Stat points distribution: Help required!

sfhuda
sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Venomancer
What is the best build? I am level 14 and have only put 1 point in strength and 5 points in Intelligence so far.

If you have played Maple Story, there are builds like Lukless Mage and Agility-less thief. These are among the most powerful builds. Does PW have this kind of builds?
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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  • Vixennia - Raging Tide
    Vixennia - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    +1 to the above :)

    Also, there is no one best build for everyone. It depends on your play style/preferences.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Venomancer is much more forgiving of weird builds than other classes, but I really hope you have a lot of unallocated points to pump into mag (and a little into str) or you won't be able to equip a weapon or armor at your level for quite some time. Do a standard build for 20 or 30 levels before experimenting with the offbeat stuff.
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  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Change of query then.

    Is it possible to completely ignore STR state and maximize MAG stat for high damage? Is this build practical?
  • _Achaya_ - Harshlands
    _Achaya_ - Harshlands Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    No, its not :) To use better weapon and armor You need to put some points to STR (not much, like 1 point each 2 levels :) ), rest You can put to MAG it You wanna :)
  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Thanx a lot. Just to confirm; I can completely ignore AGI and VIT without having to restart game, right? Can I still solo bosses?

    Aiming for max damage and hoping to rely on my own agility to avoid damage. I have no current intentions to do PVP so I don't mind the extra vulnerability.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    After seeing the results of Ironwood->Amp->Tangling Mire->Melee, and coming across ☆Bracers of Blood Moon with: Interval Between Hits -0.1 seconds, and considering the Wing Trophy (Lunar) cape with the -aps, I'm contemplating some things.

    I'm a pure mag build and the bracers require:
    Str required 64
Dex required 64

    My Str is already 61 (w/equips) but my dex is only 15 (w/ current equips). The Lunar cape I believe has +6-7 str and dex (same as capes I already am using). There's the Rose's Thorn tome for +20dex. I'm wondering if I'd need to alter build to get the remaining dex. The Requiem Blade has +10-11dex with a Physical attack of 407-610 (unrefined) but the ☆☆Pataka of Melodic Prophecy has an attack rate of 1 while typical atk rate is 1.25! It also has excellent patk.

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  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If I remember correctly, one of the sticky Veno guides on this forum suggests that "pure-mage-veno build" should only be followed till level 60-70. I suppose it said so because of similar situation like the one you are in.

    Then again, I'm just a n00b. What do I know :)
  • Myvenoalt - Lost City
    Myvenoalt - Lost City Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    On my main Veno, my final goal is 55vit, 55str and rest mag build with vit gear / lots of citrines for more survivability.
    I use this character to post in the forum.
  • Sinalee - Dreamweaver
    Sinalee - Dreamweaver Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If u really want max dmg go for the "pure" mag build simply 9mag 1str every 2lvls. If u want a bit mroe hp (1vit = 10hp) then use this 1str 6-8mag and 3-1vit ever 2lvl.

    Best suggestion for pve

    For pvp u might wanna test LA or HA/AA build they shoudl be a pain to fight, but its not for beginners and got no specific build.

    u can easy go after max dmg and ignore ur low hp/def HP shard ur gear, and as an AA veno ur pet should be the one takign all the hits. So its not a problem, as long as u learn to control ur DPS comepared to pets DPS, so u don't pull aggro. ^^

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    Im a 2vit 7mag 1str veno, which i changed to at lvl 60 or so (used to be pure mag). Only reason i did this is cuz i have this darn habbit to grab agro of bosses and mobs if a squard wipe is nearb:shocked, so it simply makes me stand a bit longer b:surrender
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i love how i need 2 repeat myself yeah 1str 9mag is for pue human caster build.
    1/2 of what a venomancer is tho cos u wont we any good as a fox 1str each to lv wont get any good in.

    more balanced for the whole venomancer class is better fox have a lot of cool skill u wont
    we able 2 use but that u i guess
    i for one only lv up foxform and only giving hand (spark skill) as human fox rocksb:victory
    play fox if u wana we a pro
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    sfhuda wrote: »
    Change of query then.

    Is it possible to completely ignore STR state and maximize MAG stat for high damage? Is this build practical?

    COMPLETELY ignoring strength? It actually is possible.

    You will be heavily restricted as to the armour you can use - however, if you get enough rank, the rank gear has NO stat requirements to wear.

    For the early levels, you should be able to avoid ever getting hit anyway.

