Major rant? >_>

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

Before I say anything, I know the general response to this will either be a 'QQ more you noob' or a 'This has already been stated, kthxbai,' but they will be kindly met with a 'If you don't like it, don't read it.' >_>

You have been warned...

Basically, the status of Lost City server makes me very sadface. Nowadays, I log on just to see a bunch of carebears talking trash on World Chat calling someone a noob for PKing them, the constant inflation as it continues to rise, or the typical troll or two. And all I can really say is, "This is freaking ridiculous," followed by a '>_>' face. But, that's not exactly what I'm here for. In my honest opinion, I sort of wish things were the way they were when I was a low level. Before everybody was QQ-ing over being PKed constantly and threatening to 'report you to a GM' for only getting killed once (Or if they started it, and can't finish it.) Before everybody had +12 gear and were powerleveling through oracles and hyper stones for an extra 5 stat points per level. Before everybody was all about calling somebody a fail just because they don't spend thousands of dollars on the game. Trust me, if this server went back to how things were back in that time, this game would be so much more interesting.

Enough about the "I wish" moment. The inflation makes me sick. 'nuff said. I'll let you figure out what I mean on that one.

But my main disappointment is that Lost City is a PvP server and yet we have little to no PvP going on. I often find myself aimlessly flying the map, looking for some rpk, but the map almost looks empty. Aside from blue-names and all of the people sitting in Safe Zone. Thanks Lost City for crushing my plan of going blood red at 90 and staying there, like when I was 7x, one-shotting 9xs. >_> And, when there is any PvP going on, it's always at West Gate or Silver Pool. But it's always the same exact people (Spectral and Essence always at West, for example.) Tends to get boring after a while. Either that or you kill one person, and they call more people to the point where 1 v 1 turns to 14+ people being called for 2. Overkill much?

Off of the PvP topic, though. What is this sudden **** about a veno being required to have a herc to be accepted into a squad. There are a few instances that I can understand the veno needing a herc, such as GV or soloing HH, but needing a herc to run Frost, or getting invited on a HH, but getting rejected due to not having a herc? What happened to the barb being the tank?! Oh boo-hoo, repair bills and heiro. Well, in my honest opinion, a barb can keep agro better than a herc, and it's heiro ticking for the veno who is spam healing the herc tanking. >_>

/Rant... For now.

KedgeSniper - Lost City · May 2010

Grinding died the day aniversary n hyper came out.

Now everyone oracle 31-60.. 60-70 bh/daily/tidebornquestforcharm .. 71-100 frost hyper/zhen

Pretty much no more fun.. like having a 9x atackin 8x n 8xs atacking back that baddie n killin him... Then having a bunch of 9x zerging fish b:surrender

Now everyone inside instances lving/farming or at common pk spots(in boredom waiting for kos to come or 101010110 people to come pk)

If it wasnt for soloing nirvana.. i probably had quit game already.. N nirvana gettin boring already =,=

MagicHamsta - Lost City · May 2010

Hai there Eshlay.
^_^

Amour - Lost City · May 2010

1) yes the server was much more fun before

2) We need to revive PK. Yet everyone wants a higher aim and established guilds cannot RPK without receiving enormous amounts of flak for it. I would like Essence to go RPK, the server needs an established RPK faction, but we know we cannot endure various attacks + Spectral on the territory map. Multiple losses would lead to deterioration, and it's not what Elayne wants for the guild.

3) Venos have needed a hercules since they were released. I don't have a herc on my veno, you're right it isn't needed in frost. From a PvE perspective though a veno without a herc is equivalent to an EP that gets oneshot by random AoEs in instances, somewhat. You have to be friends with quite a few people to get away without having a herc (like me b:dirty)

Lingzi - Lost City · May 2010

there should be MORE white lvl 90s that wont fight back for me to kill, tats all i want

Hayateremix - Lost City · May 2010

try the swamps? Just yesterday i was killed six times by 9x's..in under ten mins. I'm questing on an alt and they just drop out of the sky or appear out of no where.

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

KedgeSniper- I wholeheartedly agree. And to be honest, I fell into the oracling bandwagon, but on my cleric, just to see what the hype is about, and I honestly don't understand how someone can sit there for several hours for a week killing the same mob over and over just to get to level 100 before the next person. Honestly, I leveled my veno the RIGHT way, at least to 90. No oracles, no hypers (Except after 90 only to get to 92. >_>), BH wasn't introduced until my 80s (And I barely do them anyways.), etc. So, I can easily say that people nowadays have it REALLY freaking easy compared to my leveling days. Secondly, I hate fish. 'nuff said. And finally, I would be running instances or leveling/farming if people would take me for once. >< And as for camping common PK spots, I'm not going to stoop as low as some people as to camp MQ, PQ, etc.

