Tanking Zimo
Reichle - Sanctuary
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That's right, I said it. And I did it. I was too concentrated to take a screenshot though. Let me give you the details, and you tell me what you think.
Me: level74, base vit51, with armor 75; my HP is 2.3k, i shard my armor with garnets (1.5k phys def unbuffed, 2k buffed), no citrines, I did not have an HP charm on, but I had an MP one on.
The squad: lvl68 veno, lvl67 sin, lvl72 wiz
The story: The wiz is my friend, and he had Zimo left over from an earlier BH. It was late at night, so I offered to tank it for him, since Zimo is magic damage. The veno and the sin also needed Zimo.
We entered Disaster, and I realized I couldnt tank the physical mobs on the way to Zimo, so I asked my heavy build veno friend if she could tag along to pull, and we agreed that she would tank the mobs (the sin ended up tanking, the wiz stealing aggro a few times, but there were no squad wipes; the sin died once, in the beginning, the wiz died once, halfway to zimo, but I think that's a pretty good record considering the circumstances).
So we get to Zimo fairly quickly and easily, and my veno friend pulls him. I start off with wield thunder to get aggro. Beforehand I told them that they only attack after I tell them.
The wiz was supplement healing me (though a little later in the battle I realized it was unnecessary; you will see why in a bit) and I was doing 2-4 IHs every 3-6 attack shots (plume, cyclone, occasional wield thunder, I wanted to finish with tempest but it was too late, lmao).
About 1/10 of the way through, I let the veno put her pet to attack. About 1/4 of the way through I let the veno attack. About 1/2 of the way through, I let the sin attack (he snuck in like 2 hits a little earlier though). And about 3/4 of the way through, I let the wiz attack.
And all went well. I did not die or come close to it for the whole battle (neither did anyone else), there was no ping pong aggro, and everyone was happy at the end. It was very fun.
Oh, by the way Zimo hit me for 500-1200 HP points each hit.
So what do yall think of this fun experience? Have any of you tanked Zimo?
Me: level74, base vit51, with armor 75; my HP is 2.3k, i shard my armor with garnets (1.5k phys def unbuffed, 2k buffed), no citrines, I did not have an HP charm on, but I had an MP one on.
The squad: lvl68 veno, lvl67 sin, lvl72 wiz
The story: The wiz is my friend, and he had Zimo left over from an earlier BH. It was late at night, so I offered to tank it for him, since Zimo is magic damage. The veno and the sin also needed Zimo.
We entered Disaster, and I realized I couldnt tank the physical mobs on the way to Zimo, so I asked my heavy build veno friend if she could tag along to pull, and we agreed that she would tank the mobs (the sin ended up tanking, the wiz stealing aggro a few times, but there were no squad wipes; the sin died once, in the beginning, the wiz died once, halfway to zimo, but I think that's a pretty good record considering the circumstances).
So we get to Zimo fairly quickly and easily, and my veno friend pulls him. I start off with wield thunder to get aggro. Beforehand I told them that they only attack after I tell them.
The wiz was supplement healing me (though a little later in the battle I realized it was unnecessary; you will see why in a bit) and I was doing 2-4 IHs every 3-6 attack shots (plume, cyclone, occasional wield thunder, I wanted to finish with tempest but it was too late, lmao).
About 1/10 of the way through, I let the veno put her pet to attack. About 1/4 of the way through I let the veno attack. About 1/2 of the way through, I let the sin attack (he snuck in like 2 hits a little earlier though). And about 3/4 of the way through, I let the wiz attack.
And all went well. I did not die or come close to it for the whole battle (neither did anyone else), there was no ping pong aggro, and everyone was happy at the end. It was very fun.
Oh, by the way Zimo hit me for 500-1200 HP points each hit.
So what do yall think of this fun experience? Have any of you tanked Zimo?
Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
Yes, I love PWI that much. Every class is awesome in their own way.
Yes, I love PWI that much. Every class is awesome in their own way.
