best Cub skills

Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »

1. I don't like to physical. I'm a vit/magic build and will soon restat to full magic. I'm lvling amp atm and have purge lvl 10 soul degeneration is something I try to lvl too. I lvl leech whenever I have some spare coin since it's just usefull skill. And I only go physical on increased magic resistance mobs. Why lvl the fox skills if I don't like physical? Because it's usefull in squads.

2. clerics can't remove all positive buffs from a target. Purge is used in TT 2-2, 2-3, 3-2, 3-3 as Toxic mentioned. If you don't purge, because you think it's 'not usefull' you give the cleric and barb huge bills, much more then you will pay just to lvl purge.

3. 14 spells huh? Fox form lvl 1 isn't expensive. you have to learn amp and purge. that's what? 3 skills? which make TT's go so much faster. In that way you can make that money back in no time. Noone will blame you for not learning leech, befuddeling mist or whatever. But amp and purge is what makes a veno wanted in squads.

Believe me, we're not trying to bully or annoy you. everyone can play their char the way they want to. But there are certain things people will expect from you. One of those things is that you can amp and purge bosses to make sure everything goes smoothly and fast.
I hope you'll just listen to our advice, will save you a lot of trouble later on.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No, you're NOT readin what we post, because you keep saying things like "I guess you all like physical attacks" when we KEEP saying that's not what we mean.

Amp damage increases ALL damage. So cast it, defox (which is instant) then throw your biggest damage spells (and everyone else in your squad will do the same)

It really doens't help anyone keep aggro.

And yes, we will say that you will fail because.. you're going to fail. Not QUITE as badly as a veno who doens't know how to lure will fail, or a cleric who doens't know how to heal, or to purify; but still pretty badly.



You can't have one. Sorry - the cub just doesn't deal enough damage to be a DD pet by any stretch of the imagination.

I think your best skill to attempt it will be fleshream, since I think even pet fleshream bleed damage is based mostly on a fixed number, rather than the pets attack skill.
That I want to resort to skills with a fixed number rather than a multiplier should be a hint as to quite how low the cubs attack is.

If you want to have a DD pet, then your best choices would be scorpions and the dark wanderer already mentioned. (And the firefox later on.) as well as the golems and the kowlin.
The wolves and cats are pretty good too - though more for their built-in skills than their stats.
And before tweakz fines me - I'll mention the eldergolth as a viable ranged pet of your level.

If you want a pet that can survive as the tank - the cub isn't actually terrible at that job. It has a good mdef and a not-bad pdef. But it realllllllly lacks attack power and so sucks mightily at the 'holding aggro' part of a tanks job.
The cookie-cutter answer of 'glacial walker' or the other golems (which you rightly say are similar, but just not as good) are, sadly, the right answer as physical tanks. They're just THAT much better than anything else.
You already rejected the beetle - which is kinda like a free version of the cub, thinking about it.
Next on the list... Humm.
How about the ermine? They're actually pretty good for defence and hit points, and pretty good for attack. Kinda middle of the road. It won't be as good as a walker, but it might be good enough. It's certainly faster!
You also see some veno's wandering around with hexwolves (the big two legged ones near your FB19) - I guess they must be good at something.

If you steal aggro unintentionally then you need a better tank. However, you can always reduce pet damage by right-clicking their active skill so that it doesn't auto-fire.
Generally, though, you want 3 or 4 bash variants on a pet to try its best to hold aggro.

Oh! The glacial has 'roar' doesn't it? Don't fire that. That will ALWAYS instantly steal aggro from ANYONE. It's really useful if the mob goes for the cleric - but save it until that happens. It's an unusually different skill from most.

There is only ONE pet-skill which is useful for keeping aggro on many mobs at once - and that is reflect. It's a rare skill, from the weekly event, and will cost you millions of coin.

Other than that - just keep switching between them and hit them all to keep them off the cleric - same as a barb does.
You don't have any AOE pet skills, sadly - our pet-roar is single target only.

As a side note: Grinding on much higher level monsters isn't always the fastest way to get coin. At your level, you might want to try the foxwing supremes -they drop slightly less stuff, but will die faster which makes up for it. Plus they won't aggro you if you choose the ones near the starter cities.

Yeah - I apologise for saying 'fail' first. But honestly - you're not listening to what we said. You need to prioritise amp higher than you are doing, and the pet you want to use for fashion reasons just isn't really a very effective pet.
I would personally rate amp slightly higher than noxious - but if you're doing a lot of AOE then sure, your ordering sounds ok. Just make sure you get it sometime fairly soon.
It REALLY shines in TT



You're an arcane, so you have a lot of mana - what you are mainly seeing is that foxform caps your max mana, and so the first time you transform that's a huge loss.
Yes, that's a PITA. But at the boss, you just have to bite the bullet and do it. You can't lose that top 20% of your mana bar a second time doing it. You'll want your mana to hover around the 50% mark.



That's a legitimate problem on bosses with an AOE attack, yes. Some bosses it isn't safe to amp unless the barb/BM is really on the ball with their cancels.