PWI Site Redesign - Status?

Kephras - Heavens Tear
Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Suggestion Box
Reviving this discussion because, let's face it, we've heard nothing yet. And it still needs to be addressed.

What was it, two months back? PWE decided to revamp the PWI website with "tideborn theme" and added a whole bucket of unnecessary and unrelated **** to the main page.
Now we have a multi-game Profile system in place of our previous forum identity, and the main site is exactly the same - despite a poll conducted upon its unveiling that showed approximately two thirds of the userbase voting it down.

Now, I realize there've been other pressing concerns - the DQ change, unleashing BOI on the public, and the rumored "bug fixes" that future updates might finally deliver [/skepticism]. Bottom line: yes, you've been busy, but this does still need fixing.
Would you like me to redesign it, freelance?

Here's my take on what's wrong. Most is copied from a previous post, but the Profile update seems to have remedied some minor complaints. Mayhaps a GM or admin will be kind enough to chime in with an update.

This is in reference to the MAIN SITE of Perfect World International, pwi.perfectworld.com


A game's main site is designed to draw new players in, with information & game content.
It should present one, clear, undiluted message: "COME PLAY THIS GAME."
The current design presents no clear message at all, except perhaps "Look, shiny!"

Buzz Stream
-The content you are presenting here is completely irrelevant to your product. It does nothing except distract visitors and redirect traffic AWAY from your site.
If this section is to continue to exist at all, filter it for content relating exclusively to PWE - either media articles, info on other PWE products in development or release, etc.
Additionally, it is giving an outside source free unfiltered access to your own website. I can't stress enough what a bad idea that is.

Featured Videos
Same problem as Buzz Stream: features content completely irrelevant to your game product, redirecting traffic and interest away from your site.
-Eliminate non-PWE content. Feature videos that present your game in its best possible light, documentary vids on the game's development, and the like.
-A link to PWI's youtube channel may also be appropriate, though once again remember that you do NOT want to redirect traffic away from your game

3rd-Party Site Ads
-I disabled my ad-blocker long enough to see one of these, normally it's a blank spot on the page. But why is there one at all? PWE as a corporation has more than enough revenue to support its own website(s), placing ads on its pages is tacky. Additionally, I visited twenty other MMO sites (can't list 'em here, would be naughty), and NOT ONE had an ad on its page for anything other than its own game-related products (be they subscriptions, merchandise, game-cards, friend referrals, or other games created by that company). PWE's choice to implement ads is, quite simply, absurd

Tideborn
-...have been marketed to hell and back. But thank you for finally updating them to a "finished" status.
-Re-integrate them with the original three races, or design (/request) new artwork featuring all four races equally. Perhaps, as per your game loading screens, a randomly cycling selection of artwork from the eight playable classes

News | Game Info | etc.... menu block
-The current design (black / white text / green highlighting) does not fit with any other content on the page, and resembles an XBox widget of some kind.
-The sleek "techy" look should probably be replaced by something more befitting PWI's fantasy environment
The colors should be revised to match page content, or at the very least something relating to PWI.
Bottom Line: It currently resembles content from another company/site altogether.

Login/Sign Up block
A minor complaint - the login & account details are already available from the header at the top of the page.
-Revise this section to simply offer a sign-up to the game, or hidden altogether if a registered account is logged in
(A "Not [account]? Log in here!" line would be handy)

News
-This is the heart of your page. It says what is new and exciting about PWI.
Make it larger, the focal point of your site. Include obvious links to past news & events (beyond a simple "more" button in the corner)

Screenshots/Wallpapers
Remember that the main site constitutes PWI's "official" face to the internet community.
While allowing user content to be posted is not in and of itself a bad thing, these two sections should be exclusively controlled by PWI.
*If you are truly intent on featuring user content in these sections, perhaps make a contest of it, to present the best possible images as your "face of the game"
The goal is to make the most favorable impression possible.
*Corollary: Wallpapers - STILL tideborn-only. Give us a friggin' break already.

