripple sparking then DON'T DO IT. You have stuns and you have decent damage as it is. So it takes you more than one hit, get over it. That has got to be one of the single most whiny posts I've ever seen here other than that guy that posted saying Venomancers needed bosses as pets.
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hehehe..I loled this sin didn't know it's been removed..was camping Vol29 ..when he got kicked from stealth I was like....hi = armageddon + 1 skill..he died O.oAll my Goals in Life Turned to be Offside b:surrender
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as i hav seen most sins rely heavily on stealth, but squestion is if ALL our other skills knowks us out f stealth mode y not spark...ITS A HUGE ****** BURST OF LIGHT, practicality says u would see itb:laugh
aso ur a fail sin end topic go get dropped by a cleric in to atksb:laugh0 -
To this I say, bring back the hidden sparks in tiger form, it was a lot more tricky to catch then than now, since it shows the full blown spark <.< I mean, at least if you were smart you could still see it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] With a .25x multiplier = 423520 regular
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Untamedchaos - Sanctuary wrote: »To this I say, bring back the hidden sparks in tiger form, it was a lot more tricky to catch then than now, since it shows the full blown spark <.< I mean, at least if you were smart you could still see it.
If you can do that I demand Clerics gain to ability to attack you from safe! mwahahahahaha!0 -
Credence - Sanctuary wrote: »Whats the point of having an assassin over 89 if our sparks REVEAL WHERE WE ARE?!! PWI Just took the whole meaning away from a PVP Assassin.
I calculated the dmg I do this week and had to deduct the average cause i cant use my sage spark without being seen now! Congrats To you guys, im gonna quit.
why? this week i can stack my Attack level to 77... thats 77% extra dmg(this week event blessing also Frenzy genie skill add 20 atk lv when maxxed, including my chill of the deep skill) + Weapon Charm (+189) + Sage spark 500% (+dmg) + Tangling Mire genie skill (reduces target defence 35%). Calculated over 3000% dmg increase to my sin! and i cant use my sage spark cause they will see me in pvp.
How about when other classes use their sage buff they lose something! like how about barbs lose their HP buff. or Clerics lose their feather sheild. Or archers get a deduct in power. Or BMs lose their BM buff. Wizards lose their earth, fire, water sheild. Venomancers lose their Bramble.
If ur going to take away an Assassin's Invisibility u take away the meaning of their character.
And if u other classes going to complain going invisible is cheap, u need to check what you need to survive and we will see if u can live without those skills.
Complain to bring back our meaning, Bring back invisibility to all skills and make this game fair again, im tired of getting tossed over the fence, every patch we lose something!
Wait,you actually mean it was FAIR before all those nerf-ings?Would like to see all the FAIRNESS before this.0 -
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