Hammy- Haiiii~ :]

Amour- Once again, I agree. We do need to bring PK back into this server. And, I see your point in number 2. I also see why all of the non-rpk factions came up to begin with, but for every single faction to be PvE, and any RPK factions that randomly pop up get shot down by the little carebears on the server is just dumb. Sure, the smaller, lower-leveled factions can be PvE, but I would love to see one of these 80+ factions go RPK. (I would surely join. >_>;;) But, most of the larger 80+ factions are big on the map, and as you said, it would lead to eventual deterioration. Now to point out the herc issue. I honestly think that if barbs would just learn to get over themselves and tank these instances like they are supposed to, then the PvE aspect of PWI might be a little smoother. And back to the veno, venos have plenty of other tanking pets besides a herc. And not all players on the server can spend $200 to get the best tank in the game. At least some of us have our priorities straight as far as that goes. So, maybe I'm the equivalent to an EP that gets oneshot by the AOE from the boss, but I don't see a point in spending that much money, or spending that much time grinding the money for a few pixels that can take damage. But that's just me.

Lingzi- I would agree, but I'm one of those silly white-named 9xs.

Hayateremix- Trust me. I've tried. Any time I want to go PK, either everyone sits in Safe Zone or all of the kids have gone to bed for school the next day. -.-

drjiggle · May 2010

Eshlay - Lost City wrote: »

Off of the PvP topic, though. What is this sudden **** about a veno being required to have a herc to be accepted into a squad. There are a few instances that I can understand the veno needing a herc, such as GV or soloing HH, but needing a herc to run Frost, or getting invited on a HH, but getting rejected due to not having a herc? What happened to the barb being the tank?! Oh boo-hoo, repair bills and heiro. Well, in my honest opinion, a barb can keep agro better than a herc, and it's heiro ticking for the veno who is spam healing the herc tanking. >_>

You don't need a herc, but wouldn't you agree that a venomancer who does have a herc can probably contribute a little bit more and handle situations that one without a herc can't? If I'm making a squad and have a choice between equally good venomancer players, and one has a herc while the other doesn't, which do you think I'd prefer taking?

It's not all that different from a barbarian who has GX axes and one who doesn't. If the guy with GX's is horrible and doesn't know what he's doing, he's going to suck with or without the axes. But if he's good at playing his character, he's going to be a stronger asset to your squad than the guy without them.

On the other hand ...

Someone (Solandri?) pointed out a while back that a barbarian could suck it up and deal with his 100k repair bills (b:cry) every day for nearly 2 years and just barely have spent the same amount that I spent to get my herc. Add in the fact that I'm useless in PvP without a phoenix, and he can stuff it about his repairs for another 2 years before I'm ready to listen again. So, yeah, I'm with you on that part of it.

Also, stop using an MP heiro on your venomancer. It's a waste.

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

1. You don't need a herc is the point I am trying to get across to people. Now, here's where I will state an opinion. Alright, say you are setting up a Frost squad, and say you are looking for a veno. Two venos answer, and they are both the exact same level, but one has a herc, the other doesn't. Now, let's say the herc veno is a complete and utter fail, but you chose them over the veno without a herc who knows how to play their class and knows what to do in frost. Well, that's the issue I have. I'm not saying all herc venos fail, nor am I saying that I am better than anyone. But quite recently, the Frost squads I have been in have had two venos because they want a herc in the squad, and the herc veno has completely failed to the point where they died, caused party wipe, and I was stuck tanking a boss without pet waiting on the cleric to get back from going to town, causing massive HP heiro ticking and massive event pot useage, all because I'm too stubborn to let the boss die when it has less than 1/4 health left. And trust me, this doesn't only happen in Frost. I've had an HH where my veno has outlived the level 100 and high 9x clerics, and it was up to myself and the barb to finish the boss, no cleric. I'm just throwing that out there, not like it really matters, just stating the fact that no herc doesn't make the veno a fail.

Besides, when making a squad and you need randoms, how do you know which is the pro and which is the fail if you've never even heard of the people who PM you?

By far, I am NOT saying the barbs should just suck it up and pay the 100k repair bills. Trust me, I know it gets costly after a while, (I have a 9x barb as well. :]) and most of the time, even my veno's repair bill can get up to 250k after instances. Ridiculous? I'd say so. So I can understand a barb complaining about repair costs and all, but to the point all venos are expected to have hercs? No thank you.