Contests
-Now missing, apparently. PWI no longer features contests/events as a subsection?

Forum:
Takes up the entire bottom half of the page. Featuring the community input is good, but not to excess. Also woefully outdated (apparently does not update dynamically?)
-Project Fashion and the Reader's Choice MMO awards are both long over.
Perhaps relegate it to a sidebar with the heading "Hot Topics" or somesuch; list the forum threads your moderators view most appropriate; end with a "Visit our forums!" link

Missing Content:
-Site is now missing the "Online/Offline" server box. This would have been the clearest indication that visitors have in fact arrived at a site for a GAME.

In summary, it seems your web designers have forgotten that their site was for an MMORPG.
Any of these sites represent a proper design ethos and I advise them to study each.
[Linking other game sites is naughty, but google virtually any other MMO. You'll see.]

There is no TL;DR, bullet-points are the best I can summarize.
Constructive discussion encouraged.
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  • Esnemyl - Dreamweaver
    Esnemyl - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,079 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    also not forgetting:

    Screenshots!
    Want to upload a very pretty pic? you try so, and its cut in half + you cant edit the page since its been catapulted off the forum.. b:cry
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    That's a forum layout issue, not a main-site one. That they went back and fixed the colors from that god-awful glaring white putrescence is about as good as we're going to get here, I think.
  • Riverwell - Archosaur
    Riverwell - Archosaur Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ...I was just thinking about this as I logged on today. And I basically agree with everything you've said.

    But O-M-G enough! with the effing tideborn! I'm so sick of seeing them everywhere. Seriously, bring the old forums back, they were much classier.

    I also agree with the random videos on the mainsite. When they added those I was like wtf? Plus they make people who don't follow that stuff kind of alienated. I have no use for it...
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  • Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear
    Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear Posts: 916 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    This is how it works:

    1. Got a problem/glitch with PWi? Yes, go to 2.
    2. Do a lot of other people have the same feelings as you about the problem? Yes, go to 3.
    3. They make a riot out of it? Yes, go to 4.
    4. GMs address the problem & make a sticky out of it with a poll.

    The poll is conducted and GMs make the response of "we are working to fix the issue, please be patient". Then before you know it, we get another problem, repeat steps 1 to 4. With the new problem that has occurred, everyone forgets about the old problem because it gets unstickied by the GMs when the gamers are looking at the new problem.
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    This is how it works:

    1. Got a problem/glitch with PWi? Yes, go to 2.
    2. Do a lot of other people have the same feelings as you about the problem? Yes, go to 3.
    3. They make a riot out of it? Yes, go to 4.
    4. GMs address the problem & make a sticky out of it with a poll.

    The poll is conducted and GMs make the response of "we are working to fix the issue, please be patient". Then before you know it, we get another problem, repeat steps 1 to 4. With the new problem that has occurred, everyone forgets about the old problem because it gets unstickied by the GMs when the gamers are looking at the new problem.

    Unfortunately very true. But at least Frankie has shown some interest in actually listening when there's an issue. (Hey Frankie? This is an issue.)
    Which is why most of this is copy-paste from a necro-locked post dating back to March. So that it doesn't just get glossed over and forgotten about. This is PWI's doormat. It should read a big hearty "Welcome!" not this random ferret-on-crack technology garbage they're pushing.
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited June 2010
    This is how it works:

    1. Got a problem/glitch with PWi? Yes, go to 2.
    2. Do a lot of other people have the same feelings as you about the problem? Yes, go to 3.
    3. They make a riot out of it? Yes, go to 4.
    4. GMs address the problem & make a sticky out of it with a poll.

    The poll is conducted and GMs make the response of "we are working to fix the issue, please be patient". Then before you know it, we get another problem, repeat steps 1 to 4. With the new problem that has occurred, everyone forgets about the old problem because it gets unstickied by the GMs when the gamers are looking at the new problem.

