Tactics vs Sins

OlieTheKing - Lost City
OlieTheKing - Lost City Posts: 117 Arc User
edited June 2010 in Archer
It seems our biggest problem for archers and indeed many other classes in pvp is sins especially in 1 vs 1 situations, you have little time to react so what you do is critical.

I would like everyone to add some of there tactics they use vs sins in different situations.
Heres my general response to a sin coming out of stealth and hitting me in 1 vs 1:
Genie skill: expel on them
thunder shock
lightning strike
then if you havent hit a critical
stunning arrow just as they come out of expel to stop them stealthing or stunning you
hopefully it hits
then by this point they should be on low hp
then use your strongest lightning skill to finish them

if you have a spark i would use WOG just after you expel them but usualy i dont.

Share your tactics :D
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  • OlieTheKing - Lost City
    OlieTheKing - Lost City Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Its funny when you try and do something constructive no oen responds but same old QQ and u get 5 pages...
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I don't pk, nor have I rolled a sin or looked into them much. But can you go into stealth if you put a DoT on them like seperated or vicious?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Nikit - Harshlands
    Nikit - Harshlands Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i gennerally use wings of grace in start and then holy path to run back...after tht stun them..then frost arrow...lightining skills and normal shots...but u need a li'l paractice on tht....coz many sins are archers alt so they know how to handle situation when u use wings of grace...b:sad
    [SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=9267511001&dateline=1298980500[/SIGPIC] O Yay! I Killed that nix veno!
  • Suiryujin - Sanctuary
    Suiryujin - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    >.> isnt expel an ally only skill? pretty sure u cannot cast that on enemies otherwise every wiz/psy and their buddy will probbaly be spamming expel all over the place.
    My body is made of swords.
    Iron is my blood, and glass is my heart.
    I have overcome countless battlefields undefeated,
    Without once retreating,
    Nor once being understood.
    Always alone, intoxicated with victory on the hill of swords.
    Therefore, there is no meaning to that life.
    Perhaps this body is nothing but a sword itself.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    >.> isnt expel an ally only skill? pretty sure u cannot cast that on enemies otherwise every wiz/psy and their buddy will probbaly be spamming expel all over the place.

    The only times another player is a set enemy is in TW and duels. For open PK, everyone is considered an ally and can be healed/buffed (expel is considered a buff). That's why the PK protections button was added for clerics and the like.



    And every caster and their grandma already spams Expel on melees.
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    truekossy wrote: »
    The only times another player is a set enemy is in TW and duels. For open PK, everyone is considered an ally and can be healed/buffed (expel is considered a buff). That's why the PK protections button was added for clerics and the like.



    And every caster and their grandma already spams Expel on melees.
    b:chuckle lol yeah I remember when I was pking on cleric & didn't know about the protection, kept buffing, healing the ones I was trying to kill lol
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Nikit - Harshlands wrote: »
    i gennerally use wings of grace in start and then holy path to run back...after tht stun them..then frost arrow...lightining skills and normal shots...but u need a li'l paractice on tht....coz many sins are archers alt so they know how to handle situation when u use wings of grace...b:sad

    Get Elven Alacrity.
    It's WoG + Holy Path all in one.

    Very worth it against sins.
    That's how i react to their popups from stealth.
    When they can't stun you and you're running 15 m/s theres nothing they can do to you.
    Then just stun from afar and normal shot to death. you'd be surprised at how much squishier sins seem to be than even archers.
  • FinalFatex - Harshlands
    FinalFatex - Harshlands Posts: 2,427 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    System -> Exit to desktop (as fast as you can) b:chuckle
    ~~Blood Red since 30~~
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    FinalFatex - Harshlands wrote: »
    System -> Exit to desktop (as fast as you can) b:chuckle

    Oh Get out'a here spy >.<
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Lono_archer - Sanctuary
    Lono_archer - Sanctuary Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Even if you Dot, Sins they still can force stealth. :surrender
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    farm/cash shop high refine gear

    holy path to SZ

    or bleed and die
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Diochan - Heavens Tear
    Diochan - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i'm no pvper but my main is an archer on a pve sever. i've been thinking about this counter for sometime but i've never been able to test it. this counter only works assuming you survive the first attack from the sin so if he one hit you well... no need to explain.


    upon getting hit, cast winged shell, then use holy pasth to get distance. stun then freeze him, then offload arrows on him. the idea here is since you are both low hp low defance classes, and the winged shell effect lasts for like 20 seconds (if it isn't overpowered.) the archer should have some good defense for at least 10 seconds, more than enuf time to kill the sin. now if the sin jumps up to you (which it most likly will) you use you close ranged attacks.
  • Pew_Pew - Raging Tide
    Pew_Pew - Raging Tide Posts: 1,037 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    what about Absolute Domain to get some distance?
  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If you are a robust sage archer, you might try your triple spark and then spam your winged pledge with maybe some wingspan thrown in?
  • Meanpie - Lost City
    Meanpie - Lost City Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    The problem is that when they come out of stealth and hit you...you are stunned. You don't get a chance to do anything. You can't cast Elven Alacrity/Holy Path to get away or winged shell or anything. And they can keep you stunned for way longer than it takes them to kill you. The only thing I can think of that works is using domain to break the stun. Using Badge of Courage means you are probably dead because it doesn't protect you like Domain does. After the Domain Kiting is easy. Use Alacrity if you are on the ground or WoG then drop out of the sky if you are fighting in the air. Then stun and hope for a crit because by then the sin will be doing forced stealth like they always do when they fail to kill you in their first few hits.
  • DrkLordZ - Sanctuary
    DrkLordZ - Sanctuary Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I fly, so damage is reduced. immobalize them, fly down and nuke.
    Please donate money into my mailbox :)

    I'm poor as heck.
  • Alkaia - Harshlands
    Alkaia - Harshlands Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    The funny thing is that even if you stun them, they cant tele stun you.
    Yes yes they can tele stun while they stuned.
    So basically you only chance (if you didnt crit on them while trying to stun) is to triple spark and use claws/fist. If you got enough interval it might work.
    Cause kitting with sins its kinda hard since they can move while they stunned..

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