Add in the fact you are useless in PvP without a nix? Ohhhhh boy, don't EVEN get me started on that. >_> I have a nix, too. But I rarely use it, unless someone royally ticks me off, or I'm just too lazy. Otherwise, I PvP without nix. And win. And I won't go into that rant. If you want to get into that, PM me in-game or on forums. I'll tell you all about that. :]

MP heiro issue- I'm not saying I personally use a MP heiro. In fact, my veno doesn't even have a MP charm right now. I am using MP pots to keep her MP satisfied.

Shinsen - Lost City · May 2010

100% agree with Eshlay.
Stupid 3 way BH and hyper stones made the server map empty - everyone are staying in sz and waiting for squad to safely go to dungeon.... To be honest, at the start i didnt thought that BH and hyper would make such a difference. They should totally wipe the "demon hunter" NPC from the ground.
Also, as it was already stated - the only pvp is at west gate or silver pool. But if you dont have decent lvl and refines - you gonna be just an easy kill to those who have their gear +10 or so. Anyway, mostly only these players are not afraid to pvp/pk. Sad truth.
Also, i hate it when ppl pvp and here comes someone with their shiny +10 armors and weapon and kill everyone and even call other fails just because someone tried to fight him. I'm talking from my personal exp and what i've heard from friends.
And as there is no really good and noticeable RPK faction - everyone's main goal is to lvl up, get refines and join either Essence or Spectral (dont get me wrong, i have nothing against these factions), that are not rpk anyway......Guess as long as there are only about 2 major factions in server - nothing much to do for other factions in terms of pvp. Hope you get my point.

Yourmom - Lost City · May 2010

Amour - Lost City wrote: »

1) yes the server was much more fun before

2) We need to revive PK. Yet everyone wants a higher aim and established guilds cannot RPK without receiving enormous amounts of flak for it. I would like Essence to go RPK, the server needs an established RPK faction, but we know we cannot endure various attacks + Spectral on the territory map. Multiple losses would lead to deterioration, and it's not what Elayne wants for the guild.

3) Venos have needed a hercules since they were released. I don't have a herc on my veno, you're right it isn't needed in frost. From a PvE perspective though a veno without a herc is equivalent to an EP that gets oneshot by random AoEs in instances, somewhat. You have to be friends with quite a few people to get away without having a herc (like me b:dirty)

nobody actually likes doing instances with amour's no herc ****, he just gives good head.

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

Shinsen - Lost City wrote: »

100% agree with Eshlay.
Stupid 3 way BH and hyper stones made the server map empty - everyone are staying in sz and waiting for squad to safely go to dungeon.... To be honest, at the start i didnt thought that BH and hyper would make such a difference. They should totally wipe the "demon hunter" NPC from the ground.
Also, as it was already stated - the only pvp is at west gate or silver pool. But if you dont have decent lvl and refines - you gonna be just an easy kill to those who have their gear +10 or so. Anyway, mostly only these players are not afraid to pvp/pk. Sad truth.
Also, i hate it when ppl pvp and here comes someone with their shiny +10 armors and weapon and kill everyone and even call other fails just because someone tried to fight him. I'm talking from my personal exp and what i've heard from friends.
And as there is no really good and noticeable RPK faction - everyone's main goal is to lvl up, get refines and join either Essence or Spectral (dont get me wrong, i have nothing against these factions), that are not rpk anyway......Guess as long as there are only about 2 major factions in server - nothing much to do for other factions in terms of pvp. Hope you get my point.

I get your point exactly. And it's part of the point I am trying to make as far as PvP goes. And if they're not waiting in Safe Zone for their squad, they are teleporting into the instance to safe time and themselves from getting PKed. Not like they have anything to fear nowadays that the big PvPers from my time have either quit, have been banned, or fail now.

I will admit, I don't have +10 gear or Nirvana gear and all of that other ****. (Not that I could have Nirvana at 92 anyways. XP) Yes, I do have my gear refined, but it's all from mirages and I have a +5 max, which is about half of my gear, the other half is +3 or below. Again, all from mirages, nothing too fancy. I will be completely honest and say all I have spent on this game is about $250 tops, and it has all gone to things that really have little to no benefit as far as stats go. (Aka, Fash and Packs that I didn't even get anything from. =.=) As far as my Frost Weap, Beetle, and mounts (Especially the tidal serpent) go, people call me a cash shopper for even having them, but to be honest, it was all given to me by a friend who has quit the game for other reasons. 'nuff said.