    LOL like back in September they said they were going to fix the monthly race that's been broke since release. Still haven't seen the fix.
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  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I totally agree. The main page is not in the 'style' of pwi. Also the banners on the forum are absolutely annoying. Non of them has to do with pwi, and only 1 has to do with 'gaming' at all since they recommend some computer. The other ones I get have nothing to do with games or what so ever.

    The site just needs a revamp. Tideborn are not the only race in the game. Yes the fish were new. But by now they're like meh. Everyone knows about them, so move on with the tideborn, there are more races.
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  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I totally agree. The main page is not in the 'style' of pwi. Also the banners on the forum are absolutely annoying. Non of them has to do with pwi, and only 1 has to do with 'gaming' at all since they recommend some computer. The other ones I get have nothing to do with games or what so ever.

    The site just needs a revamp. Tideborn are not the only race in the game. Yes the fish were new. But by now they're like meh. Everyone knows about them, so move on with the tideborn, there are more races.

    I know...tell me about >.>
    The smell of fish yuck!! b:chuckle
  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    +1

    Frankie, xarfox or whoever... pass this on to your site designer. He/she could learn a thing from Keph here. We DO need more integration between the Tideborn and the other three races. Anyone who looks at the site will think there are two different PWIs:

    [Human + Untamed + Elf] and [Tideborn]

    The game content does enough of this separation with the vastly different graphics/music/monsters in the Tideborn lands, the weapon token quests, etc... we don't need the site to be making it worse.

    You used to have a nice, readable site that was easy on the eyes. Where did the whole chinese theme go?? That's what made this game unique. Now it's just generic, cluttered, distracting and full of images and text that may or may not have anything to do with the game at all.

    The designer of the current site doesn't seem to know what "clutter" is. The videos and buzz have no place, period. Get rid of them. No one cares. Sorry but it's true. -_-

    /rant

    EDIT: Oh, and the launcher is ugly. And you can't start the game just by hitting enter anymore. >_>
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  • Hakiii - Heavens Tear
    Hakiii - Heavens Tear Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I vote the site designers take a class from Kephras. b:chuckle
    Then proceed to beg him to make an ultra fabulous site design, that doesn't include animu, or fish.

    Okay maybe a teeny fish in the corner... b:avoid
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I vote the site designers take a class from Kephras. b:chuckle
    Then proceed to beg him to make an ultra fabulous site design, that doesn't include animu, or fish.

    Okay maybe a teeny fish in the corner... b:avoid

    Time to bump up this thread LOL
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    OP, your epically cool b:please I agree... REDESIGN THE THEME PLEASE. THE TUNA FESH HAVE TOO MUCH SPOT LIGHT b:angry

    Although I like one part of the theme... delicious fish swimming around when you start the game. Virtual food. My barb wants to eat some fish for lunch b:dirty
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  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    OP, your epically cool b:please I agree... REDESIGN THE THEME PLEASE. THE TUNA FESH HAVE TOO MUCH SPOT LIGHT b:angry

    Although I like one part of the theme... delicious fish swimming around when you start the game. Virtual food. My barb wants to eat some fish for lunch b:dirty

    LOL my barb is hungry too b:laugh
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i agree totally with you on this- and avoid the homepage entirely.

    when a neighbour wanted to start playing PWI, our son had to go over to his house ,and set it up for him, because the start page is so damn cluttered and confusing that he couldnt find how to get started. he kept clicking things that took him away from PWI/PWE completely. good going, guys...you really want to lose business by having links to every tom, **** and harry business? not smart.


    i miss the old contests....and not hearing who won them. guess letting people know who won a contest is not as important as having links to garbage.

    having a spot there to highlight screencaps is great.....but is it only to highlight just frankieraye's stuff? i know i sent in a ton of stuff, as good or better than what is presented, but still FR's pics take up most of the space. rather tacky, to have a GM/Mod's work presented under their work name, i think.


    there is so much that needs to be fixed- Jolly Old Jones boxes, for example- that have no chance of being fixed, because of PWEs attention being divided too many ways. please, do ONE game, and do it well, not a jillion, and doing them half baked, if you want to keep players happy.




