Whats an good strategy for fighting against psychics

Katozuma - Raging Tide
Katozuma - Raging Tide Posts: 61 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Archer
I duel all classes (when i get the time and ) I find a lot harder dueling psychics than bms barbs and sin. Is there a way to fight and psychic with buffs(immunity buff and etc). I tried winged shell and wings of grace but the damage is still heavy. Also is there any attack or genie skill will making dueling them easier

I know its a noobie question
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  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Once the duel starts they'll probably buff with soul of stunning and whatnot, so I suggest kiting the first few seconds then attack when they're in cooldown. They're squishy without defences =3
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    vs phys imume skil: metal skils

    vs reflect shields: hard hitting skils instead of fast hits

    vs soul burn: run and don't use a single skil
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  • HarmieX - Heavens Tear
    HarmieX - Heavens Tear Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Best strategy is just to let us beat you. b:victory
  • Daose - Harshlands
    Daose - Harshlands Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Best strategy? Don't fight em.

    Seriously though, I have no idea. There are just too many counters a psychic can come up with versus an archer. You'd probably have to just kill them as fast as possible. If you catch us in black voodoo we go down pretty fast. Be extremely wary of soulburn though.
  • Ksir - Raging Tide
    Ksir - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i find it really hard to duel them too. I guess you always try spam clicking on stunning arrow and hope it procs cause if it does then you basically have won. Try using wings of grace first that way they cant stun you. If they use their phys resist skill then just use your metal debuff and just use metal skills.
  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Cyanea - Lost City wrote: »
    Archers should stay out of range of psychics. Soulburn, for example, has 20.4 meters range.

    If I were an archer and a hostile psychic was in range, I would holy path out of range, and then take action from there. You have a couple defensive skills to deal with their stuns and reflected damage. You have a couple skills that can keep them from moving and possibly keep them from attacking for a bit.

    Meanwhile, if you let them get close, you have mostly lost the battle already.



    A lot of people seems to not understand that most of those archer skills (defense and anti stuns) requires a lot of chi. If you have to use any combination of those defense skills and run out of chi, you are fighting a lost battle.

    Winged shell - 45 chi (survive 1-2 hits in PVP but still takes damage)
    Wings of grace - 1 spark (learned at lvl 59)
    Aim low - 1 spark
    Elvan Alacrity - 1 spark (learned at lvl 79)

    I got attacked by a sin today in cube, who just popped out of no where and chain stunned me before I can cast a defensive skill. I had to use over 3 of my spark for defensive skills, genie (expel), and pots just to get away. These new classes are over powered, and as someone mentioned the best strategy is to "don't fight them" one on one.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i'd say that archers are not as dependent on chi to kill someone than some of the other classes (say a bm or wiz)

    if you lack the offensive power to kill someone without chi you can't kill him with chi, because generally you won't be able to spark and just hit people. you don't have skills like HF or sutra. chi is used to defend yourself and buy you chances - chances to do your combo again and again and hope for the right number of crits. of course it's bad if you use all your chi in one attempt, but that's not what was advocated here.
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  • Astrohawke - Lost City
    Astrohawke - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You can't beat same level psychics in duels. They can 2-3 shot you easily and while you may be able to do the same, they start the duel with soul of stunning and psychic will which will stop you from doing so long enough to destroy you.

    PK is a different story though. Psychics are really easy to kill when they're not ready for it.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    meh...its like when a veno uses hood and then tries to chain stun w/ phoenix. you can run and block the stuns/bleed but that veno in hood is going to outlast you

    that's just how duels are.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    lol these treads

    Always a little army of lvl 50-70 psychics or sins going "YOU CANT BEAT US CUZ THAN I ADJUSTATTACK LVL AND MEGA SOULBURNSUPERMAN COMBO AND MARVELLAZOR EARTH NUKE BLEED AND U GET 2 SHOOT CUZ I HIT ZIMO IN FB59 FOR 80K NO CRIT b:bye"

    Dont know that much about high lvl physics but apply same rules for psychics as for any other strong caster as archer - dont think for a sec that you can tank their spells at all, than you die.

    If they hit you once its one hit to much, kite, shield, WoG, genie, pvp-posts. Use the range benefits you have as archer and try to stun + crit kill them before they get close enough to molest. You pretty much always have to run out of their attack range as soon as they start nuking you, than sneak back and try get stun of before they hit you again. If they use soul burn on you than you better hurry the hell out of range til it wears of <.<

    Overall fishies and BMs kinda own in duels due to class. So it doesn't really mean anything if you loose as archer.
  • Trobneziuq - Dreamweaver
    Trobneziuq - Dreamweaver Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    dont duel them.. just pk them
  • Noob - Raging Tide
    Noob - Raging Tide Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Click on Psy -> Press F1 or whatever ur normal attack is...works for me o.O
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  • Relakss - Harshlands
    Relakss - Harshlands Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    when duel psy holypath far away wait till they get close use wings of grace n stun them if you time it right you resist their stun if using it stun them and normal shot killb:victory

    works for me that way i can even beat higher lvl psy in duels
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »
    lol these treads

    Always a little army of lvl 50-70 psychics or sins going "YOU CANT BEAT US CUZ THAN I ADJUSTATTACK LVL AND MEGA SOULBURNSUPERMAN COMBO AND MARVELLAZOR EARTH NUKE BLEED AND U GET 2 SHOOT CUZ I HIT ZIMO IN FB59 FOR 80K NO CRIT b:bye"

    LOL!b:laugh
    So funny because it's true.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »

    Always a little army of lvl 50-70 psychics or sins going "YOU CANT BEAT US CUZ THAN I ADJUSTATTACK LVL AND MEGA SOULBURNSUPERMAN COMBO AND MARVELLAZOR EARTH NUKE BLEED AND U GET 2 SHOOT CUZ I HIT ZIMO IN FB59 FOR 80K NO CRIT b:bye"

    Exactly just like every 8x+ psychic*that i meet* most of them saying how big was the damage or how big was the critical.
    (just like what archer and wizard player say except psy also has soulforce to brag)

    Its tiresome to hearing people brag about those, but usually they just too excited.
    Well sometimes for barb its the arma damage . .
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  • Oniwabanchu - Archosaur
    Oniwabanchu - Archosaur Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    My personal opinion is.. JUST DONT DUEL THEM... to many skillz to set it on u before duel start.. thats provide them an advantage.. i dont duel against Tideborns.. i AMBUSH THEM! for example, today i ambushed a psychic lvl 79 charmed... HE DIED IN 3 SHOTS! cuz he was not expecting an attack... but at least on PK or PVP archers and sins has more evasion rate so its different, so as i said... AMBUSH THEM! AND PWNED THEM! i still saying that the most harder enemies of archers are BM
    PK 4ever! if u dont like to be pwned, ambushed or ganked... STAY BLUE AND DONT QQme

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