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Goodjob ;o
If i'm not mistaken, RedRoses soloed 1 eye krimson at 8x b:shocked
Clerics are OP, nerf plox x.x[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »Goodjob ;o
If i'm not mistaken, RedRoses soloed 1 eye krimson at 8x b:shocked
Clerics are OP, nerf plox x.x
LMAO a psychic tellin a cleric she's OP. Clerics are not OP. They can heal themselves, which makes them able to truly solo (by yourself) lots of bosses and minibosses (given that the bosses are mag attack...even some lower level physical bosses). Other classes' heals are pretty much supplementary, but that doesn't make clerics OP.
Thanks for the compliment though o.~Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Yep i have tanked all bosses in bh59 and pyro in bh69 even.
As well as a few mini bosses like Unholy DarkClaw, Bloodeyes etc. Soloed DarkClaw or 1 of them 3 bosses for OHT chain, took me around 15mins, 10 Herb Yuanxiao and 15k repair bill. Got a guildie (sin) to came help kill the other 2 while i tanked them.
Clerics can easily tank most range magic attack bosses.0 -
First off, gratz on tanking Zimo! b:pleasedReichle - Sanctuary wrote: »The story: The wiz is my friend, and he had Zimo left over from an earlier BH. It was late at night, so I offered to tank it for him, since Zimo is metal, and clerics ofc have high metal resistance.
However I wanted to point out that Zimo being a metal mob also means she has high resistance to your cleric magic, which is metal-based, and that she is weak to fire-magic. If you tank her again, it will be easier for you if you pop a pill that adds fire damage and double the plume-shots against her (maybe Wield Thunder, Plumeshot, Plumeshot and skip the Cyclone/Thunderball).
Physical Defence
2773
Magic Defence
Metal: 2790 <-- Strong vs Metal Magic
Wood: 1717
Water: 1717
Fire: 1001 <-- Weak vs Fire Magic
Earth: 1717
Wood mobs, like Ofotis, are weak to metal magic and are the easiest for clerics to kill.0 -
Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary wrote: »Physical Defence
2773
Magic Defence
Metal: 2790 <-- Strong vs Metal Magic
Wood: 1717
Water: 1717
Fire: 1001 <-- Weak vs Fire Magic
Earth: 1717
Interesting... So it is better to spam only plume shots on zimo rather the regular plume/cyclone combo...
@Reichle
Gratz on tankin' Zimo. I've done myself too, but not without a second cleric healin' me. Excellent job b:victorySliding we go, only fear on our side. To the edge of the wire and we rush with the tide.
Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
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Grats! Tanking is fun when you are a cleric ^^ (Sadly, you will usually get a barb in squad who believes that he is a much better tank for magic, and insists that being a cleric your only job is to heal him. b:sad)
I think if you add some more hp with citrines shards, you should be able to solo the entire dungeon pretty soon if not already(the physical mobs can be tricky though, and you would need Zeal genie for lure). My argument for adding hp and not physical def is that the physical def doesn't really make you able to tank the physical mobs, you can't add enough for that, even with the extra 60% you get off your buff. I tried... b:surrender But if you add more hp, that gives you ironheart more time to catch the damage you take, and that means you can solo just about anything magic. b:victory ((I am basic this on my own build and experimentation, so it is basically an opinion, if you have high survivablity, you don't need to change it.))Cleric 9x
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Veno 8x
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Barb 7x
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Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary wrote: »If you tank her again, it will be easier for you if you pop a pill that adds fire damage and double the plume-shots against her (maybe Wield Thunder, Plumeshot, Plumeshot and skip the Cyclone/Thunderball).
Strangely enough my Cyclone still does more damge then Plumeshot to Zimo. Probably lvl10Metal Mastery did help since Plumeshot dont benefit from it. b:chuckle
Having said that Ofotis is easy tanking, even a sin wont pull off you. I had 2 sins (lvl79) tried but failed, they did give me 5 secs to get aggro though. Its tough to pull aggro from some1 that does 10k cyclone noncrit every 2nd shot.0 -
Grats! Zimo was always the hardest for me to tank (as I've always unfortunately had a little weaker metal resistance than normal Q_Q), but I absolutely LOVE to prove people wrong that for FB/BH 59 a Cleric/Wiz/Psy is a much better tank (bosses only, the melee mobs still make you go crunch, usually xD ). In my mid 7x experience (74+) I've even been able to tank with only myself as a healer (as you only really need to purify and IH once or twice as needed), and was still able to hold aggro against everyone else.
