The Elements - New Race (Poll included)
LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
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Ok. Now that the legal aspect is outta the way, I'll continue.
Back Story:
A long time ago, there existed a race that was seperate from the physcial world. They claimed aid to no side, they were what most would label "watchers". They observed the war since the beginning. They were the one's who provided the fire, earth, and water elements to the Wizard of the physical world. They providing the water, and spacial type element to the Psychic of the physical world. Allowing also the metal element to the Cleric of the physical world.
After the hundreds of years of fighting the "watchers" have decided to return to the physical world. Once more they have made their prediction, they have decided it's time for this war to come to it's closing chapter. The "watchers" have been split. Half have gone to the physical world to join the side of the Human, TideBorn, Winged Elfs, and Untamed. Meanwhile the other half have gone to aid the Wraiths.
The one's who sided with the "Good" side have been labeled as "Elements", while the one's who sided with the "Evil" side have been labeled as "E.E.", Evil Elements, and have been put on a K.O.S order from the Elements.
Now...Which side shall you come to aid?
Will you aid the Wraiths and finish out the final chapter of the war with the "Evil" side victorious? Or will you aid the "Good" side and finish our the final chapter of the war with the Humans, Untamed, Winged Elfs, and TideBorns being victorious?
Starting Zone: Clouds of Observance
Appearance: *TO BE ADDED*
Elements Good:
Classes:
Element - Fire/Water (HA/AA):
The Element - Fire/Water is the fighter of the Elements, they have become well adapt changing between the Heavy Armor for high HP, and the Arcane Armor for heavy DD from afar. They are the one's who became known as "Archangels" in the time of their gods.
Now they defend their race from all outsiders who wish to enter into their turf.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
Element - Light/Dark (LA/AA):
The Element - Light/Dark is the ranger of the Elements. He will be found standing ontop of a giant hill, or maybe a few feet back from an enemy. This Element is keen in quick movement, using the light and darkness control to bend the light to his control, or even use the darkness to transport himself around the map. A key destructive force for the Element race. They will even go out and take on an army to defend their race, a sacrifical warrior who is willing to die for the cause.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
Elements Evil:
Element - Wind/Metal:
The Element - Wind/Metal decided to stick to the evil side. Their personality has somewhat altered from an observer. They are now more active, and have a desire to kill almost anything that moves. They have even been known to attack each other just out of pure desire to kill. This Element has been corrupted to the point of no-return. So they have been put on all Element Good K.O.S. list because they wish to rid their race of these corrupted indiviuals.
Now these "creatures" fight daily for their life, and have become basic killing machines. Their wraith energy backing them up, they are true monsters.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
Element - Void:
They Element - Void are the soul person the Wraith energy can't corrupt. They have been a "pure" version of Wraith energy. They are able to think on a more advance level of thought. Able to conform the void of anything in the world to their will. The energy they recieved from the Wraith side, to which they purified, has now become the new tool for the Wraiths. Even the leaders of the army of the Wraiths fear these new "Super" Wraiths. These Elements have yet to be put on the Element Good K.O.S. order, yet most of their race silently fights with them on their higher plane thought.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
NOTE: All names are Subject to change. Images will not be subject to change, unless someone can provide a more detailed and designed image.
Descriptions may be altered based on what others re-word it as, or even re-write it to make more sense.
Anything in this thread is subject to change this post for the better, never for the worse.
Ok. Now that the legal aspect is outta the way, I'll continue.
Back Story:
A long time ago, there existed a race that was seperate from the physcial world. They claimed aid to no side, they were what most would label "watchers". They observed the war since the beginning. They were the one's who provided the fire, earth, and water elements to the Wizard of the physical world. They providing the water, and spacial type element to the Psychic of the physical world. Allowing also the metal element to the Cleric of the physical world.
After the hundreds of years of fighting the "watchers" have decided to return to the physical world. Once more they have made their prediction, they have decided it's time for this war to come to it's closing chapter. The "watchers" have been split. Half have gone to the physical world to join the side of the Human, TideBorn, Winged Elfs, and Untamed. Meanwhile the other half have gone to aid the Wraiths.
