DoT DoD or gems ???

Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver
Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver Posts: 25 Arc User
edited June 2010 in General Discussion
I see these Diamond of Tigers and Diamond of Dragon and my main 88 Barb is almost ready for new armor. Are they better than the gems ? At least a garnet gem tells me how much damage or defense it adds. Im confused on the +1 i guess. Is it alot more? It should be but in PWI you never know.
Thanks in advance.
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  • Xorand - Sanctuary
    Xorand - Sanctuary Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    +1 is basically adding 1% either to your attack (Diamond of Tiger) or 1% to your defense (Diamond of Dragon).

    So, say you have physical attack: 1000; by adding 1 Diamond of Tiger, your physical attack is 101% x 1000 = 1,001.

    More info can be read here:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=262122&page=3
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=688772
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Xorand - Sanctuary wrote: »
    +1 is basically adding 1% either to your attack (Diamond of Tiger) or 1% to your defense (Diamond of Dragon).

    So, say you have physical attack: 1000; by adding 1 Diamond of Tiger, your physical attack is 101% x 1000 = 1,010.

    More info can be read here:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=262122&page=3
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=688772

    Edited to right amount.
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  • Xorand - Sanctuary
    Xorand - Sanctuary Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Ty Telarith b:thanks
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It's not increasing damage on status screen, but increasing damage after reduced by defense.
    Or the opposite for diamond of dragon.

    Someone with 3 DoTiger deal 900 damage.
    The target has defense to reduce damage by 40% (only receive 540 damage)
    But because the damage dealer has 3 DoTiger the damage boosted by 3%
    In the end target receive 556,2 damage.

    (the opposite on DoDragon, it reduce damage that already reduced by defense)

    Now try to get warsoul weapon for +50 atk lv. b:surrender Good luck.
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  • Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver
    Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Guess im still confused. So does 2 Diamond of Tiger do more damage in my axes or 2 Perfect Garnets more damage. Should be the Diamond of Tigers right would only make sense.
  • Lady_Seolfor - Dreamweaver
    Lady_Seolfor - Dreamweaver Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Go for gems or rather shards. Shards beeing cheaper, and you may wish to use the money you save on better refines. Or other things.

    DoD's are good for endgame gear i think.
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Guess im still confused. So does 2 Diamond of Tiger do more damage in my axes or 2 Perfect Garnets more damage. Should be the Diamond of Tigers right would only make sense.

    Basically, unless you're planning to put a lot of DoTs into your armors, like, say, 24 of them, you're better off with Garnets.
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  • Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver
    Fuzzyniko - Dreamweaver Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    kk ty all for replys
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    In every case always garnets / sapphires in your weapon will add more damage than Attack Level +1 gems.


    If doesnt matter if it is NPC gear or a +12 Warsoul Bow. Never put Diamond of Tigers in weapons. Putting it in armor is interesting but it is a total waste to put it in your weapon.
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  • Bludd - Harshlands
    Bludd - Harshlands Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    In every case always garnets / sapphires in your weapon will add more damage than Attack Level +1 gems.


    If doesnt matter if it is NPC gear or a +12 Warsoul Bow.
    Wow. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. A +12 Warsoul Bow deals enough damage that 2% is bigger than even G12 p.attack stones.
    Unless you are some sort of stupid vit build. Then I guess it might not.
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Bludd - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wow. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. A +12 Warsoul Bow deals enough damage that 2% is bigger than even G12 p.attack stones.
    Unless you are some sort of stupid vit build. Then I guess it might not.

    You're forgetting that without the +50 Attack Level, most Warsouls aren't exactly ungodly. Also, exactly because of the +50 Attack Level, adding Attack Level shards would be a bad choice, since the effect is percentage based and is therefore diminished a lot due to the +50 attack level. In fact, that +2 Attack Levels is diminished to about 1.3% more damage.
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Bludd - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wow. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. A +12 Warsoul Bow deals enough damage that 2% is bigger than even G12 p.attack stones.
    Unless you are some sort of stupid vit build. Then I guess it might not.

    Why don't you try doing the math before spewing misinformation. Two G12 garnets on a +12 warsoul bow increase damage by about 3.2%. This is true regardless of build. Last I checked, 3.2% > 2%.

    Edit: forgot about factoring in the +50 Att level bonus.

    This makes Att stones even worse as the bonus damage from the Garnets is increased by the +50 Att level while the + Att stones are not.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Bludd - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wow. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. A +12 Warsoul Bow deals enough damage that 2% is bigger than even G12 p.attack stones.
    Unless you are some sort of stupid vit build. Then I guess it might not.

    Garnets/sapphires become part of your base weapon damage that is modified by either str, dex or mag. DoD/DoT/JoSD do not receive this bonus. Meaning, you are better off putting a higher grade garnet (for phys classes) or sapphire (for mag classes) in your weapon than you are putting attack or defense shards. You put the DoT/DoD/JoSD into armor, not weapons. Durr.
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