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Arcane armor class tanks magic damage boss . Teh miracle -_-0
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Umm good job and all buuuuut. . . comments in red....long post coming up b:surrenderReichle - Sanctuary wrote: »
Me: level74, base vit51, with armor 75; my HP is 2.3k, i shard my armor with garnets (1.5k phys def unbuffed, 2k buffed), no citrines, I did not have an HP charm on, but I had an MP one on.This is an example when sharding with garnet might not be such a good idea, but since you have 50 vit, its fine.(Becuz Zimo can deal about 1k+ damage even to arcanes at that level, and that is a 2 shot for you. But the garnet did nothing in helping you to tank Zimo
The squad: lvl68 veno, lvl67 sin, lvl72 wiz
The story: The wiz is my friend, and he had Zimo left over from an earlier BH. It was late at night, so I offered to tank it for him, since Zimo is metal, and clerics ofc have high metal resistance. The veno and the sin also needed Zimo.false, a cleric can have metal as its weakest element, the only thing that determines who is strong against which element is the gear equipped and not your class(ie whther most fo the gears have that elemental resist or not)
We entered Disaster, and I realized I couldnt tank the physical mobs on the way to Zimo, so I asked my heavy build veno friend if she could tag along to pull, and we agreed that she would tank the mobs (the sin ended up tanking, the wiz stealing aggro a few times, but there were no squad wipes; the sin died once, in the beginning, the wiz died once, halfway to zimo, but I think that's a pretty good record considering the circumstances).
So we get to Zimo fairly quickly and easily, and my veno friend pulls him. I start off with wield thunder to get aggro. Beforehand I told them that they only attack after I tell them.
The wiz was supplement healing me (though a little later in the battle I realized it was unnecessary; you will see why in a bit) and I was doing 2-4 IHs every 3-6 attack shots (plume, cyclone, occasional wield thunder, I wanted to finish with tempest but it was too late, lmao). My advice is find out how much is your IH healing per tick and you can safely judge how much ih you'll need to cast on yourself. For example, my IH heals about 800 hp per tick. If something(like Zimo) is hitting me for 2k every cast, I would jsut cast my IH 3 times and would try to maintain that 3 IH all the way. In your case, you might heal for 500 hp, Zimo is hititng you at about 1.2k damage per hit, so 3 IH is all that you need to maintain
About 1/10 of the way through, I let the veno put her pet to attack. About 1/4 of the way through I let the veno attack. About 1/2 of the way through, I let the sin attack (he snuck in like 2 hits a little earlier though). And about 3/4 of the way through, I let the wiz attack. Actually, you should let the wizard start at about the same time as the sin(reduces the chance of sin taking aggro because the longer you let him DD, the more likely he can outdamage you can steal aggro) but this is good, a team that listens and a leader who knows what shes doing
And all went well. I did not die or come close to it for the whole battle (neither did anyone else), there was no ping pong aggro, and everyone was happy at the end. It was very fun.
Oh, by the way Zimo hit me for 500-1200 HP points each hit.