And as far as these factions go. I'll simply restate the fact that there are no RPK factions anymore. If there are, they will be shot down quickly. Sure, there's Koi and RQ, but are they completely RPK? I think not. Correct me if you must.

Gilforin - Lost City · May 2010

when i was around lv 74 I though it was a god Idea to go rpk. I WAS WRONG.
got like 18 hours on me and noticed that my lv was still to low for it.

so I waited. Then came the DraGOneS times. We wenrent knownd by many in the sever but they where fun times.

Asgard was a fun guild to pvp with, most of them where higher lv then us. OK all of them were higher lv then us But we still tried to take them on.

RedHawk's wasnt acctualy our KOS but we enjoyed giving our allies a hand with them 2

Rage quit was a guild that busted my chops all the time until they stated to recruit carebears.

FinalOath was a guild that made us PVP all the time... All the time...

this might seem funny in a way But In DraGOneS we had a system of PVP and PVE.

like shifts from work. Till sertain hours we had player that looked out for our members.

we would cover certain areas of the map xD.

if there was problems we send 1 team for back up. Thats the reason we were allways in a PVP war 24/7.

we were never an rpk guild (doesnt mean rpk wasnt going on behind our backs).

The one thing I allways tried to do was Back up our members.

In these days things are all going wrong,

My alt is in a guild with over 30 90+ and 2 lv 100.

I got ganked on my alt and asked for back up.

my surprise was reading all the BS on the guild chat, things like:

Why dont you stay in SZ till the RPK's leave.

If they're attacking you, fight back.

Sry I dont like getting my charm *****.

I dont know how to use this char, cause I lvd with oracles and hyper stones.

WTF . WTF .

I think the main reason why Most Of RPK is over and I think its the main reason.

Shattered gear.

forget the charm ****. or the DQ's you might drop.

RPk = no questing
no questing = no mirages

Charm cost 4 gold

Bound your gears cost 50 silver each.

paying 15 mirages to repair your flying mount. WTF

15 mirages= 20k each 300k to reapir a gear thats goona break again.

worst part is when you have bound gear and you forget to put mirages in the bank.

shattered gear at the same time you drop the mirages.

at lv 97 I began to to RPK for 1 night .

Everyone. dint realy care who or what it was.

I even told my frineds in my FL that I was gonna rpk so becareful if I see them out of safezone, I was gonna pk them xD.

I PKd 8 friends and lost 4 of them as friends xD.b:laugh

I circled the map 4 times that night and pkd everyone I saw.

theres a lot of QQing out there. telling me how they were going to get me band and a bunch of **** like that.

Shattered gears is what made this sever began to get boring.

maybe if a player dies and you get a reward for killing him. like , lets say 2k for killing a white name, 5k for killing a pink name, or 10k for pking a red name.

But it should have like ruls xD. Like you only get coins if you pk that same player after 24 hours.

But its a stupid Idea anyways.xD

IDK . whateverb:bye

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

Gliforin, I remember when I was in Watchmen we would always have PvP wars against DraGOneS. It was fun, and I still joined in when I had left Watchmen, but only when I happened to run into you guys. XP Good times, lots of fun, and lots of training on how to PvP and even a little more experience on how to play my veno.

Moving on, though. I know what you mean. I don't usually ask for backup, but when someone in faction asks for help because someone pked them, I usually show up while everyone else whines that they don't have a charm, pots, dolls, or that they don't want to get red or shatter. I think in all of my time of PKing, I have only shattered twice. I think a ring and a helm. As for dropping, I never carry dolls, and when I drop something, it's my own fault for not checking my safety lock, so I don't normally QQ about it like most people do. Charm, I almost always keep a HP charm of some sort on me. Get me barb buffs, and I'm good to go for a while.

I don't agree that there should be a reward for PKing, but I do think that people should just suck it up or re-roll. Or just level instead of crying about it. Sure, there are people who camp, but I know for a fact that when I go our rpking, you'll only see me kill a person once, then move on (unless they QQ too hard. Then it becomes a game for me. But even then, I won't sit there for hours camping them.) and once I run out of people to kill, I'm usually satisfied and log off, repeat the next day. But... People need to learn that this is a PvP server. You're going to die, get over it.

Dizzy - Lost City · May 2010

Gilforin - Lost City wrote: »

like shifts from work. Till sertain hours we had player that looked out for our members.

we would cover certain areas of the map xD.

if there was problems we send 1 team for back up. Thats the reason we were allways in a PVP war 24/7.

That explains a lot. I still remember my 8x rpk days when I'd see green dots at a low level spot, drop in, and see you and a team of dragones sitting there doing nothing.