    Reviving this discussion because, let's face it, we've heard nothing yet. And it still needs to be addressed.

    What was it, two months back? PWE decided to revamp the PWI website with "tideborn theme" and added a whole bucket of unnecessary and unrelated **** to the main page.
    Now we have a multi-game Profile system in place of our previous forum identity, and the main site is exactly the same - despite a poll conducted upon its unveiling that showed approximately two thirds of the userbase voting it down.

    Now, I realize there've been other pressing concerns - the DQ change, unleashing BOI on the public, and the rumored "bug fixes" that future updates might finally deliver [/skepticism]. Bottom line: yes, you've been busy, but this does still need fixing.
    Would you like me to redesign it, freelance?

    Here's my take on what's wrong. Most is copied from a previous post, but the Profile update seems to have remedied some minor complaints. Mayhaps a GM or admin will be kind enough to chime in with an update.

    This is in reference to the MAIN SITE of Perfect World International, pwi.perfectworld.com


    A game's main site is designed to draw new players in, with information & game content.
    It should present one, clear, undiluted message: "COME PLAY THIS GAME."
    The current design presents no clear message at all, except perhaps "Look, shiny!"


    Tideborn
    -...have been marketed to hell and back. But thank you for finally updating them to a "finished" status.
    -Re-integrate them with the original three races, or design (/request) new artwork featuring all four races equally. Perhaps, as per your game loading screens, a randomly cycling selection of artwork from the eight playable classes

    News | Game Info | etc.... menu block
    -The current design (black / white text / green highlighting) does not fit with any other content on the page, and resembles an XBox widget of some kind.
    -The sleek "techy" look should probably be replaced by something more befitting PWI's fantasy environment
    The colors should be revised to match page content, or at the very least something relating to PWI.
    Bottom Line: It currently resembles content from another company/site altogether.

    Login/Sign Up block
    A minor complaint - the login & account details are already available from the header at the top of the page.
    -Revise this section to simply offer a sign-up to the game, or hidden altogether if a registered account is logged in
    (A "Not [account]? Log in here!" line would be handy)

    News
    -This is the heart of your page. It says what is new and exciting about PWI.
    Make it larger, the focal point of your site. Include obvious links to past news & events (beyond a simple "more" button in the corner)

    Buzz Stream
    -The content you are presenting here is completely irrelevant to your product. It does nothing except distract visitors and redirect traffic AWAY from your site.
    If this section is to continue to exist at all, filter it for content relating exclusively to PWE - either media articles, info on other PWE products in development or release, etc.

    Screenshots/Wallpapers
    Remember that the main site constitutes PWI's "official" face to the internet community.
    While allowing user content to be posted is not in and of itself a bad thing, these two sections should be exclusively controlled by PWI.
    *If you are truly intent on featuring user content in these sections, perhaps make a contest of it, to present the best possible images as your "face of the game"
    The goal is to make the most favorable impression possible.
    *Corollary: Wallpapers - STILL tideborn-only. Give us a friggin' break already.

    Contests
    -Now missing, apparently. PWI no longer features contests/events as a subsection?

    Featured Videos
    Same problem as Buzz Stream: features content completely irrelevant to your game product, redirecting traffic and interest away from your site.
    -Eliminate non-PWE content. Feature videos that present your game in its best possible light, documentary vids on the game's development, and the like.
    -A link to PWI's youtube channel may also be appropriate, though once again remember that you do NOT want to redirect traffic away from your game

    Forum:
    Takes up the entire bottom half of the page. Featuring the community input is good, but not to excess. Also woefully outdated (apparently does not update dynamically?)
    Project Fashion is long over and done with, guys...
    Perhaps relegate it to a sidebar with the heading "Hot Topics" or somesuch; list the forum threads your moderators view most appropriate; end with a "Visit our forums!" link

    Missing Content:
    -Site is now missing the "Online/Offline" server box. This would have been the clearest indication that visitors have in fact arrived at a site for a GAME.