So what do yall think of this fun experience? Have any of you tanked Zimo?Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary wrote: »First off, gratz on tanking Zimo! b:pleased
However I wanted to point out that Zimo being a metal mob also means she has high resistance to your cleric magic, which is metal-based, and that she is weak to fire-magic. If you tank her again, it will be easier for you if you pop a pill that adds fire damage and double the plume-shots against her (maybe Wield Thunder, Plumeshot, Plumeshot and skip the Cyclone/Thunderball).Popping an elemental attack pill does not affect your plume shot at all. Treat plume shot as magical all the way until jsut before applying damage, its only physical then. It is still based on your magic attack stats
Physical Defence
2773
Magic Defence
Metal: 2790 <-- Strong vs Metal Magic
Wood: 1717
Water: 1717
Fire: 1001 <-- Weak vs Fire Magic
Earth: 1717
Wood mobs, like Ofotis, are weak to metal magic and are the easiest for clerics to kill.WtfPownage - Heavens Tear wrote: »Strangely enough my Cyclone still does more damge then Plumeshot to Zimo. Probably lvl10Metal Mastery did help since Plumeshot dont benefit from it. b:chuckle
Having said that Ofotis is easy tanking, even a sin wont pull off you. I had 2 sins (lvl79) tried but failed, they did give me 5 secs to get aggro though. Its tough to pull aggro from some1 that does 10k cyclone noncrit every 2nd shot.
Its the same for me where my metal attacks are dealing more damage than plume shot. But do remember that in the time taken to cast 1 wield thunder, you can easily cast 2 plume shots.
The thing is, wield thunder gives much more chi than plume shot, so I do WT anyways. One of the reason why clerics cannot DD as well as a wizard or psychic late game is the lack of a proper damaging spell combo.(until you reach lvl 100 and spend about 40mil on another quite spammable skill but it takes about 800(?) mana per cast with the streght of cyclone) All we can do it have alternating cyclone between plume shots and wield thunder. (Making it a non-pure magical combo which might not be as effective late game).
One advice if you are trying this, when the veno or anyone is pulling Zimo, do not attempt to steal aggro until you are a safe distance away from him. Umm, its a one hit ko if you are not.
This is jsut my opinions, i might be wrong or the way im doing things might not be the most efficient bt what you are doing here is actually already acceptable. Just trying to clarify some of the things that might be untrue here.
I can tank up to DoD atm for physical mini bosses and most magical bosses and my gears are not that great either(OHT stuff + tt90s). Clerics can definitely solo more things than other classes but it all depends on yourwillingness to try.Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
1. This is an example when sharding with garnet might not be such a good idea, but since you have 50 vit, its fine.(Becuz Zimo can deal about 1k+ damage even to arcanes at that level, and that is a 2 shot for you. But the garnet did nothing in helping you to tank Zimo
2. My advice is find out how much is your IH healing per tick and you can safely judge how much ih you'll need to cast on yourself. For example, my IH heals about 800 hp per tick. If something(like Zimo) is hitting me for 2k every cast, I would jsut cast my IH 3 times and would try to maintain that 3 IH all the way. In your case, you might heal for 500 hp, Zimo is hititng you at about 1.2k damage per hit, so 3 IH is all that you need to maintain
3. Actually, you should let the wizard start at about the same time as the sin(reduces the chance of sin taking aggro because the longer you let him DD, the more likely he can outdamage you can steal aggro) but this is good, a team that listens and a leader who knows what shes doing
1. I don't shard garnets because I already have enough vit i'm comfortable with and because I need higher physical defense. Since I wear arcane armor, my magic resistance is pretty high.
2. If you read the bottom, you would notice that zimo hit me for 500-1200 each hit. That's why I healed myself for 2-4 IHs.
3. I doubt that a lvl67 sin could take aggro from a lvl74 cleric when the boss is at half health. I was more worried about the wiz because he had fire attacks and was closer to my level.Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Candie - Raging Tide wrote: »Arcane armor class tanks magic damage boss . Teh miracle -_-
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Well with arcane armors running around with only citrines on, they can't really tank anything else, can they? And with barbs running around being arrogant, thinking they can do all, they won't LET the cleric tank anything. So it's a minor achievement, but I still think it's cool.Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Everybody tanked in my BH 59 today. With 2 archers and wiz pulling around aggro and bouncing bosses between themselves.. BM didn't had a chance to tank and no one except me had a zeal genie.... Was fun, lol b:shocked0
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Amasaya - Heavens Tear wrote: »Everybody tanked in my BH 59 today. With 2 archers and wiz pulling around aggro and bouncing bosses between themselves.. BM didn't had a chance to tank and no one except me had a zeal genie.... Was fun, lol b:shocked
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It is still cool Reichle! b:pleasedReichle - Sanctuary wrote: »=.=
Well with arcane armors running around with only citrines on, they can't really tank anything else, can they? And with barbs running around being arrogant, thinking they can do all, they won't LET the cleric tank anything. So it's a minor achievement, but I still think it's cool.0 -
Reichle - Sanctuary wrote: »1. I don't shard garnets because I already have enough vit i'm comfortable with and because I need higher physical defense. Since I wear arcane armor, my magic resistance is pretty high.
