Barbarian or Wizard
michybossu
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hello guys....
im new to game..i have make a Wizard ( now its lvl 22) and its very good to damange but i die 2-3 hit ....All monsters same lvl like me kill me 2-3 hits...its very badto die and die and die...
I read on forums about barbarian...hmm..he very cool defense but bad damange..
But some guys say i have skill's that give me lot of crit...
So...idk wat class should i play Wizard or barbarian?
1. barbarian if i make pure tank he will have cool damange..with good items and skill?
2. i saw on youtube a barbarian fight a spider but he die..i think he dont was pure tank..right?
3.Wizard ..wat lvl can they stand up..and dont die and die and die
4.Wat you prefer Barb or Wi?
And more hepful things about class..Thnx Very Much!!
im new to game..i have make a Wizard ( now its lvl 22) and its very good to damange but i die 2-3 hit ....All monsters same lvl like me kill me 2-3 hits...its very badto die and die and die...
I read on forums about barbarian...hmm..he very cool defense but bad damange..
But some guys say i have skill's that give me lot of crit...
So...idk wat class should i play Wizard or barbarian?
1. barbarian if i make pure tank he will have cool damange..with good items and skill?
2. i saw on youtube a barbarian fight a spider but he die..i think he dont was pure tank..right?
3.Wizard ..wat lvl can they stand up..and dont die and die and die
4.Wat you prefer Barb or Wi?
And more hepful things about class..Thnx Very Much!!
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1. At end game or near high lv your high damage skill like armagedon starting to become hurt. Before that you need patience on not so good damage.
2. What spider you were talking about ? A boss or a poison mob ? If a poison mob class that can easily negate their poison is cleric.
3. Around mid lv then become strong after lv 90 wizard is for people with high patience or really like wizard.
4. Well i prefer wizard but just because looks. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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1. barbarian if i make pure tank he will have cool damange..with good items and skill?
Depends, barb wont do as much damage as a wizard, but damage will get better.
2. i saw on youtube a barbarian fight a spider but he die..i think he dont was pure tank..right?
barbs have low magic defense, so magic mobs will kill him easely.
3.Wizard ..wat lvl can they stand up..and dont die and die and die
no idea what lvl. But at a certain point you can kill stuff before it reaches you. Also in pvp they're a glass canon without the right gear. They can 1 hit a lot of classes, but can't take much hits themselves either.
4.Wat you prefer Barb or Wi?
I prefer wiz, I love magic classes and decent damage
anyway, just try it out yourself. heck! I tried all classes before coming to the conclusion I just love veno's. ^^[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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barbs have low magic defense, so magic mobs will kill him easely.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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plzz read and may other Thread guys...
So on this thread..i undestand Wizard its good from lvl 90+....that its a long way...
Barb its good deffense and that skill armagedon its very good..
btw..wat lvl i get armagedon?
i think i wil get a barb...hm...0 -
You didn't need to make two threads on this.0
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im sry..i didn't know0
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I play Wizard, and I just need to say, even though it is possible to die in 2 or 3 hits at lower levels from the monsters you need to kill... this should very rarely ever happen if you use skill and think about the battle.
For example, you need to learn how to "kite", basically, how to create the largest amount of distance between you and the enemy, use slowing spells like gush and then run back and use pyrogram and then run back and gush again.
From level 10 onwards I've only ever been hit by normal monsters when I've made silly mistakes or when A monster has spawned right on top of me, all other battles I can kill the monster usually before it gets within 10 meters of me, even if it's increased movement speed or magic resist.
Also at very high levels no class can rival the amount of damage a wizard can do in a single strike, this becomes very important in territory wars when barbarians need to be taken down quickly, a wizard can be used to effectively break through his charm or even 1 hit kill him.0 -
ya..you make big damange at lvl high but also low defense..0
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imho maybe you should consider psychic
we hit pretty hard (althought that in the end game wizards hit harder) and we do kill things before they reach us. I used to play a wiz (reached 25) and then I played a psy... I think that psy is way easier
i think that the transaction from wiz to barb will be kinda hard xD
and anyway, there is no class that cannot die
(oh, sins have that skill that prevents death + shadow escape... OP OP OP lol xD)0 -
Actually Thanos, I have a few psy friends and there are mini bosses that I can solo without them even reaching me that my psy friends cant fight because they simply cant control it enough.
A wizard that knows how to utilise it's skills is amazing at fighting monsters.
Force of Will
Will of the Phoenix
Gush
Distance shrink
Glacial Snare
All of these skills, if used correctly, are amazing at controlling the enemy and are all available by level 59, also if sharded correctly, wizards have higher defence than psychic with the use of stone barrier (increases physical resistance by 100%, double) and the other elemental shields for magic defence.
