Best class for soloing?

lonegreywolf20
lonegreywolf20 Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Dungeons & Tactics
I was wondering which of these two classes are able to solo effectively?

The Venomancer or the Assassin?

I have been trying to find a way to enjoy this game, but there always seems to be a roadblock. One of them being can't decide which class is best at soloing between the two I mentioned. The other is finding a guild to join. The last one is the way movement is set.

With movement I am so used to just using the arrow keys, that anything else just seems awkward to me.

Any hints on how to make my movement more arrow key like?
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  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Veno all the way. I have a veno and a sin and the sin just can't compare to the veno.
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Its the Veno they are the only solo class in the game. b:pleased
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Just my personal opinion here.

    If you're able to dump massive amounts of money into the game, go assassin, get decked out in interval gear and go solo stuff.

    If you're just a casual player, I'd say venomancers are better at soloing.

    You can set your up/down/left/right to your numpad i suppose, since that's relatively closer to your arrow keys.
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  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ...interval gears only possible at late 90, in early lvl, sin can't really soloing imo.
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  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Learn lvl 1 apothecary, make life powder, and get second wind of your genie. Then your sin can solo a good bit. I solo'd most of my bosses on my sin at lvl with those 2 things.

    Can a sin solo everything? No. Venos are still the best soloers.
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  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ...interval gears only possible at late 90, in early lvl, sin can't really soloing imo.



    I think that's why he said if people can dump a lot of money into the game it would be possible. Then you could just buy hyper xp stones & oracles and level to 90 in about 5 minutes.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Its the Veno they are the only solo class in the game. b:pleased

    Venos aren't the only solo class as BMs and Clerics can do it as well.
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  • XmasBunny_ - Archosaur
    XmasBunny_ - Archosaur Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Venos aren't the only solo class as BMs and Clerics can do it as well.

    i usually play veno and cleric and trust me a veno is better for soloing cause clerics will get out of mana (yes they are 1 of the most easy to solo class), while with venos that won't happen so much (of course u have to learn how to use your veno, your skills and your pet) which makes grinding and questing much faster.

    anyway venos can't solo most of their bosses since lvl 40+, so don't think with a veno you will smash every bareer in font of you, they are probably just the best class for soloing mobs (common and elite), unless you spend arround 200 euros/dolars/whatever in an herc at the beggining of the game (herc can be aquired only from grinding at later lvls but u have to REALLY work your **** off xD).
  • Miatemaro - Heavens Tear
    Miatemaro - Heavens Tear Posts: 700 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Any class can solo well, As long as you know what your capable of doing. That is what really matters. Dont let ppl trick you into thinking things are impossible because of there preconcieved notions. You never know what it is till you try. Yes this pic is true and yes I did solo it.

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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i usually play veno and cleric and trust me a veno is better for soloing cause clerics will get out of mana (yes they are 1 of the most easy to solo class), while with venos that won't happen so much (of course u have to learn how to use your veno, your skills and your pet) which makes grinding and questing much faster.

    anyway venos can't solo most of their bosses since lvl 40+, so don't think with a veno you will smash every bareer in font of you, they are probably just the best class for soloing mobs (common and elite), unless you spend arround 200 euros/dolars/whatever in an herc at the beggining of the game (herc can be aquired only from grinding at later lvls but u have to REALLY work your **** off xD).

    We can AoE solo poison mobs better than a Veno can.We don't run out of man that fast and you are talking to a person who plays Herc/Veno.
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  • Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver
    Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Veno, definitely. Heck, if I can solo Charr at level 25, imagine what I could do in BH 29. xD [/fake concietedness]

    And not any class can solo well, really. Psys, definitely, need a squad for most things.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    The biggest difference is venomancer can solo instances much more earlier than other class. b:dirty
    Though after other class gain uber power full gear . . well you know . . :P
    But . . the price for those gear is much much more than a hercules anyway . .
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  • Axemanek - Heavens Tear
    Axemanek - Heavens Tear Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    veeenooo or bladeeemasterrrrrr

    no reason for the emphasis btw ^^
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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  • Proclivity - Archosaur
    Proclivity - Archosaur Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ...interval gears only possible at late 90, in early lvl, sin can't really soloing imo.