2. I really don't see how an AA cleric can have metal as its weakest resistance. Don't mags have the highest resistance to the magic element they use? I would expect wizes to have high fire/water/earth resistance and psys to have high water/earth resistance, because thats the elements they use.
3. If you read the bottom, you would notice that zimo hit me for 500-1200 each hit. That's why I healed myself for 2-4 IHs.
4. I doubt that a lvl67 sin could take aggro from a lvl74 cleric when the boss is at half health. I was more worried about the wiz because he had fire attacks and was closer to my level.
The only reason wizards can have fire/earth/water resistances higher than their others is because of earth/water/fire barrier. Since other classes don't have any skills that work like that, their elemental defense relies purely on their equips and class will have no effect on it. Basically, a buffed cleric and veno with the same stats/equips will have the same elemental resistances instead of the veno having a higher wood resistance while the cleric has a higher metal resistance. Case in point, during my cleric's lower 30s, I had her equipped with sleeves that had -chan but only 4 resists. Because of that, my metal resistance was ~200 below the rest of my resists.
That aside, congrats to you for showing you can tank certain opponents too.0 -
Amasaya - Heavens Tear wrote: »Was fun, lol b:shocked
You knows wats not fun ?? Its the nub clerics that refused to heal another cleric.
Example.
Yesterday i ran my last BH59 thank god. We didnt have a tank, so I put up my hands and say np i will tank them bosses since we got 2 clerics anyway. wiz was only lvl74 and psy was even lower.
Yup, our other cleric decided not to heal me and her reply was play your class role, heal.
And all the time i was tanking Drake, she was dding. wow just wow. She then reply if the wiz tank she would have healed him. So wats the different between a wiz or cleric tanking ?? hmm pretty sure its nothing ...
Its those clerics that i hate, all they knows is read textbook and dont try/do anything else. Cleric are the best healer hands down, but that doesnt meant we cant dd/tank magical bosses. Provided some1 is there to heal us ofcourse b:dirty
I think there is a saying for this situation right ?? Think outside the box b:victory0 -
WtfPownage - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. Yup, our other cleric decided not to heal me and her reply was play your class role, heal.
And all the time i was tanking Drake, she was dding. wow just wow.
2. She then reply if the wiz tank she would have healed him. So wats the different between a wiz or cleric tanking ?? hmm pretty sure its nothing ...
3. Its those clerics that i hate, all they knows is read textbook and dont try/do anything else. Cleric are the best healer hands down, but that doesnt meant we cant dd/tank magical bosses. Provided some1 is there to heal us ofcourse b:dirty
I think there is a saying for this situation right ?? Think outside the box b:victory
1. She's an effin noob if she thinks all a cleric can do is heal. And if she was serious about that, she would have healed you. I think she was just throwin a temper tantrum because no tank class was there.
2. Because a wiz is entirely offensive maybe?
3. A "textbook" cleric doesn't merely heal. They debuff and DD when everyone's at full health. Sure it's rare for a non-tank class to tank (especially mags), but it doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't.
That cleric you were with sounds like an arrogant lazy noob. IJS >___>Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Case in point, during my cleric's lower 30s, I had her equipped with sleeves that had -chan but only 4 resists. Because of that, my metal resistance was ~200 below the rest of my resists.
That aside, congrats to you for showing you can tank certain opponents too.
