Best uses for Wings of Grace

Miugre - Heavens Tear · May 2010

So I've been pondering this lately... what do people use Wings of Grace for?

I've read several times on this board that it's considered a good skill... maybe for PVP reasons? I don't actually do any serious PVP, so I'll admit my knowledge in it is lacking, but... I've read that when people use sage/demon spark, they're wide open for a purge/seal/etc. If that's the case, then what's the benefit of WoG?

It takes just as long to cast as sage/demon spark, and requires an extra second to channel (for a total of 4s where you can't move). Its speed increase isn't that good, especially compared to Elven Aclarity which IMO is a much better use of a spark. EA does both the speed increase and the immunity to movement debuffs, and requires no channeling.

The only advantage WoG has over EA is its cooldown, and the fact that it adds the 30% damage reduction. I guess this is why people like it? I dunno, to me, the horrendous cast time kind of cancels that out, even if you are immune to damage while casting it (and if you can nullify spark immunity, you can nullify WoG immunity). Additionally, sage spark grants you 25% damage reduction anyway, which is almost as good as WoG (yes, I know most of you aren't sages, but just humor me).

The last time I used WoG was actually the other day... while fighting Harpy Kabals for a killquest. I misread my tab-targeting and ended up firing at a Sac Assault mob who was surrounded by two others (one of which was Inc. Attack). Not wanting to lose the Sac Assault kill, I decided to sit there and soak while killing all three of them. This took me one cast of WoG, one Winged Shell, a ToP, and a regular potion. Somehow I thought to use WoG in this situation, not that it did much for me. Prior to this, I hadn't used WoG for any serious purpose in months.

So from what I can see, Wings of Grace is just an inferior hybrid of Elven Aclarity and sage spark. Maybe it had more of a use back at Lv59, but it was the extremely long casting time which turned me off from it.

So can anyone tell me why they like/don't like this skill? :P (I assume I'll get flamed by people who just write me off with "u dont kno pvp lol"... but oh well)

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · May 2010

Wing of Grace is used for the anti-stun and the invulnerability. The damage reduction I'd say is not a primary reason to cast it but it helps.

For PvE it can be used in boss fights where you steal aggro. Use shell to cancel one boss hit... then wings of grace to cancel the next. Wings of Grace is very visual and so you might as well be screaming at the cleric "I have aggro!!! HEAL ME NAO!!!". In later instances bosses can often have sleep or stun so WoG helps there.

In PVP it is great against BMs, barbs, and maybe assassins as they can get very frustrated when they run up to you only to have all their attacks resisted followed by an unstunnable archer. In group PVP your squad mates can see the WoG and the invulnerability gives them time to provide cover.

Sint - Harshlands · May 2010

imunity, (wich lasts a bit longer than single spark, and is therefore easier to time) dmg reduction, the slight speed increase wich lets me kite a tad better, and the fact it lasts almost twice as long as EA. i can comfortably kill a bm in the time WoG gives me.

It's also good for attention wh.oring

NiightmareXz - Harshlands · May 2010

Once, on my cleric, I practiced fighting a certain archer friend so he could time WoG right. As an archer, once you see the cleric or maybe wiz starting up a spell, you can easily pop WoG to resist that skill they use then pwn them. (Maybe, if you're good enough.) That and it's anti-stun effects are nice against sins and bms and barbs.
So yeah.
Time to lay back down and reduce the swelling of my GIANT mouth from surgery! 8D

Stayne - Harshlands · May 2010

I use WoG in

PvE: When I steal aggro. I think someone already said this.

PvP: Barbs, BM's, resist wiz skills that can hurt, resist metal mages, resist veno stun, resist archer stun and immobolize, pop before attacking psychics with reflect skill or stun attacker buff, AD + WoG to resist all sin stuns (and then watch them qq).....pretty much for everything.

Noob - Raging Tide · May 2010

I use wings of grace for tw . WoG > Immunity pot > Run into enemy base> survive the towers

> BARRAGE ON SPAWN!!!! b:dirty

TigerLily - Lost City · May 2010

Eleven Alacrity: When you just wanna gtfo really fast and you aren't really being hit by that many people. Like you see a swarm of 10 ppl rushing towards you in TW but only maybe 1 player is actually in range stunning you <.<

Thats when i use Eleven, since its instant cast. Its like holy path + free movement.

WoG is better to use when you're getting ganked and receiving dmg since you get a few sec of resist + dmg reduction and free movement. How ever WoG takes a long time to cast so in certain cases the 79 skill would have been better, since a little bit of reduction aint worth **** when you have 5 ppl nuking you.

WoG is very useful to resist ultis in general with tho, but its rather hard to time it if you lag ;/ Even if you fail with the timing, the reduction that comes after might very well save you from being 1 shoot.

I use WoG a lot in pve to if i grab aggro from bosses and such. Both of the skills have their usage, however i use 79 skill a bit more id say since its like holy path but without wasting genie energy.

Quilue - Sanctuary · May 2010

In PvE you're supposed to use it to block attacks. it's better than demon/sage spark for that purpose because it costs 1 spark instead of 3. I guess you could be so ****ing pro that you can block attacks with single spark, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no lag at all. I've survived 3-3 bosses long enough with a combination of WoG, winged shell, and kiting for cleric to ress the tank so that a run can continue.

In TW I use holy path mostly but in 1 instance I used WoG and winged shell to survive 2 successive armas by some barbs coming after me... >.>;

Meanpie - Lost City · May 2010

WoG gives you 7 more seconds of anti stun and running away really fast isn't always necessarily what you want to accomplish. I use the cast time to block powerful attacks or ganks when Absolute Domain is unavailable. Also don't forget that when PvPing in the air you don't get the speed benefit from Elven Alacrity. I generally prefer to use WoG over Elven Alacrity especially since Holy Path does pretty much the same thing. Occasionally I use WoG before using Barrage for the damage reduction and anti stun.

Miugre - Heavens Tear · May 2010

All interesting points. I'll consider them, ty all.

One thing that wasn't answered yet, though... what about purges? I've heard that sage/demon sparks leave you wide open to be purged or sealed in PVP. How true is this... or perhaps more importantly, how often does this tend to happen? I suppose the seal wouldn't apply to WoG since that counts as a movement debuff (or does it? it doesn't actually restrict your movement...).

Mercinary - Heavens Tear · May 2010

I believe during the 3 seconds you cannot be purged or sealed not too sure.

But WoG does not protect against seal. Also Alacrity does not protect against sleep, I've tried it but WoG does... dunno why, glitch maybe?

Quilue - Sanctuary · May 2010

what do you mean alacrity does not protect against sleep? it's the same buff as WoG

if someone's already slept, you can't break him/her out of sleep with alacrity, if that's what you tried to do. however, it will resist sleep if you cast it beforehand.

i know from my fail attempts to wake cleric up while fighting Steelation QQ

Axemanek - Heavens Tear · May 2010

didnt know that this skill had such good uses

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · May 2010

When sealed you can still run around, so seal doesn't fall under movement debufs. Nice way to **** off sins b:chuckle

Also, DURING the imvurnability, you canot be purged, sealed, stunned, or anything. The reason people try to seal/purge/w/e a 3spark is because 3spark HURTS.

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