Claw on Kolwin!
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in TT a pet doesn't have to hit fast... >.<" it has to have good DPS.level 90 Varicose Scorpion: 3336x1.3=4336@0.6=2601
level 90 Kowlin: 2218x1.3=2883@0.8=2306
It's pretty clear to me which pet has better DPS.
oke now look at that. Scorpion hits less fast. But has a DPS of 2601
kowlin hits faster but has a DPS of 2306
2601 - 2306 = 295
that means a scorpion has 295 more DPS even though it hits slower.
say you put that pet for 5 minutes on a TT boss. that is:
5 x 60sec = 300 seconds.
300 x 2306 = 691,800 damage for the kowlin.
300 x 2601 = 780,300 for the scorpion.
780,300 - 691800 = 88,500
that is almost 90k difference. over only 5 minutes.
sure you might have used that kowlin for 30 lvls. but that doesn't mean it's stronger then a different pet of it's lvl.
the one who is only looking in 'ur self mind' is you. you don't try to think the other way. And you say 'i keep love kolwin for that he is' well.. I assume you mean: I keep loving my kowlin for what he is. and if you do. then you don't have to put claw on it. cause you love it the way it is? right?
oh and I can't believe you made me use maths when I don't have school >.<"[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks Silvychar for the awesome sig
Characters:
waterfal - lvl 90 demon ferrari veno
Hazumi_chan - lvl 9x sage seeker0 -
Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »in TT a pet doesn't have to hit fast... >.<" it has to have good DPS.
oke now look at that. Scorpion hits less fast. But has a DPS of 2601
kowlin hits faster but has a DPS of 2306
2601 - 2306 = 295
that means a scorpion has 295 more DPS even though it hits slower.
say you put that pet for 5 minutes on a TT boss. that is:
5 x 60sec = 300 seconds.
300 x 2306 = 691,800 damage for the kowlin.
300 x 2601 = 780,300 for the scorpion.
780,300 - 691800 = 88,500
that is almost 90k difference. over only 5 minutes.
sure you might have used that kowlin for 30 lvls. but that doesn't mean it's stronger then a different pet of it's lvl.
the one who is only looking in 'ur self mind' is you. you don't try to think the other way. And you say 'i keep love kolwin for that he is' well.. I assume you mean: I keep loving my kowlin for what he is. and if you do. then you don't have to put claw on it. cause you love it the way it is? right?
oh and I can't believe you made me use maths when I don't have school >.<"
yeha 200 more dg is not that much diff!..i look for pets w hige atk rate..xD and i belive that a nice looking pet w claw + flash ream . i love my kitty..its worth as a DD pet.. i wil put claw on it. w i get money to lvl claw![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL0 -
and DW is on top of both pets, unless you need scorpion for 2 shots mobs that run or something like that0
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and DW is on top of both pets, unless you need scorpion for 2 shots mobs that run or something like that
so.. i did't liek DW he is slow..and got bad skils..
not gona lie more??? HAHAHAHHAHAA[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL0 -
Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »yeha 200 more dg is not that much diff!..i look for pets w hige atk rate..xD and i belive that a nice looking pet w claw + flash ream . i love my kitty..its worth as a DD pet.. i wil put claw on it. w i get money to lvl claw!
did you even read my complete post?
on a time span of 5 minutes it does alomst 90k more damage!
that's 90.000 more damage!
and that's only of 5 minutes >.<" can u imagine! DX in a timespan of 10 minutes that's almost 180k!
DX
you ignorant selfish self centered annoying troll DX you're getting me pissed DX just read the whole post!
for god sake! I thought I was stubborn using an adalwolf as tank pet a long time! but at least I listened to people! even though I didn't like it. and held on to it for a long.. long time. I at least knew they were right. And I could live with it! You are not stubborn!
you are like a lil kid. YOU want to be right. and you don't care what others say. even if they are right! you just wanna hear: ooh what a great idea! why haven't I tried that earlier!? well that's because it's a stupid idea and a waste! why are you even asking what the community think? you don't care anyway. you just wanna tell us that you aquired 2 claw scrolls and that u wanna waste them.
in the meantime the community tries to protect you from your own stupidness, and give you good suggestions. in return for that you yell at people for not saying that it's a great idea, and throw good advice straight out of the window!
an honest awnser is not what you want. So you know what!