....hmmm that doesnt sound like you tested it. I'm saying if all three mag classes had the same equips (w/all 5 resistances, smh), clerics would have higher metal...so on and so forth. But this is just speculation, i dont think its that far of a stretch.Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Reichle - Sanctuary wrote: »A "textbook" cleric doesn't merely heal. They debuff and DD when everyone's at full health.
Sigh tbh, i have yet to grp with another cleric that heals/debuff/dd all at the same time even when i am doing bh with my cleric or alt.
Even the higher level clerics, all they do is spam ih. in a grp b:surrender
At lvl70, my elemental seal is maxed out. and even when i am healing i always find time to at least debuff the boss/es when we run bh or worldbossing.
Some clerics i have seen at lvl 80+ havent even got elemental seal pass lvl1 b:cry0 -
WtfPownage - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sigh tbh, i have yet to grp with another cleric that heals/debuff/dd all at the same time even when i am doing bh with my cleric or alt.
Even the higher level clerics, all they do is spam ih. in a grp b:surrender
At lvl70, my elemental seal is maxed out. and even when i am healing i always find time to at least debuff the boss/es when we run bh or worldbossing.
Some clerics i have seen at lvl 80+ havent even got elemental seal pass lvl1 b:cry
Awww thats sad. For the higher levels, maybe they got too used to using IH all the time. I tend to mix IH with wellspring and SoR depending on the situation (and the squad, bwaha).
My elemental and physical seals arent maxed, but they are slowly getting there, haha (a tad broke
), i think they're at level 5 now. Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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WtfPownage - Heavens Tear wrote: »You knows wats not fun ?? Its the nub clerics that refused to heal another cleric.
Example.
Yesterday i ran my last BH59 thank god. We didnt have a tank, so I put up my hands and say np i will tank them bosses since we got 2 clerics anyway. wiz was only lvl74 and psy was even lower.
Yup, our other cleric decided not to heal me and her reply was play your class role, heal.
And all the time i was tanking Drake, she was dding. wow just wow. She then reply if the wiz tank she would have healed him. So wats the different between a wiz or cleric tanking ?? hmm pretty sure its nothing ...
Its those clerics that i hate, all they knows is read textbook and dont try/do anything else. Cleric are the best healer hands down, but that doesnt meant we cant dd/tank magical bosses. Provided some1 is there to heal us ofcourse b:dirty
I think there is a saying for this situation right ?? Think outside the box b:victory
That cleric healing on that gone-wild BH was my alt, and yes.. I had lots of fun (almost got heart attack, actually b:cry). I even said "watch your aggro, ffs" because boss bouncing is not fun sight too watch... >.> Very intense, but I think that I learned to play cleric a bit better after that.. (res one-shotted DDs, heal and purify archer tanks at the same time, ugh.. Burned tons of mana pots...)
I could tank my own BHs on my wiz, with Cleric's help (purify those nasty DoTs and throw 3-4 IB every few seconds, and I did just fine)
Two or three days ago, just three of us. Veno, BM and me as a cleric.. BM was a bit afraid to rush into mobs and stun them, so we had a venos glacial taking aggro and tanking, while we would DD. BM tanked bosses just fine, though his health was dropping down quite a bit, even though I was stacking sparked and unsparked IB's all the time >.> I'll definatelly ask arcane user to tank bosses next time ...
But yea, what you said in quoted box sucks.. My cleric was 71 at the time, and I did just fine.0 -
Reichle - Sanctuary wrote: »1. She's an effin noob if she thinks all a cleric can do is heal. And if she was serious about that, she would have healed you. I think she was just throwin a temper tantrum because no tank class was there.
2. Because a wiz is entirely offensive maybe?
3. A "textbook" cleric doesn't merely heal. They debuff and DD when everyone's at full health. Sure it's rare for a non-tank class to tank (especially mags), but it doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't.
That cleric you were with sounds like an arrogant lazy noob. IJS >___>
I agree with this. But for example, I was farming Qingzi for Fiends ring when my cleric was 40 or so, and I could do it just fine with help of pots and IB. Lots of bosses do ranged magical attack (which arcanes should tank), or close physical attack (which HA should tank).