The one's who sided with the "Good" side have been labeled as "Elements", while the one's who sided with the "Evil" side have been labeled as "E.E.", Evil Elements, and have been put on a K.O.S order from the Elements.
Now...Which side shall you come to aid?
Will you aid the Wraiths and finish out the final chapter of the war with the "Evil" side victorious? Or will you aid the "Good" side and finish our the final chapter of the war with the Humans, Untamed, Winged Elfs, and TideBorns being victorious?
Starting Zone: Clouds of Observance
Appearance: *TO BE ADDED*
Elements Good:
Classes:
Element - Fire/Water (HA/AA):
The Element - Fire/Water is the fighter of the Elements, they have become well adapt changing between the Heavy Armor for high HP, and the Arcane Armor for heavy DD from afar. They are the one's who became known as "Archangels" in the time of their gods.
Now they defend their race from all outsiders who wish to enter into their turf.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
Element - Light/Dark (LA/AA):
The Element - Light/Dark is the ranger of the Elements. He will be found standing ontop of a giant hill, or maybe a few feet back from an enemy. This Element is keen in quick movement, using the light and darkness control to bend the light to his control, or even use the darkness to transport himself around the map. A key destructive force for the Element race. They will even go out and take on an army to defend their race, a sacrifical warrior who is willing to die for the cause.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
Elements Evil:
Element - Wind/Metal:
The Element - Wind/Metal decided to stick to the evil side. Their personality has somewhat altered from an observer. They are now more active, and have a desire to kill almost anything that moves. They have even been known to attack each other just out of pure desire to kill. This Element has been corrupted to the point of no-return. So they have been put on all Element Good K.O.S. list because they wish to rid their race of these corrupted indiviuals.
Now these "creatures" fight daily for their life, and have become basic killing machines. Their wraith energy backing them up, they are true monsters.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
Element - Void:
They Element - Void are the soul person the Wraith energy can't corrupt. They have been a "pure" version of Wraith energy. They are able to think on a more advance level of thought. Able to conform the void of anything in the world to their will. The energy they recieved from the Wraith side, to which they purified, has now become the new tool for the Wraiths. Even the leaders of the army of the Wraiths fear these new "Super" Wraiths. These Elements have yet to be put on the Element Good K.O.S. order, yet most of their race silently fights with them on their higher plane thought.
Skills:
*TO BE ADDED*
NOTE: All names are Subject to change. Images will not be subject to change, unless someone can provide a more detailed and designed image.
Descriptions may be altered based on what others re-word it as, or even re-write it to make more sense.
Anything in this thread is subject to change this post for the better, never for the worse.
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UPDATE 5/13/10 12:06 (Eastern) PM: Finished editing all of the first post.
Still to Finish: Skills, Extra Detail, Backstory, Images.0 -
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If you read the quest storylines, you'll know that the genies represent the elements already9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0
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I wouldn't consider genies elements what-so-ever. They are just tools who channel the energy of the Elements.
They are not respenters of the Elements.0 -
Read the story lines. The genies are evolved elements from another plane of existance, that entered our world through warsong citty to aid in our combat against the wraiths9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0
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Idc. Genies = Genies. Genies =/= Elements.
When I say Elements, I personally mean Elemental's. Beings who can control the Elements to their will without need for evolvtion. They began when the universe began, they have lived through it all, seen anything needed to be seen, and are true elements.
Genies are just little items that barely aid combat for any player in this game.
Seirously, When do you ever see a player SPAMMING genie skills? Unless that player is f-in godly rich, it is a rarity to see a skill spam.0 -
You get 100perfect stones on most FC runs. YES, at higher lvls people spam genie skils.9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0
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<--been in squads, and fought against, people lvl 90+
NONE of them spam genie skills. Hell the only skill i've ever seen used by any class is TE, and that was a BM using it to finish off a squishy class.0 -
look go read the story lines about genies or give this idea up no point in arguing about something you are completly unaware of
also how the hell would an evil race work out considering the cant do dailys etc since cities like arch are fighting against the wraith0 -
Evil race would be a benefit to ALL Old players.
