Archer build

MissxCleric - Sanctuary
MissxCleric - Sanctuary Posts: 134 Arc User
edited June 2010 in Archer
Hi hi,

I wanna make an Archer that isn't very squishy, but hits much.
Now I was wondering if 2 str, 1 vit, 7 dex every 2 lvls a good build is, so if you can tell me, please?
Ty!
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  • GuinevirX - Heavens Tear
    GuinevirX - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    not too bad , and it will help u decrease some damage but still u will be squishy, all the VIT of the world won't change that ..... be sure to stop adding vit when it reaches 25-30 or else ull notice some dmg reductions

    if u want my full opinion now, go PURE DEX (1 STR 4 DEX every lvl) and later add some HP gems at ur armor and low refine , also at 60+ with good weapon most mobs wont hit u as ull finish them with 5-6 shots

    To sum up , play the way u like , the purpose is fun b:victoryb:victory
    Proud Male Venomancer <
    It's a game ...................... Face it b:laughb:laughb:laugh
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Well I would say go pure Dex (4 DEX 1 STR every level) since vit doesnt really help a lot for archers. Archers get 13 hp for every point in VIT. So lets say you hit 100, that would give you a total of 50 vit points according to your build which amounts to a total of 650 hp at the cost of 50 dex which would amount to 2% crit or alternatively enough STR for you to use HP helms.

    IMO, that 1 VIT per two levels doesnt make much of a difference really to make you a non-squishy class. So just increase your damage as much as possible so that your target dies faster.
  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Also, in regards to HP helms, statting extra strength for the helmet alone actually gives less extra HP than just putting those points into vit. It's not until you reach near-endgame and start considering a fist/bow hybrid build that extra strength becomes useful.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I did 7-2-1. I liked it.

    You will deal sufficient damage for PvE purposes, and the extra HP is noticeable.
  • hopaqo
    hopaqo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Vit is complete waste and will waste valueble Dex point. Not much difference you will have problems till you're maybe 35/40, then you have enough range, dmg and knockback to deal with any problems. Eventually nothing will touch you and be dead even before it touches you.
    b:laugh

    Trust me stick with it yes it is difficult at earlier levels but archers are late bloomers. The best advise I can give grind 5 level higher than the mobs you're killing, that'll also give you much needed money and mats. Get your apothecary research up so you can make potions.

    Trust me don't waste any valueble points on vit its a complete waste. b:victory
  • Hario - Lost City
    Hario - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If you're worried about staying alive you could always leave some vit in and then restat when u get to 7x-8x. But yea...dex is the most important thing for an archer, squeeze in as many points in dex as possible. Pure dex is the only way to go for archers, you can make up for the hp with refines and hp shards.
  • lupulsur
    lupulsur Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    what increase when add 1 dex point?....except critical every 20 point?
  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Nahh. don't listen to these guys. Put all your points in magic for some sweet regen.

    Also, be sure to always get in melee range to attack.

    And shard with Sapphire shards.

    ...b:shutup
    On indefinite hiatus :3
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    lupulsur wrote: »
    what increase when add 1 dex point?....except critical every 20 point?

    Ranged physical damage, accuracy, evasion.
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Nahh. don't listen to these guys. Put all your points in magic for some sweet regen.

    Also, be sure to always get in melee range to attack.

    And shard with Sapphire shards.

    ...b:shutup

    you're so stupid.......


    OBVIOUSLY you have to shard with Turquoise Shards for the extra Mana.
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ranged physical damage, accuracy, evasion.

    To be more precise, it's 8 accuracy and 6 evasion per dex point
    The amount of damage you get actually depends on the weapon and on how much dex you have. it's some sort of multiplier.

    Edit: Go pure dex. The extra vit isn't worth the damage, evasion, and accuracy loss.
  • ignatas22
    ignatas22 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    soon i will get 500 dex - will see if its max you can get.. or any1 knows already? :) i wonder whats better dex +8 vit +8 ring or daily event ring with +80hp and +3crit.. wanna have both but also have misty forest with 50% accuracy - wich is vital in pk ;/ cant make up my mind what to use..
    build - ofc pure dex, mobs cant even reach you if you know how to play
  • Relakss - Harshlands
    Relakss - Harshlands Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    personaly i like the fist archer build i wanna be able to use tt100 fists endgame i'll prob go for r8 bow.
    ofc its expensive but with fist archer build i can easily solo tt runs to make money.

    this is my suggestion on rings and endgame gear:

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b7d29b918ab750f6

    when having tt100 fists on:

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=ba10d5dca7cd095b

    thats 5 sec non sparked.