[sarcasm] What a great idea! go ahead! it'll be the best pet ever! people will ask you where you got that great DPS pet and how they can aquire one themselves! People will be terrified if they see your kowlin coming and run away in fear! ofc your kowlin is so fast it'll be in front of their holy path in no time at all! soon as it uses flesh ream all enemy's drop dead at their feet! everyone will shidder in fear when you leave safe zone with your kowlin! go ahead! put claw on it! and all of the veno community will worship your kowlin. *facepalm * [/sarcasm]
happy now?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks Silvychar for the awesome sig
Characters:
waterfal - lvl 90 demon ferrari veno
Hazumi_chan - lvl 9x sage seeker0 -
CAN SOMEONE ON HARSHLANDS PLEASE START FARMING DRAGON TEMPLE ON TUESDAY NIGHTS? THIS MORON IS TAKING MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKETS. If this thread is saying anything to you beside more people on HL need to farm DT, you're reading it the wrong way b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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This thread tells me more people on Harshlands need to camp Dragon Temple and KoS ignorant venos who believe that putting claw on a Kowlin is a worthwhile investment.0
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HAHAHAHAHHA DRAMAQUEENNN HAHAHAHHAHAHAH LOL..
CLAW is a skils..noting else..woth to waste Kolwin can't run 0.15m/sec not either kil all in 1 hit..HE IS NOT PVP PET
im gona use for TT bOSSES LOOl not pvp, i got pk PET![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL0 -
Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »
im gona use im for TT bOSSES
Lol, tell me how that goes. b:chuckle0 -
Feruta - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lol, tell me how that goes. b:chuckle
i can't care ABOUT grama on this side LOL i must write fast![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL0 -
Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »i can't care ABOUT grama on this side LOL i must write fast!
How quaint. You're planing to make as large a fool of yourself in as short a time possible to provide the Venomancer forums with the most laughter possible. That's quite thoughtful of you. b:thanks0 -
Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »i can't care ABOUT grama on this side LOL i must write fast!
I wasn't critiquing your grammar.
No, no, I was critiquing your choice to use your kowlin for tanking TT bosses.
Maybe 1-1 Chien in solo mode. XD0 -
How quaint. You're planing to make as large a fool of yourself in as short a time possible to provide the Venomancer forums with the most laughter possible. That's quite thoughtful of you. b:thanks
LOL DON*T u get it..ITS NOT PROVE::I ASK ABOUT THA STATS PET WIL MAY HAVE W CLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANNA KNOW..but u ppl think its gona use as PK PET..
and say it sux..
so its rigth to meh go around and say ur BEST pet sux" CUZ I DON*T LIKE IT"
NO ITS DD PET , LOL NOT TANK ROLMAOO READ THE NEXT IN THE START HAHAH WTF[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL0 -
We've already told you the results, you ignorant buffoon.
We've also all made it clear that there are many pets that would do the whole "DD pet" thing better than your Kowlin.
But please, do continue to make yourself look like the moron you are. i'd love to see that Kowlin of yours staying alive on any TT boss that has an AoE, spawns extra mobs, or has random aggro. b:chuckle0 -
This is becoming ridiculous.
If you are going to complain and yell about everything anyone has to say, then why make this thread at all? Congratulations, you like a specific pet, so use it if you want.
If you're so determined to use the kowlin, then go put claw on it, raise it to level 90, and answer your own question. What is the point of being here and doing this when that's precisely what you say you're going to do anyway?
I love kowlins. I have a kowlin. I can enjoy it while also being able to admit that in terms of stats it is a lousy pet. Would I chuck a legendary skill on it for laughs, I doubt it, but if my money was infinite then who knows.
My point is this, you're going to do what you want to do. So stop arguing about this stupid nonsense and go do it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The family is a haven in a heartless world.
Once a Guardian, Always a Guardian. Element: Fire.0 -
Hisuna - Sanctuary wrote: »This is becoming ridiculous.
If you are going to complain and yell about everything anyone has to say, then why make this thread at all? Congratulations, you like a specific pet, so use it if you want.
