Perfect World Doing Good
Euphy - Dreamweaver
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I just want to thank the Perfect World team for coming up with a super awesome Event!
I love the Nien Beast attacks!!! Its pure plain, no pressure fun! Also, it doesn't require any charging: no one can complain. Thank you so much!
Also a special shout out to the quick fix for the fashion glitches! So many people on these forums seem to hate this game and complain about all sorts of problems (and generally blow them out of proportion). I'm happy to see that you're proving them all wrong by churning out patches and cool in-game events!
I love the Nien Beast attacks!!! Its pure plain, no pressure fun! Also, it doesn't require any charging: no one can complain. Thank you so much!
Also a special shout out to the quick fix for the fashion glitches! So many people on these forums seem to hate this game and complain about all sorts of problems (and generally blow them out of proportion). I'm happy to see that you're proving them all wrong by churning out patches and cool in-game events!
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To quote a very good film... "my sentiments exactly" nice job PW team[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]<- tyvm to ForsakenX for the sig,
ur work
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Clerics are not your slaves, we do not exist to do your bidding. We also have names. Saying please does not take a lot of typing. I react very badly to being yelled at. Please do not do it.
Its rather sad when people automatically assume you are a guy just because you are playing a veno....
Live life to its fullest, learn from your mistakes, and most importantly, have fun. b:victory0 -
Did the event today, was great - probably the first truly well planned and executed event in PWI history.
Its very spread out so it doesn't lag like hell, and the rewards are very nice. The data collection across the server is impressive. Its also short - some 20 mins of work. The random cont number addition at the end allows lower level players get some items too if they are lucky.
My only complaint is the timing. 4pm, 9pm server time is very good for the USA... but for Europe its not, where the second round happens at about 5 am.
Could have moved it 1-2 hours forward imo.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Oh yea, this event really makes up for all the stupid stuff they've added and done that has hurt the game AND the players.
/sarcasm b:scornThere's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
It's a perfectly sad world.0 -
Oh yea, this event really makes up for all the stupid stuff they've added and done that has hurt the game AND the players.
/sarcasm
Atleast be grateful for what they do get right.
2 rights don't make a wrong after all (or whatever the saying was)The chillum is sometimes referred to as a chalice, based on a quote from the Biblical book of Deuteronomy. Thanks and praises are offered to Jah before smoking the chillum.0 -
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Islamey - Dreamweaver wrote: »Atleast be grateful for what they do get right.
2 rights don't make a wrong after all (or whatever the saying was)
It's hard to be grateful for the "rare" thing they get right when all the stupid stuff they implement is meant to make things harder for a specific and very targeted audience that you are a part of. That's the non-cash shoppers!
As I said somewhere else, this game is quite literally becoming P2P. It's voluntary, but unless you spend real money, you aren't going to get anywhere w/o spending ungodly amounts of time in the game. Many of us, maybe most, don't have that kind of time to put into a game.There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
It's a perfectly sad world.0 -
PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's hard to be grateful for the "rare" thing they get right when all the stupid stuff they implement is meant to make things harder for a specific and very targeted audience that you are a part of. That's the non-cash shoppers!
Its better to take 2 steps back and 1 step forward than 3 backwards. It doesn't cover up their other failures but at least it shows that they can do it right. Only complaining when they do so is simply churlish.As I said somewhere else, this game is quite literally becoming P2P. It's voluntary, but unless you spend real money, you aren't going to get anywhere w/o spending ungodly amounts of time in the game. Many of us, maybe most, don't have that kind of time to put into a game.
Just FYI = I play about 30 min to 1hr per day - just to run BHs. My monthly ingame income is ~60m, and increasing as I gather more capital. I hope to make my first billion next pack sale. You don't need to play to get money; simply know what to merchant and when. The last time I charged zen was over a year ago and my total spending is below $50.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Its better to take 2 steps back and 1 step forward than 3 backwards. It doesn't cover up their other failures but at least it shows that they can do it right. Only complaining when they do so is simply churlish.
Just FYI = I play about 30 min to 1hr per day - just to run BHs. My monthly ingame income is ~60m, and increasing as I gather more capital. You don't need to play to get money; simply know what to merchant and when. The last time I charged zen was over a year ago and my total spending is below $50.
ok so you play 30 minutes a day to run your bh's and you do nothing else and your ingame income is 60 mil.. I call BULL...