No wonder you were bored enough to chase me a quarter ways across the map.

TigerLily - Lost City · May 2010

Map is empty because everyone is inside an instance, blame the Chinese developers for creating 3 BHs a day,Nirvana and Hyper Frost making everyone pve addicted - thats not a Lost City problem ;(

Everyone wanna rush to 100, than they wanna get all 99 gear, than they wanna get Nirvana gear. Than they have to keep farming Nirvana for cash to refines. Very limited time anymore outside SZ and in between charging more zen.

Chilling at 90 now and just pking and trying to have have fun is not possible anymore, well u just get 1 shoot by +10/+12 weapons which makes u think "i need to lvl up maybe" lol...

I also dont think anyone would enjoy if the major factions all went rpk. If the best geared and most active 500-700 players from Spectral, Essence, Kami and even Yakuza on Lost City started rpking you wouldn't find a single living player outside of SZ to get red on. You would only find lvl 100+ players with ridiculously OP gear looking for random people to gank. Lost City would turn into a Ghost Town.

Nakhimov - Lost City · May 2010

@Gilforin; Is that why I got zerged everythime I killed one of your members? b:shocked

And yeah, PWI pve is terribly boring. It's 100% tedious farm content. Something needs to be done about it.

Gilforin - Lost City · May 2010

Yeah Watchmen I remember does days they where fun in a way.

Did like the way things started with the KOS.

Just so you know, this is what happend.

I was in SP helping my guildis kill silver frost, Coolzmex (failed wiz) was there at the entrance. I was a marshall of dragones and he started to talk **** about how he can 1 shot my leader and a bunch of ****.

ATM Solitario (dargones leader) was gearing up and sold all his gear to buy his HH 90.
So he was gearless. So an RQ walked in and I PKd him. Then an Ice Dragon fell over me, But I dint die. I chased him and he went to safezone (coolzmex).

He was in safe zone AFK. So I moved away then came back just to make him think I was gone. He left the instance and I chased him, just out side I PKd him and got 2 hours.
I went helped my guildi and when I steped out of SP your leader director and coolzmex were there waiting for me xD. They chased me to Archo and I tried to explain what happen, But all the director ketp saying was. Theres nothing to say your red.

we PVP'd a bit and then after I while I left, cause it was 1 vs 3 xD
Days later I tried to explain but no use.

Then I became leader and made the guild a PVP guild and began to make everyone PVP, You should know that xD.
The 3 Key letter of this server is the once that make me keep playing ( PVP )

PVPing with Nostalgia was also fun. Itstarted to get out of hand when we began to take on almost the whole server. Most of it was FinalOath fault.

This Is why: if they admit it or not, They put a spy in our guild TheCon in times of the begining of the server reset. This player was there to take down what I created.

He Rpk everyone essence, kamizama, Spectral, RedDawn, Yakuza, Suteki..... and more.

I was able t get of some KOS list xD. But also enjoyed PVPing vs essence ...

I dont think Im bad at PVP. You know what they say, You cant be bad at what you like.b:victoryb:victory

angellicdeity · May 2010

TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »

Map is empty because everyone is inside an instance, blame the Chinese developers for creating 3 BHs a day,Nirvana and Hyper Frost making everyone pve addicted - thats not a Lost City problem ;(

Everyone wanna rush to 100, than they wanna get all 99 gear, than they wanna get Nirvana gear. Than they have to keep farming Nirvana for cash to refines. Very limited time anymore outside SZ and in between charging more zen.

Chilling at 90 now and just pking and trying to have have fun is not possible anymore, well u just get 1 shoot by +10/+12 weapons which makes u think "i need to lvl up maybe" lol...

I also dont think anyone would enjoy if the major factions all went rpk. If the best geared and most active 500-700 players from Spectral, Essence, Kami and even Yakuza on Lost City started rpking you wouldn't find a single living player outside of SZ to get red on. You would only find lvl 100+ players with ridiculously OP gear looking for random people to gank. Lost City would turn into a Ghost Town.

RPK doesn't work on lost city.

Not one of the top factions is dominant.

Unless Essence, Kami and Spectral get along RPK from the top guilds wont happen.

If Essence goes RPK, Spectral would only use that as leverage to get other smaller guilds to fight.

They may not be able to win territory from Essence, but they would be able to tick charms and in general ramp up the cost of TW. Essence salary is nowhere near enough to cover charms from triple attacks constantly happening every 2 or 3 days of the weekend. From Essences track record, essence wouldn't want multiple guilds attacking on the same day Spectral attacks. Last thing you want to happen is for your charm to break less than 30 minutes into Spectral TW.