    The venomancer rank gear is ok, but there's not much of it - so you'd be really hurting in the end-game for certain bosses who have nasty AOE attacks.

    But it's not completely impossible. Still - you're looking at only 50 extra points of magic - maybe 500 extra magic attack?
    If you're really dedicated to dealing damage (and that's not really a veno's main role) you'd probably be better off looking at +crit (and so putting some points into dex) instead.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If you're really dedicated to dealing damage (and that's not really a veno's main role) you'd probably be better off looking at +crit (and so putting some points into dex) instead.

    It may not be our main role to some, but I don't see many wizzies or archers holding aggro very well. -Channeling is a more consistent and safer way to increase dps than crit, and dex is highly wasteful since we don't really care about evasion and don't need acc while mag provides more than just higher matk.
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  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I am in no mood to touch DEX because I noticed that MATK is base for a couple of other effects like healing pets.

    As for end game build, I fully intend to change the build to either LA or HA between 55 to 60. At lvl 21 if a mob so much as touches me, I have to RUN. I can only imagine loosing EXP if I draw aggro from a boss.

    When can I beat the first boss anyways in PWI? Soloing bosses is why I took a Veno as my first character.
  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    This DPS based aggro is new information for me. Does it mean that if instead of spamming spells, I heal the pet once every few seconds, I wont get the monster darting towards me at all?
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Aggro mechanics:
    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Aggro

    Or in short - if you do nothing but spamheal whilst your pet attacks - you are highly unlikely to pull aggro. (Only if your pets attack is incredibly weak would it happen - orif your pet isn't actually attacking)


    I first solo'd anything at level 34, though it's possible a few levels earlier. That was the boss in FB19.
    You'll start being able to solo bosses around your level once you hit your 40s. Assuming you have the hercules, and not all of them even then.

    and yes. Channel channel channel. -channel gear is great.
    But you can't get -channel from a stat.
  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Very informative link. Thank you.

    Under the "Heal Aggro" heading, they should also mention that it can also happen to Venos healing pets. Pet attacks a mob. 3 mob friends run towards pet. You call back pet to save his hide. 3 mob friends target you. YOU RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! No point in running if they have range attack and they are close by. You are DEAD!

    Pardon my n00bness because I have to ask; What is channel?
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    sfhuda wrote: »
    Very informative link. Thank you.

    Under the "Heal Aggro" heading, they should also mention that it can also happen to Venos healing pets. Pet attacks a mob. 3 mob friends run towards pet. You call back pet to save his hide. 3 mob friends target you. YOU RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! No point in running if they have range attack and they are close by. You are DEAD!

    Pardon my n00bness because I have to ask; What is channel?

    Yeah - healing is healing, whether its a person or a pet.

    Channel is the time on each skill between you hitting the button and the skill animation properly starting up - the time with a big coloured ring under your feet.
    Specifically, here, it refers to gear which reduces that time, by 3% for each piece. Which isn't much - but it adds up to quite a decent improvement.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    COMPLETELY ignoring strength? It actually is possible.

    You will be heavily restricted as to the armour you can use - however, if you get enough rank, the rank gear has NO stat requirements to wear.

    For the early levels, you should be able to avoid ever getting hit anyway.

    The venomancer rank gear is ok, but there's not much of it - so you'd be really hurting in the end-game for certain bosses who have nasty AOE attacks.

    But it's not completely impossible. Still - you're looking at only 50 extra points of magic - maybe 500 extra magic attack?
    If you're really dedicated to dealing damage (and that's not really a veno's main role) you'd probably be better off looking at +crit (and so putting some points into dex) instead.

    You'd also be pretty much limited to level 1 magic weapons (magic weapons take str to equip, too, and I don't think there's any no-req weapons) so you'd lose more magic attack than you'd gain.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Strength can come from equips. Sky Demon's Pearl +8str, Tome of Ironwill +7 Str, Event Robes +7str, a few rings, a belt, etc and you can get your minimum requirement. Beamhoof Slicer only takes 49str, Nirvana's have lower requirements, one of my weapons comes with str+6. Never used the 9-1 rule and glad I didn't.
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  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Isn't the stuff you are mentioning hard to get?
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Aside from the Beamhoof Slicer and Nirvana stuff no, all could be earned in a day.
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  • sfhuda
    sfhuda Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Any chance you could list those ITEM NAMES only? Rest can be searched from a database.

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