You can not just run a bh and get money.. however what you leave out is that you are merchanting. Thats how u make money.. but umm.. isn't the point of this game to play it? I mean otherwise, why are you earning all this money?
Its either total bull or totally stupid... I don't get it.0 -
OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »ok so you play 30 minutes a day to run your bh's and you do nothing else and your ingame income is 60 mil.. I call BULL...
You can not just run a bh and get money.. however what you leave out is that you are merchanting. Thats how u make money.. but umm.. isn't the point of this game to play it? I mean otherwise, why are you earning all this money?
Its either total bull or totally stupid... I don't get it.
All I can say is that people have very different playstyles. I earn my money for the same reason as most other endgamers do. Once I have what I need, of course my playtime will increase.
However the point was that its possible to make good money without spending hundreds of dollars on the game, or hours farming. I'm a bit of an extreme case; you do not need to spend 23 hours a day merchanting - even 7-8 hours while you sleep can get you enough cash to get very good gear, provided you are careful and know the market well enough.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's hard to be grateful for the "rare" thing they get right when all the stupid stuff they implement is meant to make things harder for a specific and very targeted audience that you are a part of. That's the non-cash shoppers!
As I said somewhere else, this game is quite literally becoming P2P. It's voluntary, but unless you spend real money, you aren't going to get anywhere w/o spending ungodly amounts of time in the game. Many of us, maybe most, don't have that kind of time to put into a game.
+1
it is hard to say thanks for doing the right thing rarely0 -
All I can say is that people have very different playstyles. I earn my money for the same reason as most other endgamers do. Once I have what I need, of course my playtime will increase.
However the point was that its possible to make good money without spending hundreds of dollars on the game. I'm a bit of an extreme case; you do not need to spend 23 hours a day merchanting - even 7-8 hours while you sleep can get you enough cash to get very good gear, provided you are careful and know the market well enough.
But you're still not getting the point. This isn't about making money in-game.
Why does everyone think that it's all about how much "coins" you have or can make?
Bah! I think this community, as a whole, is a lost cause.There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
It's a perfectly sad world.0 -
Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »+1
it is hard to say thanks for doing the right thing rarely
Thank you! b:thanksThere's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
It's a perfectly sad world.0 -
PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »But you're still not getting the point. This isn't about making money in-game.
Why does everyone think that it's all about how much "coins" you have or can make?
Bah! I think this community, as a whole, is a lost cause.
This is what you said:It's voluntary, but unless you spend real money, you aren't going to get anywhere w/o spending ungodly amounts of time in the game.
I simply commented that you are mistaken.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
That's only true if the yardstick you use to measure your progress is comparison with other players (mainly, those who spend RL cash). PvP excepted, aside from a few essentials which must be purchased from the cash shop because so few cat shops sell it (e.g. inventory extension stone), this game completely playable without spending a single dollar. If anything, it has gotten easier. Legendary mold and TT mat prices are way down and availability way up, there are regular double exp/double drop events while NPC prices have remained fixed, tokens are so widespread they've become a de facto third currency which makes a ton of stuff much cheaper than they used to be, and the triple BH makes leveling almost trivial.PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »As I said somewhere else, this game is quite literally becoming P2P. It's voluntary, but unless you spend real money, you aren't going to get anywhere w/o spending ungodly amounts of time in the game. Many of us, maybe most, don't have that kind of time to put into a game.
So if you were to compare a group of 4-5 friends who simply play with each other without spending RL cash, they would have a much easier time starting to play the game now than if they'd started playing in late 2008. The only reason things seem to have gotten harder is people keep trying to compare their characters to other people's characters. I dunno about you, but I measure how good a game is by how much enjoyment I get out of it, not how easy/hard it is for me to make my character more 1337 than somebody else's.
PvP is the exception because by definition a PvPer has to compare his character to other players'. But I've always asserted that PvP in an RPG is pretty silly. People want to brag that they're more skillful than other players, not that they have played more hours, or got luckier, or spent more $$$. If you want to PvP, play an FPS where all the characters are pretty much the same and the biggest determining factor is player skill.
Stop worrying about how well decked out your character is compared to other players. Set goals for yourself and work on achieving them. RPGs are about the journey, not the destination. The only person you're in competition with is yourself.0 -
This is what you said:
I simply commented that you are mistaken.
There is MORE to this game than making in-game coins. Cash shopping to make coins isn't what I was referring to.