If you're so determined to use the kowlin, then go put claw on it, raise it to level 90, and answer your own question. What is the point of being here and doing this when that's precisely what you say you're going to do anyway?
I love kowlins. I have a kowlin. I can enjoy it while also being able to admit that in terms of stats it is a lousy pet. Would I chuck a legendary skill on it for laughs, I doubt it, but if my money was infinite then who knows.
My point is this, you're going to do what you want to do. So stop arguing about this stupid nonsense and go do it.
i said im going for it..but i just what info..about how much better kolwin ahd been w claw!..i haven't got answer yet! only i get back is shiirt..
TNX alot for fook up my threads lika that..all others DO! ALWAYS w i ask...it wil be messed up...there was 1 prson how start it then all other join her/him..
TNX FOR BE FOOKING IDOOT TO OTHERS![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL0 -
The truth hurts.I was early taught to work as well as play,
My life has been one long, happy holiday;
Full of work and full of play-
I dropped the worry on the way-
And God was good to me everyday.0 -
Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »i said im going for it..but i just what info..about how much better kolwin ahd been w claw!..i haven't got answer yet! only i get back is shiirt..
TNX alot for fook up my threads lika that..all others DO! ALWAYS w i ask...it wil be messed up...there was 1 prson how start it then all other join her/him..
TNX FOR BE FOOKING IDOOT TO OTHERS!
Nobody has your answer because nobody has bothered to do it, for the reasons explained previously. So like I said, get the answer yourself if you're so determined to do it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The family is a haven in a heartless world.
Once a Guardian, Always a Guardian. Element: Fire.0 -
Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »i said im going for it..but i just what info..about how much better kolwin ahd been w claw!..i haven't got answer yet! only i get back is shiirt..
TNX alot for fook up my threads lika that..all others DO! ALWAYS w i ask...it wil be messed up...there was 1 prson how start it then all other join her/him..
TNX FOR BE FOOKING IDOOT TO OTHERS!Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »oke now look at that. Scorpion hits less fast. But has a DPS of 2601
kowlin hits faster but has a DPS of 2306
2601 - 2306 = 295
that means a scorpion has 295 more DPS even though it hits slower.
say you put that pet for 5 minutes on a TT boss. that is:
5 x 60sec = 300 seconds.
300 x 2306 = 691,800 damage for the kowlin.
300 x 2601 = 780,300 for the scorpion.
780,300 - 691800 = 88,500
that is almost 90k difference. over only 5 minutes.
sure you might have used that kowlin for 30 lvls. but that doesn't mean it's stronger then a different pet of it's lvl.Level 90 Scorpion: 3336 (base phys attack) x 1.3 (boost from claw) = 4336 (aka a 1k gain from 30%)
Level 90 Kowlin: 2218 (base phys attack) x 1.3 (boost from claw) = 2883 (aka not even a 700 point gain from the 30%)
Dear Aniella,
You are an idiot. We've already answered your question multiple times while showing just why a Kowlin would suck as a DD pet.
Sincerely, everyone with an IQ above that of a nail.0 -
you want to know how much better kowlin will be with claw?
here's how you find out
take its current attack and multiply by 1.3 (assuming you upgrade it to level 5)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
nvm.......0
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Mii Kolwin hda Calw.. ti rum to hurc wid rfltc und dy soo i slel.
Kolwin Sux!Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
you know, i feel sorry for folks like you. this game has so much to offer, on so many levels(other than the obvious 'leveling' we do, that is!^_^), that for someone like you, who cannot see or appreciate the visual beauty of this game is a sad thing to see. i have golems that are strong, and reliable for tough bosses, i have pets of lesser strength but more finesse, and i have pets that are weak, but just fun to have, though they do occasionally save the day in some instances.
someone like you, who spurns any pet but the most powerful, is someone who goes about handling all situations with the equivalent of a cannon, when perhaps less force is necessary. and not all players are in a mad rush to hit the highest level. some of us are enjoying the game experience itself, which includes, for venos, getting to play with pets that you have seen others with, and have looked forward to having yourself.