The Reverse is true if Spectral, Kami or Yakuza were to go RPK.

The real reason why Lost City PvP is dead is simply because it costs too much money. Inbetween charms, dolls, or mirages for shattered gear, you dont have much money left to improve your gears. 1M a gold charm, 100K a doll, and 10K+ per mirage.

Coraline - Lost City · May 2010

angellicdeity wrote: »

RPK doesn't work on lost city.

Not one of the top factions is dominant.

Unless Essence, Kami and Spectral get along RPK from the top guilds wont happen.

If Essence goes RPK, Spectral would only use that as leverage to get other smaller guilds to fight.

They may not be able to win territory from Essence, but they would be able to tick charms and in general ramp up the cost of TW. Essence salary is nowhere near enough to cover charms from triple attacks constantly happening every 2 or 3 days of the weekend. From Essences track record, essence wouldn't want multiple guilds attacking on the same day Spectral attacks. Last thing you want to happen is for your charm to break less than 30 minutes into Spectral TW.

The Reverse is true if Spectral, Kami or Yakuza were to go RPK.

The real reason why Lost City PvP is dead is simply because it costs too much money. Inbetween charms, dolls, or mirages for shattered gear, you dont have much money left to improve your gears. 1M a gold charm, 100K a doll, and 10K+ per mirage.

No one buys dolls..okay maybe a few do, but with SL theres no point unless you don't want a SL, personally I just stay in safe and set up a cat shop if I go red. And the mirages..I think shattering is rare, I haven't seen it or heard reports of it happening in a while. About the improving gear, yeah..I don't want to pk until I get decent gear. You get ridiculed for having non +10 gear (exaggeration) and seen as not as a good player if you don't have highely refined gears. But doing 500 a hit to someone doesn't encourage pvp for me until I have better refines.

With rpk guilds, you get typically seen as the bad guy. I remember, it was maybe an hour before I joined RQ, I was 55ish at the time and in a guild named WolfBlade. Well, me, Genna and some other people I thin DarkDiety and others went to sighh I forget the name of the guild. Anyway, it had Guru in it, and Calvin. We went over there to help in TW against RQ before the guild lost their last land. Anyway they lost against RQ. I was still in WolfBlade's vent after I left the guild we were helping. Genna was telling me that Guru and the other people, Im guessing Shin, were going to make a guild to take down RQ and that was GZ. And then I joined. Anywayyyy whole point rpk guilds are seen as the bad guys. Maybe it was more seen like that in the beginning of the server and now that most of the rpk guilds are gone, people miss them.

Gilforin - Lost City · May 2010

+10 gears is a factor in a way, but it doesnt realy matter. +5 is good enough to take on anyone. My weapon's are +10 but my gears are +5 even when I was with HH 90.

The true and only thing you need to survive PVP is: YOU NEED TO HAVE SKILLS.

Your targets are not supose to be safe zone. Its supose to be the Best PVP'rs in the server.

Even at Lower lv I tried to take on the best pvp'rs I know on the enemy side xD.

Amour,Tika, NyKage, Electra, Pharoh, Mavenaa, Transend, Elyane,Yali,Kristoph ... and more.
At first it seemed imposible, like a goal never to be seen, leaning things from your adversary is the best thing ever.

The reason why many dont PVP is because many player dont know how to do it.
they spend so much time in their oracles and Hyper at frost that they dont even know what skills are good.
Its as bad as: sometimes I see a KOS and look at their name. See that they try to run away fast I stop them and with a simple combination I pk them, and thats with out putting down my HotDog.

1 time I pkd 3 ruthless while at the time I pulled my mouse from my pc and only used the hotkeys skills. xD.

players should learn to use their chars xD.b:victory

_Rosaly_ - Lost City · May 2010

Eshlay - Lost City wrote: »

Sure, there's Koi and RQ, but are they completely RPK? I think not. Correct me if you must.

Koi merged into ThaClick and RQ is still completely RPK, but mostly empty.

Generally speaking, instead of (rightfully!) complaining about a lack of RPK on the server, there is the option of leaving your guild and joining an RPK one.

Lingzi - Lost City · May 2010

one thing catches my attention here, having no +10 makes u a failure.

ppl kept saying im fail kuz i dun have +10, does CSing less makes u a fail? it doesnt make sense. and 1 more thing, ppl call me fail kuz i just killed em. like wtf, if im a fail for killing u, then ur more of a fail kuz u died. b:angry

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

To be completely honest, Gilforin, I didn't care about the KoS or how it started. I just wanted to PvP, kick some butt and relieve some stress. :] Thank you for that.