Use the brain God gave you and figure it out for yourself.There's no such thing as a "Perfect World" full of Jade, diamonds, gold, and other riches and treasures. There is only an imperfect world, with an imperfect society, full of imperfect people, with imperfect idea's about how to be perfectly rich and perfectly perfect. No one cares about being perfectly kind, perfectly fair, or perfectly content.
It's a perfectly sad world.0 -
YEah money is not everything if you not rushing lv . . or have urge need for mount, aerocraft, manufacture, gears, and fashion.
I am always impressed when my friend say they will stay at that lv until their other friend catch up.
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Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
Use search, it was your best friends to avoid many suffering in internet...0 -
Actually this event is still unfair to the non-cash shoppers. I am pretty sure top 10 of any class are most likely squadded with someone with 5 attack per second which is easily obtainable if you cash shop.Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »Actually this event is still unfair to the non-cash shoppers. I am pretty sure top 10 of any class are most likely squadded with someone with 5 attack per second which is easily obtainable if you cash shop.
That's definitely not the case for everyone.
I've been in the top 10 for my class all 4 events so far (as have my friends that I've squadded with, and none of them have 5 attack per second), and none of us cash shop or spend RL money whatsoever.Katzyn, level 101 Demon Veno
Kylenea, level 99 Demon Cleric
ForestSonata, level 6x Mystic
Proud wifeh of Yudai
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PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »It's hard to be grateful for the "rare" thing they get right...
+2
I have to somewhat agree to this, giving us **** for more than a year with bugs/glitches, lack of (good) events and false promises and making a "decent" event that will probably be gone in a month or 2 isn't really gona cut it.
If they'd had gone and fix the more prominent bugs/glitches, I'd be much more happy.
Also... You have to realize that Fashion is one of the largest incomes for PWI, so it's natural for them to immediately fix it, and as we can see, a fix within 24hours...
You sure don't see a quick fix like that with any other bug, whether it be simple or complex; we've had bugs/glitches since PWI was released and all that time we've been told is they're working to get them fixed, but hell it's nearly 2years and they've been throwing in more bugs/glitches.0 -
Actually this event is still unfair to the non-cash shoppers. I am pretty sure top 10 of any class are most likely squadded with someone with 5 attack per second which is easily obtainable if you cash shop.
Contribution isn't shared.
Also I'm lvl 84 with no -int gears and I've placed in to top 20 every event, so I don't see the unfairness. Its usually the peopel who are unfamiliar with the event who dont get a reward.The chillum is sometimes referred to as a chalice, based on a quote from the Biblical book of Deuteronomy. Thanks and praises are offered to Jah before smoking the chillum.0 -
This is what you said:PunkinKatt - Heavens Tear wrote: »As I said somewhere else, this game is quite literally becoming P2P. It's voluntary, but unless you spend real money, you aren't going to get anywhere w/o spending ungodly amounts of time in the game. Many of us, maybe most, don't have that kind of time to put into a game.I simply commented that you are mistaken.
But in a way your are spending ungodly amounts of time in game. Your leaving your computer running 24/7 to buy and sell items. Not everyone can or wants to do that. And your probably spending an hours or so a day checking cat shops and auctions house and getting feel for the market.0 -
Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's only true if the yardstick you use to measure your progress is comparison with other players (mainly, those who spend RL cash). PvP excepted, aside from a few essentials which must be purchased from the cash shop because so few cat shops sell it (e.g. inventory extension stone), this game completely playable without spending ....
Want to comment that this is the best and most mature reply to a post on the cash shop subject that I have seen (so far). I would like to add some comments and hopefully can have a small part of this poster's eloquence in doing so.
Anyway, here goes.
Businesses exist to make a profit. PWI is a business. With businesses come expenses: server equipment, IP costs, salaries, overhead, etc... There are only a few ways that I can think of for a game like this to make money.
1) Charge a subscription fee. Many games use this model. The fee is involuntary and I usually find that the only way to progress to high levels in them is get into the uber guild and stand in line for drops.
2) Micro transactions (PWI's model). Fees are voluntary but progress is available to the casual player. Mainly those who don't get into uber guilds and/or like to solo and mostly play with friends. Of course, this opens doors to the heavy cash players.
Here is the fork in the road. In PvP it circumvents the "spirit" of the game - basically, you work hard, take your beatings, and earn your stuff. In PvE (except for TWs), who really cares? You could own the smallest house in the neighborhood, but you don't get penalized because neighbors have 1000 more sq ft.