i wouldnt worry about you having to be around me and my kowlin and other pets, since i dont do pickup squads with people i dont know. i dont care to be killed because of a person who overestimates themselves as a tank, and gets us all killed, so i stick to people i know and trust, and who know i use the right pet for the right moment.When you're level 100 and stealing aggro on bosses from a barb that's level 102, you might check out their gear. Suppose you noticed they were using their FB19 reward weapon, and when asked they reply " it's just so beautiful". Imagine you're doing BH Metal and normally you have no problem tanking 5 mobs at a time with BB up. What if one time you start dying left and right only to notice the Cleric is using a Lv19 weapon because it's just so beautiful. Not many like rolling with these kinds of idiots. Do you think the Cleric likes paying for extra mana because you prefer beauty to fast killing? Do you think the Barb likes paying for more armor repairs because you want to look great? Do you think the other DDs like wasting time when they could be missing opportunities because of you?
Kowlin
Luring:
Speed -fail
Survivability -fail
Range -fail
tanking
DPS -fail
Survivability -fail
Aggro -fail
DD'ing
DPS -fail
Range -fail
Survivability -fail
Kowlin is a solid fail. Er sorry Kolwin. Maybe get off game and watch nature channel or go outside if you want to see real beauty.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
(and hugs to Flauschkatze for the sig!)
"Thanks for writing me-- it's always great to hear from a vet.
-FrankieRaye"
Playing here since '08b:heart0 -
Fox, did you not read the thread?I was early taught to work as well as play,
My life has been one long, happy holiday;
Full of work and full of play-
I dropped the worry on the way-
And God was good to me everyday.0 -
maybe coz those players with herc know beter what they are doing? that pet offer more game experience, things that other venos just think about.
some players will just get pissed off coz they dont have all day to play just to see someone luring with bad pets or w/e they do all day in a instance... probably admiring a pet tail or the ceiling of a cave0 -
yes, i was responding to Tweak, not the OP. sorry.LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »Fox, did you not read the thread?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
(and hugs to Flauschkatze for the sig!)
"Thanks for writing me-- it's always great to hear from a vet.
-FrankieRaye"
Playing here since '08b:heart0 -
Im not gonna bother explaining.I was early taught to work as well as play,
My life has been one long, happy holiday;
Full of work and full of play-
I dropped the worry on the way-
And God was good to me everyday.0 -
FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »yes, i was responding to Tweak, not the OP. sorry.
tis iis bout kolwins NOT tweek! unterstud ideot! b:chuckleBe kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
and i was responding to your condemnation of them. no, a kowlin is a pet to be used for certain jobs, not as a 'jack of all trades pet'. i am a player who enjoys the fantasy life here of being a veno, and having pets impossible IRL. so your suggestion of watching the Animal Channel is a bad one....no kowlins there! ^_^tis iis bout kolwins NOT tweek! unterstud ideot! b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
(and hugs to Flauschkatze for the sig!)
"Thanks for writing me-- it's always great to hear from a vet.
-FrankieRaye"
Playing here since '08b:heart0 -
Umm... Yeah. Well first of all I think that my english is quite OK but there might be some mistakes due to the fact that it isn't my mother tongue.
Anyway...
I am playing on PW-MS and got Werefox (or Veno if u want to call it this way) lvl 90 atm. Few things I have to say:
1) Aniella you are dumbest person I have ever seen. Sorry to say that but that's true. How old are you? -.-'
2) We don't have nix/herc on MS. So we have to stick to lvl 17 golem and lvl 8 bee there (idk the name's on PWI so I will call them this way). And getting ANY rare skill here is nightmare, only few (mayby 4?) ppl got pets with full skillsets (i.e. bee with doodoo, blessing or golem with hp/pdef/mdef buffs). And I have NEVER even seen any of those skills for sale.
3) Kowlin (guess it is AquaBarrier Dhrama) is terrible. I liked him too when I was lvl ~60-65 cuz it looks so damn cool, but... It sucks. It got terrible stats and putting claw on it is even more terrible. The point of PvP pet is to **** with Ripping Bite (Flesh Realm, right?) and then mayby use some other damage skill or some utility skill to finish this poor Wizzy or Cleric. And to get bleed that will REALLY **** them you must get pet with HIGH attack stat - fak attack speed it is damn useless.
My two cents.
~Falathiel, WF from Wodan PW-MS0
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