Tidebourne's Greatest Edge

Zetsulight - Dreamweaver
Zetsulight - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Arigora Colosseum
do you guys now believe with the new tidebourne moves that have came out make them now better and more powerful than all the other races. if so should be have a balance giving the other races new moves also?b:surrender
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    rofl.


    Just to give this thread more comments of possible humorous flame:



    Go watch a lvl 100 Pure Fist BM with Niravana vs lvl 100 Pure Dex Sin with Niravana fight each other and see who is the winner.


    I'm willing to give 10mil that the BM will kill the sin faster then he can stealth.
  • Sint - Harshlands
    Sint - Harshlands Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    rofl.


    Just to give this thread more comments of possible humorous flame:



    Go watch a lvl 100 Pure Fist BM with Niravana vs lvl 100 Pure Dex Sin with Niravana fight each other and see who is the winner.


    I'm willing to give 10mil that the BM will kill the sin faster then he can stealth.

    shadow teleport, then stealth. you just lost 10m.

    i've seen endgame sin vs barb fights last seconds - single digits. sin won.

    also, moron.nobody uses full nirvana gear with a fast weapon. why not? i'm fairly certain nirvana doesnt give HH99 bonuses. it has its own. any competent sin/bm would be using 2 pieces of HH99 armor, at least. cloak wouldnt be nirvana either, since, as far as i know, lunar energetic cant be recast.

    here's how the fight would likely go, if both were geared up for permaspark and start out with some distance between them and no chi.

    sin kites with windpush, pops harmony, uses his antistun, then port-stuns the bm. he casts RDS while the bm is still stuned, followed by tackling slash. both start hitting each other at, say 4 aps. dmg is comparable: bm wastes more stats on dex, and fists have about 30% less weapon dmg, whereas sin has a full dex build, crits loads, and the weapon dmg, paired with his larger dex multiplier make up for the difference. (and if the sin has demon maze steps, your bm should be missing quite a bit)

    The real difference, in terms of dmg, is the fact that the sin is antistunned, just got a pair of free shots at the bm, and most importantly, is already at 2 sparks again. with the same 4 aps on both, the sin is going to reach 3sparks in 5 seconds. The bm, at the moment the stun wears, is still 15 seconds away from his demon spark.

    result, bm gets demon sparked upon with 10 seconds to go for his own demon spark (12 seconds if the sin has demon stun) your bm just got *****.
  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    rofl.


    Just to give this thread more comments of possible humorous flame:



    Go watch a lvl 100 Pure Fist BM with Niravana vs lvl 100 Pure Dex Sin with Niravana fight each other and see who is the winner.


    I'm willing to give 10mil that the BM will kill the sin faster then he can stealth.


    ...Yeah because there are only 2 classes in PWI that should be mentioned and compared against each other when we argue about endgame pvp balance b:embarrass

    Pretty sure a 35k-40k hp barb might not drop very fast against a sin either, even if the sin has +50 attack lvl or 5 aps. Anti stun invoke and go take a **** and come back, pop solid shield, new chi for invoke again and u still alive and go make coffey. No class can really solo endgame barbs easily.

    Does that mean assassins are very balanced, b/c there are 2 classes in the game they cant roll "extremely easy"?

    I would also not bet 10 mil on the BM, only thing that talks for him is that he has better phy def and hp (no clue if its smart to marrow against a sin tho, most use wood apoc pot for dps and bramble rage probably hurts if u crit with rage buff on phy marrow). Bms do have more stuns and can switch to axe for dragon.

    But daggers have higher base dmg than fists and assassins can get 5 aps to. But a 5 aps sin will crit a lot more, hit harder and crit waaay harder than any BM. I would say the outcome is 50/50 depending on the players.

    So of course tideborns have better moves than old classes, they where created to keep players interested n the game so it had to bring something new and better fast - came out a bit sloppy. But who hasn't ditched their old main for a fish already?
  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Go watch a lvl 100 Pure Fist BM with Niravana vs lvl 100 Pure Dex Sin with Niravana fight each other and see who is the winner.


    I'm willing to give 10mil that the BM will kill the sin faster then he can stealth.

    Wrong lol, a Sin evades a lot of hits actually.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    ...Yeah because there are only 2 classes in PWI that should be mentioned and compared against each other when we argue about endgame pvp balance b:embarrass

    Pretty sure a 35k-40k hp barb might not drop very fast against a sin either, even if the sin has +50 attack lvl or 5 aps. Anti stun invoke and go take a **** and come back, pop solid shield, new chi for invoke again and u still alive and go make coffey. No class can really solo endgame barbs easily.

    Does that mean assassins are very balanced, b/c there are 2 classes in the game they cant roll "extremely easy"?

    I would also not bet 10 mil on the BM, only thing that talks for him is that he has better phy def and hp (no clue if its smart to marrow against a sin tho, most use wood apoc pot for dps and bramble rage probably hurts if u crit with rage buff on phy marrow). Bms do have more stuns and can switch to axe for dragon.

    But daggers have higher base dmg than fists and assassins can get 5 aps to. But a 5 aps sin will crit a lot more, hit harder and crit waaay harder than any BM. I would say the outcome is 50/50 depending on the players.

    So of course tideborns have better moves than old classes, they where created to keep players interested n the game so it had to bring something new and better fast - came out a bit sloppy. But who hasn't ditched their old main for a fish already?

    now with their new skill to add 50% water damage or so marrow = b:bye
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  • Sint - Harshlands
    Sint - Harshlands Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    This guy is probably stuck in awe at bm stunlock.

    While Stun + 5aps demon fist would likely **** anything, a sin is very likely to avoid it. Tidal protection makes them evade ailments 50% of the time.

    Also, a 5aps sin can ulti and recover enough chi for the next spark. (Harmony-Ulti-RDS, in any order)
  • ShadowX - Raging Tide
    ShadowX - Raging Tide Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    for the bm v sin:
    Rib strike.

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