It's not only the fact that there's 3 BHs a day, more instances to run, etc. It's the fact that everyone chose to go PvE/PKK before BHs were a big deal and Nirvana came in. I do like how they are giving the higher levels more to do (ffs, why not give 9xs something to do to level besides grinding. =.=) but at what cost? Also, I feel as if the GMs might even be partially to blame for the decline of PvP. Have you noticed most of the big RPKers have been banned, or at least warned multiple times to stop PvPing on a PvP server? >_> Thanks for the contradiction there.

As for the cost of TW, I know how it is. I was in Ruthless when it was double attack one night, single the next. So, believe me when I say I know how bad the cost of charms, repair bills, pots, etc. is against the salary received each week. Was it worth it, though? Totally.

Skill- What's 'skill' to the oracle noobs and cash shoppers? They all have +10 or above and can kill anyone with the combination of genie and a skill or two. Heck, BMs have it easy with all of the chain stuns AND Occult Ice. (OP much? I think so.) But, as I stated before, I don't have great refinement on my gear, or a genie with 6 skills. But, at least I know how to play my character, how to weave skills into a combo set for maximum damage, and in all of this time, I have learned not to become too reliant on my pet or genie to save my butt in a sticky situation. So what, the 1v1 took 5 minutes and I died, at least I can stand up to a lot of the heavy cashshoppers is a nice one on one.

_Rosaly_, thank you for clearing that up. I forgot they merged. Haven't been on PWI much the past couple of weeks.

And answer me this: What is a decent, truly RPK faction? Right now I'm in a sort of 'do what you want, just don't get yourself banned' faction. Only problem is, I can't find anyone to PK, so when I do log on, it's generally the agenda of doing WQ, and then helping friends out with their BHs or bosses or whatever they need. There's always time in there for RPK, but I can never find anybody to kill.

Lingzi- Having +10 does not make anyone a pro. It just states the fact that they have cash and gear with a tiny bit better stats. I love seeing how much they QQ when I kill them, and how many people they send after me for it. But I agree. They always call the winner a noob, but I personally think it is the other way around. It goes like this: "U R NOOB!!! U KILLZ ME!!! QQQQQ" "I'm a noob? You're the one on the ground dead, not me. How does that make ME a noob? :]"

drjiggle · May 2010

Eshlay - Lost City wrote: »

Have you noticed most of the big RPKers have been banned, or at least warned multiple times to stop PvPing on a PvP server? >_> Thanks for the contradiction there.

Anyone who has been banned for PK-ing has been banned for something like being level 100 killing level 30's repeatedly in Secret Passage, bringing a squad of 6 level 100's to secure Marriage Quest for 2 hours preventing anyone else from doing it, etc. There's a reasonable argument to be made that those things shouldn't be bannable, but I think it's crazy to say that's what's hurting overall PvP. If you can't manage to find ways to PvP outside situations like that, that's your problem, not the GMs'. Or maybe it's the developers' problem for creating so many instance-oriented game features, but making a connection between bans for PK-ing in Secret Passage and the death of PvP is a huge stretch at best.

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

drjiggle wrote: »

Anyone who has been banned for PK-ing has been banned for something like being level 100 killing level 30's repeatedly in Secret Passage, bringing a squad of 6 level 100's to secure Marriage Quest for 2 hours preventing anyone else from doing it, etc. There's a reasonable argument to be made that those things shouldn't be bannable, but I think it's crazy to say that's what's hurting overall PvP. If you can't manage to find ways to PvP outside situations like that, that's your problem, not the GMs'. Or maybe it's the developers' problem for creating so many instance-oriented game features, but making a connection between bans for PK-ing in Secret Passage and the death of PvP is a huge stretch at best.

Well... Here's how I see it. It's not a safe zone. If the GMs want to prevent PKing there, make it a safe zone. I understand the whole thing in Secret Passage, but most of the people on Marriage Quest are at least 7x anyways (Keyword: MOST) and most of the ones there can kind of defend themselves. I wasn't naming Secret Passage camping to be linked to the death of PvP. But anyone who kills someone twice in one area is a ticket for banning?

Tatuaje - Lost City · May 2010

Since I do not play that often I might just test the waters these days on who is swinging the BAN hammer up at PWI headquarters.

Next time I am on, I will go on a PK frenzy and see where it leads.

The developers have really messed it up by not making these quest areas safe zones. What they should have done was to make it an instance specific to the couply entering.

