Zerk Daggers

_Krue_ - Heavens Tear
_Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Assassin
Please? b:dirty
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Nirvana recast has a chance for bezerk
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Nirvana recast has a chance for bezerk

    I didn't know that :X

    I wish I could get lucky and make like a lvl 70 zerk dagger :[
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  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Nirvana daggers have a chance to get an "advanced" zerk.

    "God of Frenzy: A blessed frenzy warrior! Has a higher chance to deal double damage. Costs 5% Max HP."






    Not funny.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    axt57 wrote: »
    Nirvana daggers have a chance to get an "advanced" zerk.

    "God of Frenzy: A blessed frenzy warrior! Has a higher chance to deal double damage. Costs 5% Max HP."


    Not funny.

    That + 5aps is suicide = suicide

    and seriusly, why would you want zerk on fast attack weapons? That hurts you more than it hurts your target
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  • Plicid - Heavens Tear
    Plicid - Heavens Tear Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    for tripple spark headhunt from stealth of course.b:shocked
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That + 5aps is suicide = suicide

    and seriusly, why would you want zerk on fast attack weapons? That hurts you more than it hurts your target

    Normal daggers sparked are bad enough, but heavily refined G15 advanced zerk 5 aps sparked? You'd be dead in seconds and probably before the sin lost 1/3 of his life. I'm not even sure you could react quickly enough before being molested by such an assualt from a stealth class.

    Besides that, anyone who can afford those daggers and 5 aps will have a massive HP load - even thought the daggers work by %, it'll still be a buffer to whatever they are hit by; and it won't be many hits.

    Add to that their free chi skills, "kekekeke lets avoid magic and death" ability... I don't even want to imagine to what level of OP it'll ascend to.

    What the devs were thinking I have no idea.
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  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Well my sin isn't a -int sin, I go for DPH. So zerk daggers would be beautiful for me <33
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That + 5aps is suicide = suicide

    and seriusly, why would you want zerk on fast attack weapons? That hurts you more than it hurts your target

    bloodbath should mitigate a small bit of teh damage.
    b:chuckle
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    bloodbath should mitigate a small bit of teh damage.
    b:chuckle

    or BloodPaint
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  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I don't think an assassin can ever die from its own zerk! Because as soon as it hits it will recover a SMALL amount of HP!

    This is an interesting thing to test...

    Of course this would only be if the assassin was not tanking, and it was not being hit...
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Really? They really gave these little crit monsters Zerk? Ugh, they're already OP enough... they don't need Zerk. I'm losing faith in this game...
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    The zerk dagger actually already at pw database shortly after tideborn come out, it just not shown in weapon list before. (it listed as weapon now)

    Yeah i am also think zerk on sin will make bloodpaint recover more hp, only losing a little hp in the end. <.<
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  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    a sin only loses 3% HP from a zerk proc :]
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited May 2010
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a sin only loses 3% HP from a zerk proc :]

    Wouldn't it be 2% with sage or none at all with that one 79 skill?

    b:scorn
  • Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear
    Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear Posts: 916 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Lol no.

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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You people are forgetting that there is a difference between Zerk and Bloodpaint. Zerk takes from maximum HP, Bloodpaint gives from maximum damage dealt.

    Therefore, they will only equals if your damage = maximum life.

    Also, even if it was like that, it would be more complicated than that, as Zerk doubles the damage, so any hit after the proc would actually have 4% out of your normal damage recovered, instead of 2%.

    But again, that doesn't mean anything, unless there's a closer connection between the damage dealt and the life. Specifically, if your average damage is higher than your life, then the Zerk will have very little effect, in fact less than 1% of your maximum life.

    Though, personally, I'd wager a guess that unless you get procs on consecutive hits, you'd be able to recover the lost HP before the next proc.
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    But if the assassin critted on a Triple-Sparked Zerk hit...would they even lose any health? o.o
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  • Plicid - Heavens Tear
    Plicid - Heavens Tear Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    that depends which happens first in the programming if life is lost for Zerk(which I think it is since it is part of the cost of Zerking) or if you gain life for Bloodpaint. If you gain life before the life is lost you will still lose the 5% but it will probably be regained before the next zerk. if hp loss occurs first then you wont notice the HP loss unless you are low enough HPthat the advanced zerk will kill you.
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    zerk check:

    zerk axes (x)
    zerk sword (x)
    zerk pole (x)
    zerk fists (x)
    zerk daggers (x)
    ...
    zerk pataka ( ) WTF?!? OMG!!! NO!!! Pls Noooooooooo!!!
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • The_Wall - Heavens Tear
    The_Wall - Heavens Tear Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    An assassin hits 10,000 damage with (sacrificial strike)( Beserker) and has Lv: 1-10 or Demon Bloodpaint and they only have 4,000 HP themselves they would come out no taking damage or healing anything. Assassins have the same HP potential of Archers so unless your target has an enormous amount of physical defense/Defense level your going to end up healing yourself still.

    RAWR
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    zerk check:

    zerk axes (x)
    zerk sword (x)
    zerk pole (x)
    zerk fists (x)
    zerk daggers (x)
    ...
    zerk pataka ( ) WTF?!? OMG!!! NO!!! Pls Noooooooooo!!!

    me can has zerk's magical counterpart on me glaive?
    b:beg
    also yep
    triple spark + CotD + the other crit buffs = b:shocked + hp leeching
    silly humans.
    xD
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    me can has zerk's magical counterpart on me glaive?
    b:beg
    also yep
    triple spark + CotD + the other crit buffs = b:shocked + hp leeching
    silly humans.
    xD

    No no no. You do it this way:

    Zerk pataka, applies to magic hits too
    Bloodpaint works on magic hits too
    3 spark + spark pot
    Launch BIDS
    See it crit and zerk, press Print Screen and post the amount of damage given and HP healed to WC and see physical classes QQ...
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No no no. You do it this way:

    Zerk pataka, applies to magic hits too
    Bloodpaint works on magic hits too
    3 spark + spark pot
    Launch BIDS
    See it crit and zerk, press Print Screen and post the amount of damage given and HP healed to WC and see physical classes QQ...

    me can has sparked AoE zerk bloodpaint sage BIDS crit?
    b:beg
    actually get me the ability to post screenshots to WC
    lols!
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    me can has sparked AoE zerk bloodpaint sage BIDS crit?
    b:beg
    actually get me the ability to post screenshots to WC
    lols!

    Well, you are a hamster, so why not? I mean, your magic is more powerful than any BIDS... b:surrender

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  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i wants more zerky werky daggers
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  • Logan_Morgan - Lost City
    Logan_Morgan - Lost City Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    in case you guys havn't seen Identical's daggers on lost city

    zerkdaggers.jpg

    b:dirty
  • _Krue_ - Heavens Tear
    _Krue_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Logan_Morgan - Lost City wrote: »
    in case you guys havn't seen Identical's daggers on lost city

    zerkdaggers.jpg

    b:dirty

    My sin is on lost city and I've never seen those daggers...

    But my god please give me them...
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, you are a hamster, so why not? I mean, your magic is more powerful than any BIDS... b:surrender

    (Why my replies to Hamsta are always like this?)

    because me am awesomely fuzzy.
    b:thanks
    now go get yourself a nice cold drink and some noms.
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  • Vivetus - Sanctuary
    Vivetus - Sanctuary Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Zerk bow plx b:cry we hit physical too b:cute
  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I've been hit 17k damage when I was fully buffed with 9k pdef by plus 12 nirvana zerk daggers. Not funny.

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