    In summary, it seems your web designers have forgotten that their site was for an MMORPG.
    Any of these sites represent a proper design ethos and I advise them to study each.
    [Linking other game sites is naughty, but google virtually any other MMO. You'll see.]

    There is no TL;DR, bullet-points are the best I can summarize.
    Constructive discussion encouraged.
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  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i agree totally with you on this- and avoid the homepage entirely.

    when a neighbour wanted to start playing PWI, our son had to go over to his house ,and set it up for him, because the start page is so damn cluttered and confusing that he couldnt find how to get started. he kept clicking things that took him away from PWI/PWE completely. good going, guys...you really want to lose business by having links to every tom, **** and harry business? not smart.


    i miss the old contests....and not hearing who won them. guess letting people know who won a contest is not as important as having links to garbage.

    having a spot there to highlight screencaps is great.....but is it only to highlight just frankieraye's stuff? i know i sent in a ton of stuff, as good or better than what is presented, but still FR's pics take up most of the space. rather tacky, to have a GM/Mod's work presented under their work name, i think.


    there is so much that needs to be fixed- Jolly Old Jones boxes, for example- that have no chance of being fixed, because of PWEs attention being divided too many ways. please, do ONE game, and do it well, not a jillion, and doing them half baked, if you want to keep players happy.

    I agree...bump this thread up again lol
  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Hey Kephras (a.k.a the cool barb that never QQs for nothing),

    That is a good set of remarks you made here. The current website design makes me want to get away from the main page more than anything. Browsing is just a pain and I had that feeling since it was implemented. The previous one was better imo. Why such unnecessary changes? I wonder.

    Oh why not put a nice flash design with a custom cursor or a desktop mate?
    Just kidding.

    Anyway, a good overhaul is needed.
    Maintenance time. Please choose a line:
    - When is it over? OMG I need my fix!! *super spazzing*
    - Fix the damn bugs, dammit! I'm so angry! I'll quit!!
    - New codes out there? I like free stuff~ *wink*
    - When will we get new content? QQ
    - Will we get sales? I got a ton of gold to spend.
    - I'm bored, I'll create a useless thread to annoy Opkorock.
    - *Incessant poking on Sweetiebot* Fun~
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    bumping for discussion during maint.b:cute
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Oh no, this isn't slinking off the main page and under the rug THAT easily.

    Or do I have to post a completely reworked example in .ZIP form before you'll take this seriously, PWE?
  • DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver
    DrazoThePsy - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    For the forums, fluid-width is a must, otherwise automatically resize all images to a clickable thumbnail.
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  • Quuenia - Heavens Tear
    Quuenia - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I agree with everything you said...please do something with this website. I can't convince RL friends to play PWI because they make themselves an oppinion about the game according to what they see on the main page. And they tell me: everywhere i look i see fishes...why only fishes? those are the only toons i can play with? i don't like the idea...so better forget about this game...It gets boring to tell them everytime that you can find elfes, untamed etc also but nobody cares about them anymore b:sad
    The colours are ugly, i can't browse many sections i would like to see because i get stucked, like on the ranking page, all i can see is the main page, it tells me "done but with errors on page"..."please shut down this page and wait for the site admin to finish his studies then he'll discover how a real page of a game should look like" b:angry
    Please, someone, read what the OP wrote there, change the page with showing all playable races, make it easyer to browse and, deal with "errors on page" issues that you're having, spare us the useless things that are filling the first page....etc etc......>.>
    I know this game will never be the same as it was a year ago or more...but at least the site should go back to being a USEFULL way of takeing contact with a game b:bye
  • _Elixira_ - Heavens Tear
    _Elixira_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    You know what would be really cool? That sparkly text you see on MySpace pages! j/k



    Kephras, right with you. I think you very concisely articulated the thoughts of many. I just avoid the homepage altogether, myself, for the reasons stated in the OP and in other posts.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    To bad the only thing that will happen is you'll hear "we are working on it" and it will never be changed.
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  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Kephras, I like your suggestions, and I've forwarded this thread to the higher ups. I am, however, moving the thread to the Suggestions forum where it belongs.