And wiz isn't entirely offensive. They got one healing spell b:chuckle (which I would use on cleric/tank most of the time)0 -
Amasaya - Heavens Tear wrote: »And wiz isn't entirely offensive. They got one healing spell b:chuckle (which I would use on cleric/tank most of the time)
95% offensive then, lmaoReichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Reichle - Sanctuary wrote: »....hmmm that doesnt sound like you tested it. I'm saying if all three mag classes had the same equips (w/all 5 resistances, smh), clerics would have higher metal...so on and so forth. But this is just speculation, i dont think its that far of a stretch.
It doesn't work like that. Let's say you have base 4000 (let's say, 50% dmg) resistance across all 5 elements, at level 50 (yes, pulling numbers from my ****, but the numbers are for argument sake, it doesn't matter). Let's say that a wizard, cleric, and veno all have these stats (lvl 50, 50%, 4k resis), none of the classes have an innate higher resistance. It would be the exact same resistance(s) between all of those classes (unbuffed, so no wizard barriers/etc) given they have the same gear. Venos get a wood dmg amplifier, clerics get a metal dmg amplifier, etc, but those are all offensive (and passive) skills, not defensive.
But don't get me wrong, I like the idea that the character gets a higher resistance for the element they use (venos-wood, clerics-metal, etc), but it just doesn't work like that. : /[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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b:chuckle b:victory0 -
Nexina - Lost City wrote: »It doesn't work like that. Let's say you have base 4000 (let's say, 50% dmg) resistance across all 5 elements, at level 50 (yes, pulling numbers from my ****, but the numbers are for argument sake, it doesn't matter). Let's say that a wizard, cleric, and veno all have these stats (lvl 50, 50%, 4k resis), none of the classes have an innate higher resistance. It would be the exact same resistance(s) between all of those classes (unbuffed, so no wizard barriers/etc) given they have the same gear. Venos get a wood dmg amplifier, clerics get a metal dmg amplifier, etc, but those are all offensive (and passive) skills, not defensive.
But don't get me wrong, I like the idea that the character gets a higher resistance for the element they use (venos-wood, clerics-metal, etc), but it just doesn't work like that. : /
All right, all right, ya got me.Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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Reichle - Sanctuary wrote: »1. I don't shard garnets because I already have enough vit i'm comfortable with and because I need higher physical defense. Since I wear arcane armor, my magic resistance is pretty high.
2. I really don't see how an AA cleric can have metal as its weakest resistance. Don't mags have the highest resistance to the magic element they use? I would expect wizes to have high fire/water/earth resistance and psys to have high water/earth resistance, because thats the elements they use.
3. If you read the bottom, you would notice that zimo hit me for 500-1200 each hit. That's why I healed myself for 2-4 IHs.
4. I doubt that a lvl67 sin could take aggro from a lvl74 cleric when the boss is at half health. I was more worried about the wiz because he had fire attacks and was closer to my level.
My metal resistence is the lowest of all. But my fire and (forgot the other one, have to check it (probably wood)) have the the highest. That's why i hate metal mobs because they hit me harder than any other magic mob.8x Cleric (Sanctuary)
6x Veno (Sanctuary)
5x Assasin (Harshlands)
3x Archer (Sanctuary)0 -
StreamElf - Sanctuary wrote: »My metal resistence is the lowest of all. But my fire and (forgot the other one, have to check it (probably wood)) have the the highest. That's why i hate metal mobs because they hit me harder than any other magic mob.
okay, yall are annoying me now. >___> *stalks off to edit old post*Reichle lvl7x cleric | Neithin lvl5x barb | Tigressi lvl3x veno | Etheriali lvl3x wiz | Goldeeni lvl2x sin | Lilaq lvl2x BM | Fuegai lvlx archer | Whiteney psychic not created yet >_>
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I am not impressed by this. I solo'd Mantavip Scout at 62. And to settle any dispute, clerics are OP. That is all.0
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gz i guess
tho u should let wizzy tank. when u heal and tank, everyone have to nerf their dmg to not steal aggro from youBUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681
AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682
GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=9382820
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