    Venomancer would be the most common option, they can solo most things with glacial walker pet and some time, but other classes are good too.

    havng played cleric to 100 i know they can solo alot of **** pretty well too but the new upcoming builds are interval stacked builds, costs a fair bit of money to make one but can solo 10x quicker then anything else.

    and hypnos sins can actually work out brillient tanks at 90, infact this is one im currently working towards.

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    2.5 rate at 90 (4.44 with demon spark) which is enough to keep permant demon spark, and what makes sins better solo classes then other interval builds is the bloodpaint which heals alot of hp.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    And the godly amount of money needed to reach that build ^ b:chuckle

    Btw , . a fist bm with godly gear passing by the assassin . .
    BM = "Hey, buddy can you share your bloodpaint ? i want to solo without using heal too."
    Sin = "Sure buddy, there you go."
    BM= "Thanks"

    Just share the bloodpaint to other melee class please . . b:laugh then every melee can happy solo. b:laugh
    (only apply for those with high aspd and godly gear)
    (and please don't qoute these since these talking about melee that can solo high lv instance alone and kill super fast, yeah i know BM is good for solo even before high lv)
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  • Proclivity - Archosaur
    Proclivity - Archosaur Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    And the godly amount of money needed to reach that build ^ b:chuckle

    Btw , . a fist bm with godly gear passing by the assassin . .
    BM = "Hey, buddy can you share your bloodpaint ? i want to solo without using heal too."
    Sin = "Sure buddy, there you go."
    BM= "Thanks"

    Just share the bloodpaint to other melee class please . . b:laugh then every melee can happy solo. b:laugh
    (only apply for those with high aspd and godly gear)
    (and please don't qoute these since these talking about melee that can solo high lv instance alone and kill super fast, yeah i know BM is good for solo even before high lv)

    its ashame bloodpaint lasts 30 mins, so that sin would have to be on tap after every boss in a TT or FB ay? dont sound much like soloing to me, why not just bring a cleric too.

    and also "godly" amount lol, the tome is the most expensive part. that build is nothing compaired to some ive seen.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    its ashame bloodpaint lasts 30 mins, so that sin would have to be on tap after every boss in a TT or FB ay? dont sound much like soloing to me, why not just bring a cleric too.

    and also "godly" amount lol, the tome is the most expensive part. that build is nothing compaired to some ive seen.

    OH , , ok then . . b:chuckle

    *Hear everyone !! That build not even godly yet . . * b:laugh Joke b:laugh
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  • Proclivity - Archosaur
    Proclivity - Archosaur Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    im not saying its a build you can snap together in 10 mins, im just saying compared to cashshoppers these days, 2 peices of event gear is nothing. infact if im to quote myself
    Venomancer would be the most common option,
    havng played cleric to 100 i know they can solo alot of **** pretty well too but the new upcoming builds are interval stacked builds, costs a fair bit of money to make one but can solo 10x quicker then anything else.

    and last i checked the defination of solo on this game is to do something without anyones help, hence why i said sins for self buffs.
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  • Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear
    Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear Posts: 916 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Veno. 'nuff said. Venos are known to be the solo and lonely class.
    I call it how I see it.
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  • Daose - Harshlands
    Daose - Harshlands Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited May 2010

    And not any class can solo well, really. Psys, definitely, need a squad for most things.

    Actually I've found it to be the opposite.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Actually I've found it to be the opposite.

    Agree . .
    Basically o.0 it just like Wizard . . cast skill from far away > bam > bam > dead mob . . look for other mob . . careful to not get outnumbered.
    And not any class can solo well, really. Psys, definitely, need a squad for most things.

    If what were talking is instances . . -_- almost every class need you know . . at last instances around their lv. (probably everyone expect venomancer, can solo instances around their lv, at last until mid lv instances. After that need to be higher lv than the instance.)
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  • Archalt - Sanctuary
    Archalt - Sanctuary Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Veno is a good soloer. BUT it's extremely boring to play (in my opinion) AND don't forget: at higher lvls, you better get a Herc if you want to get into good squads. Get prepared to spend 80mil coins or 200 dollars on a Herc. Also, they are overrated just like BMs. b:surrender


    If played and skilled well, an Archer can solo everything (including some bosses), and they 1v1 grind faster than a Veno at higher lvls (Sometimes I duo with a Veno friend of mine and she is jealous of my killing speed xD). Unfortunately, people tend to forget about this class. It's easy to mess up an Archer and easy to say they suck. BUT we have awesome Archer guides in the forum. Read them.