Wizard is a class which is best suited for those who can think through a battle strategically, I know that any mob with close ranged physical attack that can be controlled, I can fight indefinitely, with it never getting within 8 meters of me, as long as I have room to move about :-)0 -
I should admit that maybe it was because I had some experience I felt that the psy was easier.And when I returned to the wiz for a bit I felt weak and vulnerable. I realise that at lvl25 my wiz is pretty low and the skills you mentioned are quite helpful. On the other hand the psy knockback is learned in lvl9 if I remember correctly and makes things really easy and later we have freeze and stun (not 100%)
And sometimes a psy could get some hits (white voodoo+dots+soulburn+sor anyone? xD)
Anyway, in the end it's all about the player+gears+experience0 -
michybossu wrote: »hello guys....
im new to game..i have make a Wizard ( now its lvl 22) and its very good to damange but i die 2-3 hit ....All monsters same lvl like me kill me 2-3 hits...its very badto die and die and die...
I read on forums about barbarian...hmm..he very cool defense but bad damange..
But some guys say i have skill's that give me lot of crit...
So...idk wat class should i play Wizard or barbarian?
1. barbarian if i make pure tank he will have cool damange..with good items and skill?
2. i saw on youtube a barbarian fight a spider but he die..i think he dont was pure tank..right?
3.Wizard ..wat lvl can they stand up..and dont die and die and die
4.Wat you prefer Barb or Wi?
And more hepful things about class..Thnx Very Much!!
1. Barbarians have good damage with devour (P.DEF debuff to your target) and strength of the titans (P.DMG buff) with hammer / axe mastery, important skills. And of course Armageddon which is is only helpful if you get to level 74+ get axes with sacrificial strike or gloom (gloom is better IMHO) I still find this skill pretty useless since I kill fast anyways and yes, my barb is pure VIT. You don't need to be pure VIT if you don't want to, just remember that you need at least 6 STR, 1 DEX and 2 VIT every 2 levels, the last point on either of those 3
2. Barbs are squishy to magic, but they have HP to make it up (make sure you have your HP recovered), if your fighting a semi-magic mob or boss, you have to use alacrity of the beast to cancel it, the physical attacks won't really hurt barbs, shouldn't be a problem for you. I assume the barb was fighting a spider that uses poison.
3. Gush is important which is learned at level 3, you just use gush alone and kite (gush, run back, gush again) you will kill slow, this is how I played my wiz. Then you get hailstorm (level 16), which is also important unlike wizards who dislike this skill for some reason O_o. It actually works and when you level it, freeze duration is longer, if you use gush, then hailstorm, then gush and then a skill and gush again, then kite, mobs barely reach you if you keep leveling gush, hailstorm and pitfall for earlier levels, don't judge pitfall because of low chance of freeze, you raise it every time your level. At 39 you get will of the phoenix which knocks back mobs, and force of will (makes mobs unable to act) and glacial snare (huge slow debuff) at 49. I seen how wizards played and die a lot, reason why is that they barely use these skills and just nuke thinking that they will kill before the mobs reach them, which is false for at least the half of the levels. I am not a perfect wiz, but keeping yourself alive is better than trying to kill something before it reaches you.
4. For me, I prefer barb, I seem to kill faster as barb than wizard and chaining faster too. I am better at being a melee class than a caster. While I got way more HP on my barb than my wizard and also P.DEF. I hate arcane robes, I love heavy armor. So barbs for me . I use this char as hybrid too btw, I have light armor, but I barely use it because I know what mobs and bosses attacks me with. I prefer heavy armor over any armor.
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michybossu wrote: »ya..you make big damange at lvl high but also low defense..
When did I say I had low defence? My physical defence is higher than any other class that uses Arcane robes because of my ability to double my physical resistance and my magic resistances are sky high, allowing me to tank all magic bosses (There are a lot of them) VERY effectively. I'm a pure wizard with no vitality at all and I have 3,500hp, 4,500 when barb buffed.
I never get killed by normal mobs and other mobs I use skill to avoid getting killed, it's really easy.
if your level 20 pure wizard dies a lot you are doing something wrong, if you cant develop the skills to kite a monster you wont be able to develop the skills to use a blademaster or barbarian effectively either and I seriously dont think this game is right for you if you cant put the effort into learning these basic things.
Also, the amount of threads your posting on this topic is almost to the scale of trolling, stick to one.
Conclusion: Wizards do not simply have "low defence" and do not "die easily" at higher levels IF you know how to play them. They take skill.0 -
1. barbarian if i make pure tank he will have cool damange..with good items and skill?
Pure tanks have great aoe damage in TW and if you're a barbarian you get first pick in TT mats so you'll end up with good gear later on
2. i saw on youtube a barbarian fight a spider but he die..i think he dont was pure tank..right?
[COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]Barbarians have a spell called 'Alacrity of the Beast' which cancels target's channeling so magic mobs aren't even a problem for barbs because they can cancel all the channeling and magic mobs don't do good physical damage
3.Wizard ..wat lvl can they stand up..and dont die and die and die[/COLOR]
[COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]Wizards are hard to play till end-game but still I never really like to squad with wizards because they are slow damage per second and they can't receive bonus of devour[/COLOR]
4.Wat you prefer Barb or Wi?
[COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]I prefer playing a barbarian because of the higher survivability rate and I can do find squads for plenty of instances[/COLOR]
And more hepful things about class..Thnx Very Much!![SIGPIC]http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9433/testoz.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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