Does a Cleric need anything other than MP?

b:surrender where is strifey when you need him...

FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Unless you intend to wear lvl 5 armors throughout your entire cleric life, then yes - you need 1 str every other level up until 53ish str.

Good luck if you decide to stay with 5 str - might make it to 40 or so if you are lucky or if you are simply a healbot - but you won't be able to solo much wearing starter gear, nor survive aoes and the like in instances.

+1 but you werent harsh enough b:chuckle

It is possible to allow your career dictate your build, and not some guide writer. In all of the formulas I have seen, they have one thing in common: stick to the formula. Not a single one leaves room for evaluation of your situation, circumstances, or performance.

Decide for yourself as you go along if you need more VIT. Are you dying a lot? It is possible for a cleric to spend most of their life squadded. Are you going to be in random squads or dependable ones? How much time are you going to spend soloing? How good is your gear going to be? Is any of your gear going to contribute to VIT (or any of the other attributes)?

Your armor will tell you how much STR you need. Be prepared to provide it, but not before.

For a pure arcane/magic build, DEX has much less relevance. It is magic that gets the work done. All DEX will do for you is increase your crit rate. Important when you are PvPing a lot or you have a nice weapon and want to see big numbers from time to time.

I put all points in MAG until I get another set of armor. I keep track of my STR so I know how much I need to wear it, and otherwise I do nothing. I don't really need to do the 'every other level' thing. As far as VIT goes, I put some in whenever I feel like I need more HP. And I still have 5 DEX, which doesn't bother me. I usually can't DD in a BH with other people my level because of the aggro thing though.

Go with the 5 str all the way >.>
When i put away all my equips i have like 320 def for every element.. When i put it on i have 3k+ for the lowest b:chuckle Makes some difference, doesn't it?

Vit isn't needed at all, though i feel like having more hp so i have vit in my build. Works fine for me, but if you want to get oneshotted by everything except the lvl 1-10 mobs, do your thing b:victory

Depending on if you want to pvp or not you will need at least some vit in order to survive. You will need strength too once you hit 50. So add vit and str every other lvl. And mag after every 2 lvls.

Ah yeah, your right. Just he had only speak from armors, I only had think on then. >_>

Crescentia - Harshlands wrote: »

OMG!



Don't EVER go pure magic. I'm sorry to whoever is pure right now, but yif y
ou'll get one shot everywhere you go! My friend is pure magic and she couldnt' get up because the boss kept aoeing her in fb 69. (and she had a charm). The only way she would have surivive was if she had barb buff.

You know how sad that is? Yes clerics need vit. lol
Espeically if you wanna last longer being hit, or doing tw. Or ANYTHING! you need vit!!

Um... that might be a bit of an over-reaction to a special case, especially if you're talking about the fb boss I'm thinking of. He's one of the hardest aoe hitters in the game, considering his level.

In my experience, some vit is good, but too much vit can detract from healing potential. I capped my vit at 30, but have a lot of vit-adding gear and Hp shards up to wazoo. So if you do go pure magic, just make sure you compensate. A cleric that can't keep herself alive isn't going to keep her team alive.

Sekzkilla - Raging Tide wrote: »

Ok, so I am now lev 17 with following stats:

HP: 10
Mag: 66
Strenght: 16
Dex: 9 (I have no idea why it is 9 since I put nothing in it)

I am having difficulty surviving monsters when I solo. My HP is only 450, and once they get close they kick my butt. What can I do so I don't have to meditate between each monster? An archer has a knockback arrow to push them back, but the cleric does not have this ability. Also, during PVE I still run out of MP all the time having to purchase tubes of MP. What is going on?

Well... If you're getting drained of health really fast, put more in health lol. And I never buy potions. I get so many off drops I think i've only had to buy potions once. And your strength is too high. You dont need that much for your level.

Edit: You say your level 17 with 16 str, but your avatar says level 35... So which is it >.<

Sekzkilla - Raging Tide wrote: »

Ok, so I am now lev 17 with following stats:

HP: 10
Mag: 66
Strenght: 16
Dex: 9 (I have no idea why it is 9 since I put nothing in it)

I am having difficulty surviving monsters when I solo. My HP is only 450, and once they get close they kick my butt. What can I do so I don't have to meditate between each monster? An archer has a knockback arrow to push them back, but the cleric does not have this ability. Also, during PVE I still run out of MP all the time having to purchase tubes of MP. What is going on?

If you're killing melee mobs, generally if you use Cyclone -> Plume Shot -> Cylone -> Run -> Cyclone/Plume til dead or kite with Cyclone til dead you should be okay. Kiting with cyclone will pretty much save you any time if necessary.

If you think you will get hit more than once or twice, throw an IH (Ironheart Blessing) on yourself right before attacking. Otherwise, to save a little mana, use Wellspring Surge between mobs instead.

At your level I wouldn't use Plume Shell too often unless it's a desperate situation (but still level the skill) because it will eat up your mana. Instead try to gauge how much time you have before the mob reaches you and when to start kiting so you don't get hit. You won't need to kite as much later on as you become stronger but it's better to get used to it now.

Get Holy Path when you can and use it to put distance between you and the mob if it gets too close mid-fight. You won't need to do this later on when you're used to the different playstyle compared to archers but it's always handy to have.

Farm crane herb, realgar, salvia root and golden herb when you're able to so you can make Focus Powers and Jade Powders to keep your mana going (for when you hit 30). You should not need to meditate after every mob, but yes a cleric's mana consumption is terrible. It does get better later on; I don't meditate much and never use mp pots on my cleric when solo grinding the mob type of my choice.

If you're not already, you might want to use a protection necklace and belt.

For magic mobs, just attack and either Wellspring or IH when you need it.

For archer mobs, IH yourself once or twice -> Cycone -> Plume -> IH -> Cyclone/Plume til dead, or a variation of that.

Hope this helps. If all else fails: kite with cyclone to give yourself distance and time to IH if needed.

Meditate.

Flickerfae - Sanctuary wrote: »

Um... that might be a bit of an over-reaction to a special case, especially if you're talking about the fb boss I'm thinking of. He's one of the hardest aoe hitters in the game, considering his level.

In my experience, some vit is good, but too much vit can detract from healing potential. I capped my vit at 30, but have a lot of vit-adding gear and Hp shards up to wazoo. So if you do go pure magic, just make sure you compensate. A cleric that can't keep herself alive isn't going to keep her team alive.

not an overreaction your heals are fine with 100+ points of vit at lvl 9x unless the tank has 20k hp+ and no defenses he shouldnt die because of lack of healing power in pve and pvp vit is the most important thing you can have because if you die everyone else dies but if you can tank something like an aoe or some random archer sin bm or something else on you long enough for your squad to kill them while you heal them it goes alot better
litterally you have like 100 less hp healed pure int than vit build if you have a crappy weapon and if you have a good wep its alot more but you shouldnt need the boost anyways

besides most aoes in the game in HH 3-3 3-2 lunar or nirvana usually hit for 5-6k so you need to have good hp and thats if your just pveing in pvp hp is even more important

Please just put things in magic and wear the starter gear forever. Please.