What are the requirements for soloing FB19?

Verminatrix - Raging Tide wrote: »

Thanx for the info. I'll go give it a try now. Just to be sure, I'll try to tag along a Barbarian.

Which means either you'll be tanking or he will be. If he does, then there's nothing you can do to help. If you do, it's the other way.

I read somewhere that the level for solo should be close to mid-30s. Even though I am in early 30s, my equipment average is close to 20. I don't buy unless its a quest item.

The ability to solo anything only depends on one thing: can the boss damage your pet faster than you can heal it? You get a healing upgrade at lvl 33, which means your healing will improve. Currently, lvl 33 would be MY choice of doing FB19, if I had to do it again. For myself, I've done it late 30s; I would only go lower than 33 on the next-after-the-next attempt if the try at 33 turns out to be "too easy".

- Can I also solo other races' FB19 dungeons?

If you can solo Untamed you should be able to solo the others as well. I don't think there's much of a difference. I've done my first "other" FB in my 40s, so I can't speak from personal experience. Rarely get to do these.

[/QUOTE]- What are the rewards?[/QUOTE]

An extremely nice wand that I used well into the 40s (I just use what I find/get --- so there might be better ones from boss drops, the cash shop or whatever). For doing other FBs --- the "Call of Duty" quest has no item rewards, "just" experience.

Soloing a boss always means you're considerably higher level than he is. So, no drops.

EDIT: Almost no drops. I got some money from my FB19 boss, and a potion from my FB29 boss. Yeah!

Wouldn't have mattered if you'd had the tablet of call to duty... you can only use it as squad leader, which means you have to be in a squad in the first place.

*Cough* I made an alt veno sometime ago to duel razorjaw at lv23. I used the glacial walker, pure arcane build, stash magic sword with a common saphire from a quest, teached my genie lv1 earthquake, kited(but I wasn't great at that), wined the instance so it woul be faster, and my sis watched me with her baby cleric(at the time). I took screenshot, but they're not on this computer.

You may be able to kite and most likely will be able to solo fb 19 at lvl 34. It's not too hard to be honest. To make a pet run the specific direction you want like zig-zagging? I do not believe that is possible. I have only seen pets run in straight lines and if there is something in the way, they try to find their way around it.

Genies are never useless. They may seem so during low levels because they are hardly used but you learn to use them and love them as you grow levels.

Verminatrix - Raging Tide wrote: »

I suppose I am just not as good in this game as you are. I can't even imagine going in there at level 23.

Yeah, I wouldn't try that either. 33 would be my next try, if I had to do it again. At 23, even the normal monsters should still pose a considerable threat --- especially attack-enhanced ones. And Razorjaw isn't exactly weaker than the small fry...

Actually, I would try the "kill 8 of these and 8 of those" quest at 23, to see how it works out. But that's just me. I'm doing a similar quest in the Wraithgate (FB69), even though I'll probably never ever be able to do the bosses. Not even the first one to get back the letter :-)

Will I have to kite at level 34 with mage build and all ugraded skills?

Most likely you'll not run into problems by just doing things straightforward. Skills don't really matter, pet heal is the only important one.

- Can you make your pet run in ANY direction?

No. Unless you click on a monster in the desired direction and tell the pet to attack, but that can backfire badly --- it seems you can't change the target of a pet once the command has been given, until the pet has actually reached and hit it. Other than that, when you're doing a boss there shouldn't be any other monsters anywhere.

Right now I can only think of calling it back.

Yep. Depending on the pet setting, you might have to repeatedly click on the "come to me" button, as the pet might be torn between moving back to you as ordered, and retaliating attacks as per pet setting. Well, I guess you'd change that if you are trying to kite.

I sometimes do this to move the target closer to me, without actually doing the luring game.

So how do you do it effectively?

Kiting? Don't. In my opinion, trying to kite with a pet will only result in death. Yours, unfortunately. You=dead. Pet=sad. Boss=happy.

Thing is, the boss will still cause damage by firing his ranged spells at the pet, so you'll still have to heal a lot. The pet doesn't do any damage anymore, though (since it's melee range and you're kiting...), so you have to do the damage. Which also means you're doing more damage than the pet... guess what happens with the aggro?

I decided to try a ranged pet (Eldergroth Marksman, if I understand things correctly) once I get my last pet slot (9 fungus to go...) to try against some ranged bosses. Not expecting much of an improvement, but I'll see. This only works if the boss is ranged too (i.e. it won't run to the pet to hit it, but instead fire ranged spells at it). Still, no ranged pets at FB19ish level, and I don't know whether Razorjaw would go magic.

- Isn't the Genie supposed to be utterly useless? (n00b question:) but this is another topic.)

No idea, I don't even have one. Maybe, someday, there'll be a genie guide that's actually useful.

Now that i have my screenshot under my eyes.... sorry everyone, look like I forgot that I was given cleric's party buff before doing that wined untamed FB19(I was only after Rend Razorjaw). Which helped a lot with pet heal. On one of the screenshot, we can see my baby veno using her genie's earthquake, since knockback work on FB19 boss. And no, my sister baby cleric didn't touch the boss life bar, she was only there to watch and res me to start again if it went wrong. b:chuckle
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A ranged pet will not work against FB19's boss, those are melee only. You still can tame a lv4 cactopod if you wish, but their range is shorter than the eldergoths at lv41 or even the longest range of them all, the eden cactopod(which is weaker at same lv than the eldergoth). Still nice to use on the right boss, like this fire dotting boss at range: Raving Drake Brute

Yes you can do FB19 at 34. No need for anything clever then, just chainheal.

No, you can't "Go there" with a pet.
Unless there's a monster 'there' - you CAN send your pet to attack a new monster, then hit stop, or follow.... It's not a very reliable thing to do, though it can work.

So yes, to kite, you have to move as well.

No, genies aren't utterly useless.

I did the 'kill 8 of those' quest at 19, solo. Luring works wonders.

it seems you can't change the target of a pet once the command has been given, until the pet has actually reached and hit it.

That's... only sort of true. Turn off your pets attack skills and try it. You can also hit 'halt' and then send it to a new target. That gets very fiddly very quickly though, due to a lack of hotkeys for halt and follow.

Also, of course, have your pet on manual so that it doesn't go back to trying to attack.

And no - razorjaw has no magic attack, he CAN be kited.


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Guar you really need to play ping-pong with, which is a good way to get your squad killed unless you have a second veno.
Pole... no. Not unless you've got multiple people using genies to interrupt. He's got that axe 'kill pet stone dead' attack.

However, he doesn't USE it very often - you can tank pole for maybe a minute or so if you get lucky. Which is long enough for the barb to get back up, and is useful to know.

Not really - the time to farm the FB mobs for drops is when you're close to their level. Pair with a second veno and you can usually do the bosses when the boss drops are still useful.