3) Advertising - The Google-style model. Google maps is free but you are going to get push pins locating every nearby McDonalds and Holiday Inns when you make a map.
If PWI used this model I can see the following: "This BH is brought to you by Geico - please fill out the survey before you can enter the instance".
As pointed out before, you can progress in this game without spending $. The road is long and rocky, but can be done. However, most players are not that patient - that's how we got anniversary packs.
So, if you want to play the game for free, never pay a cent, and get the best stuff how do you propose that PWI meet it's expenses? I don't think the government stimulus money will cover this - LOL.
Progress fast, get good stuff, and don't spend money - pick any 2 of these three and omit the other.Since when did the word "fail" change from a verb to an adjective? A character can "fail" (as a verb) or be a "failed" character (as an adjective), but there is no such thing as a "fail" character.
If "Barb" (not "arian") is short for Barbarian and "Veno" (not "mancer") is short for Venomancer then shouldn't we be calling Assassins something other than "sins"?0 -
necrokitty - Harshlands wrote: »but In A Way Your Are Spending Ungodly Amounts Of Time In Game. Your Leaving Your Computer Running 24/7 To Buy And Sell Items. Not Everyone Can Or Wants To Do That. And Your Probably Spending An Hours Or So A Day Checking Cat Shops And Auctions House And Getting Feel For The Market.
Dont Forget The Players That Farm For Months Just So They Can Gain Some Mil To Survive....
Got My Drift Everyone?
I Hope U Farmers Sold Your Items Before This Unrequired Dq Price Drop!0 -
The problem is that PWI's main fun factor comes from progress, and progress slows down alot at late levels. One of the main factors here is the missing scability of coins.
Yes, income raises slightly as you level up, but so do your costs. Costs start to exceed your income at one point, and in order to keep up, you have to go out of your way, to a point where you are grinding all he time while not doing what you like, only to be able to afford what you like. This is frustrating. There may be other ways, like merchanting, but face it, the majority of players doesn't like to play that way. How I can tell? Read someof the popular forum threads or just listen to your faction chat and ask around how people make coins.
When they nerfed DQ NPC-buy-price by 20%, they boosted the frustration. Adding packs to the boutique leads to raising gold prices, which also adds frustration. See a trend here?
Now, things like this work to a certain degree for players. Some can take more, some less frustrating game elements. Personally, my point was reached before the DQ nerf. With nerfed DQs, this game will become unplayable for me - what I really mean is, I will not have fun playing PWI anymore - until they actually compensate. ATM I'm not sure if I will just return to my old P2P game or give it another week or two for them to fix.
What I do know, however, is that I won't spend any more RL money on this until the strain is lessened.0 -
Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »Actually this event is still unfair to the non-cash shoppers. I am pretty sure top 10 of any class are most likely squadded with someone with 5 attack per second which is easily obtainable if you cash shop.
Actually, I have never cash shopped, and I managed to get into the top 10 of my class (okay, it was rank 10 exactly). Sure, you can say it's because I am on the new server, but you obviously know as well a lot of Assassins are at higher levels than me already, especially since I only reached 71 yesterday and have been on Archosaur since the server started. Mostly, those would be people in Narla and Impulse, as well as people in my own faction, Enemy. For all three events, I've made it into the top 12 of my class.
Will someone with better gear (cash shoppers) be better ranked? Yes, but remember, they earned that right by keeping this game alive. If you don't cash shop, don't complain about what they do with it because you aren't doing anything to keep this game running, except perhaps providing a market for cash shoppers to sell to. All you ever hear on these forums is that the game is so hard and that cash shoppers have an easier time, but being that they are paying real money for the game, allowing PWE to make money from it, yes, they deserve to have it easier if that is what they pay for.
So, if you don't want to cash shop, and you don't want to actually work for everything you get, then leave the game. I struggle, I don't make that much money in game, and I suck at merchanting. However, I keep playing, and I manage to get by with some pretty nice gear. If I want something, I save up, grind a lot, sell all the mats I get, etc. If I can do it (and believe me, I'm lazy when it comes to doing this stuff), then I'm pretty sure any other person can. Say I have a lot of time? I'm a full time college student working full time and I make time to spend 3-4 days a week with my girlfriend. If I can do that, I'm quite sure most of the player base can as well.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Didn't get the rest of it, but apparently I am the "destroyer of sin haters" as well.0
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