    At low lvls, just create some life powders and you'll be safe. 1-20 goes fast, at 19 you get knockback and it makes your life easier. After mid lvls, mobs cannot even reach the Archer, so it's easy to stay alive. My Archer is lvl90 and maybe died only 10 times (mainly because of lag or disconnection). You don't need expensive gear and much defence because mobs won't be able to reach you. Get second wind genie skill and winged shell for emergencies. You only need decent (3star) armor for PVE, a good weapon, and you're done. Cheap and easy. If you want more attack speed, get interval gear. The gear depends on your playstyle, I personally prefer MP recovery. I have +9 MP recovery total on 3 armor pieces, I use low MP skills and normal attacks to kill mobs = NO MP potions required! I never carry potions with me anymore, not even HP, because I very rarely lose HP and Second wind is there to save my butt. Also, an Archer doesn't have to max out many skills, and they get their most important skills at low lvls. This makes Archer the cheapest class in game. ^^ (Unless you PVP, you need good gear for that. But I never PVP, so whatever).

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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I think that's why he said if people can dump a lot of money into the game it would be possible. Then you could just buy hyper xp stones & oracles and level to 90 in about 5 minutes.

    Thats like the... P-word b:sad
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i usually play veno and cleric and trust me a veno is better for soloing cause clerics will get out of mana (yes they are 1 of the most easy to solo class), while with venos that won't happen so much (of course u have to learn how to use your veno, your skills and your pet) which makes grinding and questing much faster.
    That's only true if you insist on sitting down to meditate to regen mana with the other casting classes. If you use mp pots, apothecary mp regen, or event yaunxiao, the other caster classes kill faster than the veno and the extra kill speed makes up for the cost of the pots/apo/yuanxiao.

    Where a veno shines is flexibility. Whether the mob uses physical attacks or magical attacks, whether the mob is resistant to physical damage or magical damage, the veno has all those cases covered. The other classes are typically weak in one or more of those areas.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    venos and sins? >.>

    wont doubt that sins CAN solo but im sure pple wanna solo EFFICIENTLY... which would turn out to be the veno.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Veno is a good soloer. BUT it's extremely boring to play (in my opinion) AND don't forget: at higher lvls, you better get a Herc if you want to get into good squads. Get prepared to spend 80mil coins or 200 dollars on a Herc. Also, they are overrated just like BMs. b:surrender


    Herc don't cost $200 dollars more like $125 depending on how much Sof you get out of each pack.I didn't pay that much for mine.
    Originally Posted by XmasBunny_ - Archosaur View Post
    i usually play veno and cleric and trust me a veno is better for soloing cause clerics will get out of mana (yes they are 1 of the most easy to solo class), while with venos that won't happen so much (of course u have to learn how to use your veno, your skills and your pet) which makes grinding and questing much faster.
    I have seen a Cleric AoE a poison mob with ease and not much usage of mana which Venos would have a hard time with even with herc and genie skills.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I have seen a Cleric AoE a poison mob with ease and not much usage of mana which Venos would have a hard time with even with herc and genie skills.

    Only on that o.0 ? (well since that was cleric specialty VS poison mob that no other class have) Veno can tell herc to activate bramble then gather mobs that only know melee attack.
    b:chuckle But takes quiet a time to kill all the mobs, and must be careful in case lag.
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  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Get prepared to spend 80mil coins or 200 dollars on a Herc.

    It didn't cost me 80 mil to get my Herc. Couple of months back when Battle Pet Packs were on sale, I was able to get my Herc for 50-55 mil. You're much better off buying those packs when they're on sale rather than buying sof's and pf's from people who want 6k or more for each one.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Only on that o.0 ? (well since that was cleric specialty VS posion mob that no other class have) Veno can tell herc to activate bramble then gather mobs that only know melee attack.
    b:chuckle But takes quiet a time to kill all the mobs, and must be careful in case lag.

    Believe me even with herc the poison stacking would be enough to kill it and this is magic mob not a melee mob so bramble wouldn't work.Clerics must have lvl 8 + purify.
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