I hate hearing the BS about people getting banned for not allowing the flow of the game for the victim.

If it is OPEN PVP then anywhere you can be PK'd then let it be so.

cockie · May 2010

angellicdeity wrote: »

Not one of the top factions is dominant.

Unless Essence, Kami and Spectral get along RPK from the top guilds wont happen.

If Essence goes RPK, Spectral would only use that as leverage to get other smaller guilds to fight.

They may not be able to win territory from Essence, but they would be able to tick charms and in general ramp up the cost of TW. Es

The Reverse is true if Spectral, Kami or Yakuza were to go RPK.

The real reason why Lost City PvP is dead is simply because it costs too much money. Inbetween charms, dolls, or mirages for shattered gear, you dont have much money left to improve your gears. 1M a gold charm, 100K a doll, and 10K+ per mirage.

1) If you base dominance on land (as it was in the past = CQ) then Essence IS the dominant faction.

2) If all of the RPK guilds got together and made 1 or 2 strong guilds it could happen. But guild leaders don't want to give up their leadership role and noteriety. (This is why you see so many no name faction s everywhere)

3) Same goes for any non rpk guild against another. Not just spectral

4)Spectral hasn't won territory from Essence because they haven't bid.... yet. b:laugh. They ARE able to successfully defend.. and have done so quite alot.

5) Chose the battles you go to fight. There is no rule stating you must defend all lands if attacked. Spectral gives Essence land every week so they can defend against Kami.

6) The real reason is stated before. Everyone is rushing levels and rushing to get the best gear in the game. They are farming instances. Safety Lock is free to pvp with. Go do WQ and look in the old grinding areas. No one is there. No one grinds for levels anymore.. they are all in nirvana, frost or bh.

BattleFairy - Lost City · May 2010

people without hercs always talk like that.

you never know how awesome they are till you have one.

angellicdeity · May 2010

cockie wrote: »

1) If you base dominance on land (as it was in the past = CQ) then Essence IS the dominant faction.

2) If all of the RPK guilds got together and made 1 or 2 strong guilds it could happen. But guild leaders don't want to give up their leadership role and noteriety. (This is why you see so many no name faction s everywhere)

3) Same goes for any non rpk guild against another. Not just spectral

4)Spectral hasn't won territory from Essence because they haven't bid.... yet. b:laugh. They ARE able to successfully defend.. and have done so quite alot.

5) Chose the battles you go to fight. There is no rule stating you must defend all lands if attacked. Spectral gives Essence land every week so they can defend against Kami.

6) The real reason is stated before. Everyone is rushing levels and rushing to get the best gear in the game. They are farming instances. Safety Lock is free to pvp with. Go do WQ and look in the old grinding areas. No one is there. No one grinds for levels anymore.. they are all in nirvana, frost or bh.

CQ wasn't dominant based on land. CQ could take spectral 3 on 1 and win consistently. Something Essence cant do.

Spectral won several times by killing Essences Crystal on the defence... When the defender is able to not only repel your attack but kill the attacking crystal with a disadvantage.... well... you dont need to really question who would win when they actually have the advantage.

Again, you still failed to understand the point. Neither spectal, Kami nor essence are dominant. The moment either of them attracts the hate of a zerg of smaller guilds, they ultimately eventually fall.

If you want to be a factor, you need gears with decent refines, stats, and shards. If you want to be blowing more than 1M a week on charms because of TW, then you'll have to find ways to make up the set-back.

At the end of the day, packs arent making gold cheaper. You can say that spending 1M a week is worth the fun, but at the end of the day if you (A) dont have obscene amounts of time to spend making in-game coins or if you (B) dont have obscene amounts of money to buy directly from the boutique, you'll remain a non-factor or slowly become a non-factor as PWI introduces new and innovative ways to make CS'ers better than you.

If your in both camp (A) and (B) then you'll eventually quit the guild, or be kicked. Good luck going to TW without a charm at the Spectral/Kami/Essence level.

Eshlay - Lost City · May 2010

Tatuaje- I wish you luck on that. PM me in game, I'll come with. :]

BattleFairy- I've played on a veno with a herc, and see no major difference. You have a tanking pet, big whoop. It still dies, just like any other pet would, and fairly easily depending on what you're up against. Again, no major difference besides a huge food cost. =.=

angellicdeity- Factor. Lololol. Don't make me laugh. I'd rather be a non-factor who doesn't spend thousands of dollars on the game per month than a factor who does and ends up being a total dooshebag. >_>

Major rant? >_>

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