    ofc i know when u dont cash shop it is really hard to get sucks i know but you'll be OP when having it all XDb:chuckle
  • Relakss - Harshlands
    Relakss - Harshlands Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ignatas22 wrote: »
    soon i will get 500 dex - will see if its max you can get.. or any1 knows already? :) i wonder whats better dex +8 vit +8 ring or daily event ring with +80hp and +3crit.. wanna have both but also have misty forest with 50% accuracy - wich is vital in pk ;/ cant make up my mind what to use..
    build - ofc pure dex, mobs cant even reach you if you know how to play

    sign of frost is better then school teacher ring.But when poor a good option together with a mag ring
  • hopaqo
    hopaqo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Relakss - Harshlands wrote: »
    personaly i like the fist archer build i wanna be able to use tt100 fists endgame i'll prob go for r8 bow.
    ofc its expensive but with fist archer build i can easily solo tt runs to make money.

    this is my suggestion on rings and endgame gear:

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b7d29b918ab750f6

    when having tt100 fists on:

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=ba10d5dca7cd095b

    thats 5 sec non sparked.

    ofc i know when u dont cash shop it is really hard to get sucks i know but you'll be OP when having it all XDb:chuckle


    There is NO such thing as Fist archer, just a crappy version of BMs.

    No Bow = No Archer
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    hopaqo wrote: »
    There is NO such thing as Fist archer, just a crappy version of BMs.

    No Bow = No Archer

    i will always go pure dex. i'll never add extra str just to equip certain fists, so in that, i agree with you...

    However, i hate to tell you that when archers have R8, they can reach 5 atks per sec unsparked and that's something that no other class (not even BMs) can do. It's great for PvE (bosses) so you can solo TT's and lots of instances to gain lots of coins.

    Whether you like it or not, it's there and it works.

    Will I ever do that? Nope. The extra str required to equip Deicides actually brings my bow p attack down by 1 - 1.5k. I don't plan on farming solo TT or anything of that sort so I'll be happy using some Annihalator of Souls fists, which have str requirements any 9x archer will meet (:
  • Ignathas - Sanctuary
    Ignathas - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    if i have str added by cape/tome etc. it enables me to use fists? so far treid only annihilators and apart from looking good they are useless..
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Ignathas - Sanctuary wrote: »
    if i have str added by cape/tome etc. it enables me to use fists? so far treid only annihilators and apart from looking good they are useless..

    You would need to change your build in order to use Fists / Claws, allocating more points into Strength. This is not worth doing until you are 90+.

    There are a few select Fists / Claws that make it worth it for specific purposes. Annihilator of Souls is not one of them.
  • Crematory - Lost City
    Crematory - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Well guys listen here, Archers are bored of Bows, Xbows, Slingshots, so they try fists...Ijs let them try out, not a big thingie, the problem is that archers have more damage with Bows with +Dex, BM's get more damage with a lot of things with +STR.Its normal that a high lvl archer beats uy with fists if u are low lvl...But at bosses they must be normal archers, the fist play thingie is ****, and its for rich daddies children who are bored.What woll be the next thing?! Magic BM's who kill with magic swords?! same like fist archer.
  • Crematory - Lost City
    Crematory - Lost City Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    That thing with saphire shards is a big bunch of bla bla. U need citrines, refines and thats all, If u have money or friends u can make it if not no...Very simple. Some guys are using phys def shards, I dont blame em, I just said my opinion
  • Archalt - Sanctuary
    Archalt - Sanctuary Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    No offence, but wasting points on vit is a stupid idea. Let's say you have more hp but less attack power (less dex). If you were full dex, you could kill a monster before it could reach you. But if you waste points on vit, the monster will reach you because you cannot kill it fast enough due to lower damage = you lose HP. What's better? Full dex, of course. Get vit on gear. Citrines, upgrades help you. My gear gives me over 1600 HP and it is more than enough to survive everything in PVE. I don't even remember when was the last time when my Archer died... seriously, if you have the right skills, right build (4dex 1str / lvl) and you know how to play the Archer, you won't have a problem surviving PVE.
    ◄ Alt for posting. | PVE Sage Archer and happy with it.
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Crematory - Lost City wrote: »
    That thing with saphire shards is a big bunch of bla bla. U need citrines, refines and thats all, If u have money or friends u can make it if not no...Very simple. Some guys are using phys def shards, I dont blame em, I just said my opinion

    no shizz sherlocke
    I assume you don't know what sarcasm is?
  • PinkArrow - Heavens Tear
    PinkArrow - Heavens Tear Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    No, no. There is no build for archer besides 4dex 1str. Period.

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