    Also, about this from FoxRunning:
    having a spot there to highlight screencaps is great.....but is it only to highlight just frankieraye's stuff? i know i sent in a ton of stuff, as good or better than what is presented, but still FR's pics take up most of the space. rather tacky, to have a GM/Mod's work presented under their work name, i think.


    Number 1, the images up under my name were only put up in the very beginning so that those tabs didn't launch blank. Also, the Fan Art that is under my name was not created by me; I just uploaded it. Those images was taken from previous contest submissions that I had kept on my HD.

    Number 2, we're somewhat selective about what images get approved to show up on the site, so if you've submitted stuff in the past and it hasn't gone up, don't lose hope, just keep submitting.

    Let me know if you guys have any other questions about this stuff b:bye
  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Kephras, I like your suggestions, and I've forwarded this thread to the higher ups.

    Nice to hear, but these are the same suggestions I submitted via ticket three months ago when the change first took place (with some minor alteration). And Xarfox already came out and said the folks doing site development aren't the same as the ones responsible for working on the game*, so the fact that this hasn't even been addressed as a concern in the time since is more than a little disconcerting. What was the final reading on that poll, 64% disapproval? That alone should've set up a screaming red flag right there.

    Pardon me though, if my ire seems directed at you - it's not. I do realize "passing on the message" is about the best you can do in this regard, and in that much I am grateful. Were it possible, I would love to take Upper Management and the web folks to task for allowing this... disaster to pass a quality check in the first place. As it stands, I'm limited to futile flaming on a forum they'll never read.

    *At least, in so far as the Profile system is concerned - I can only infer they're the same web development team responsible for the site change.
    Number 2, we're somewhat selective about what images get approved to show up on the site, so if you've submitted stuff in the past and it hasn't gone up, don't lose hope, just keep submitting.

    Actually very encouraging to know that those things are moderated. It was, after all, one of my chief complaints with the user-submission bit allowed on that section.

    Frankie, if you're passing on messages to web development, here are the three biggest and most serious concerns that need to be addressed:

    Buzz Stream
    -Needs to go, completely. Has no relevance to PWI at all, nor is Gizmodo under PWE's control. Having a live feed from an outside source is basically giving someone free reign to post whatever they like to your site.
    *EXAMPLE: what if they ran a story about how P2P MMOs are superior to F2P ones? Or that [new MMO/non-PWE game] is set to 'revolutionize the F2P market' or somesuch.

    Featured Videos
    -Feature PWI trailers, and maybe fanmade PWI stuff. Chinese sitcoms and anime have no place here.

    3rd-Party Site Ads
    -I disabled my ad-blocker long enough to see one of these, normally it's a blank spot on the page. But why is there one at all? PWE as a corporation has more than enough revenue to support its own website(s), placing ads on its pages is tacky. Additionally, I visited twenty other MMO sites (can't list 'em here, would be naughty), and NOT ONE had an ad on its page for anything other than its own game-related products (be they subscriptions, merchandise, game-cards, friend referrals, or other games created by that company). PWE's choice to implement ads is, quite simply, absurd.

    EDIT: Updated the OP for "prioritizing"
  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Epic musical bump
    Which is like a normal thread-bump, but with awesome tunes.
  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ..Apparently this is where "issues" go to die.
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    NO, this issue WILL NOT DIE.


    this game means too much, to too many people. the front page of this game is a monumental steaming pile of b:fatb, and is NOT the way to attract new players. is this why the remaining players are having every nickle and dime wrung out of us, because people coming to look over PWI cant make heads nor tails of all the garbage on the start page?

    WHEN will <whoever is in charge of the start page> get off their thumbs, flex their fingers, place them over their keyboard, and CLEAN UP THE b:fatb??



    ..Apparently this is where "issues" go to die.
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Holy ****.

    They actually fixed this.

    Not 100%, but it's still an improvement.