Many of them would love the fact that it is Quest + Grinding instead of "Dailies, Dailies, Dailies, Hyper Exp, Oracles, etc, etc, etc"
I know I personally would roll on the Evil Side, so that I could actually grind the lvl's like I used to (>T_T)>0 -
Where is the poll? b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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I would add it, but Instead of "Preview" it somehow posted it before I could add the poll....and now it won't let me do an advance edit....So poll not able to be added >.<!!!0
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LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »Evil race would be a benefit to ALL Old players.
Many of them would love the fact that it is Quest + Grinding instead of "Dailies, Dailies, Dailies, Hyper Exp, Oracles, etc, etc, etc"
I know I personally would roll on the Evil Side, so that I could actually grind the lvl's like I used to (>T_T)>
ok im gonna ask you again how would an evil side fit in the game
they cant squad with other classes because all other classes fight the wraith
they cant go grinding,questing in areas from the current world because they would have to fight the wraith you cant go killing your own allies can you?
also even if they did fight mobs in the current world the few people who stil quest should be pking them with no penalty beats the idea off pve servers doesnt it?
now if you can give me an awnser to this i might say this idea is any good0 -
BarbLord - Raging Tide wrote: »ok im gonna ask you again how would an evil side fit in the game
they cant squad with other classes because all other classes fight the wraith
they cant go grinding,questing in areas from the current world because they would have to fight the wraith you cant go killing your own allies can you?
also even if they did fight mobs in the current world the few people who stil quest should be pking them with no penalty beats the idea off pve servers doesnt it?
now if you can give me an awnser to this i might say this idea is any good
In before a reference to World of ********.
Also, at level 90, you start getting an easy daily quest in Old Heaven's Tear that rewards you with Tears of Heaven, which, together with Luminostones and Golden Sculptures, which can be farmed, gotten from TTs or bought from players at really cheap prices, can be made into OHT gear, which requires level 1 crafts and decomposes into Perfect Stones, unless they're 3 star, in which case Mirages. And you can do 1 wristguard per daily, with 1 Tear being leftover. And they decompose into 70 Perfect Stones, which gives 50,400 Stamina.
And personally, yes, I do "spam" genie skills. I use Tree of Protection for heals often, I use Holy Path to travel or get away from mobs, I use Extreme Poison on Bosses and Increased Defense or Increased Life mobs or if I am getting attacked by multiple mobs.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
Everyone wants to be different, but when you're different you wish you were normal.0 -
Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »In before a reference to World of ********.
Also, at level 90, you start getting an easy daily quest in Old Heaven's Tear that rewards you with Tears of Heaven, which, together with Luminostones and Golden Sculptures, which can be farmed, gotten from TTs or bought from players at really cheap prices, can be made into OHT gear, which requires level 1 crafts and decomposes into Perfect Stones, unless they're 3 star, in which case Mirages. And you can do 1 wristguard per daily, with 1 Tear being leftover. And they decompose into 70 Perfect Stones, which gives 50,400 Stamina.
And personally, yes, I do "spam" genie skills. I use Tree of Protection for heals often, I use Holy Path to travel or get away from mobs, I use Extreme Poison on Bosses and Increased Defense or Increased Life mobs or if I am getting attacked by multiple mobs.
okay when did i say people dont spam genie skills at higher levels never
and i knew about some OHT daily and easy perfect stones how it exactly worked i stil had no idea and i stil have some questions about it but since i level slowly at my own pace instead off bh spam its not important for now atleast
im not the "genius" who came up with this idea you know i have been here since november 08 never hitted 90 since i never bothered to level alot and i just rerolled on RT
overal i think this idea has 2 problems first the dark race which would require way to much programming to be implented anyway if you know our devs it wont happen
second the genies which are exactly this idea just in another form0 -
BarbLord - Raging Tide wrote: »okay when did i say people dont spam genie skills at higher levels never
and i knew about some OHT daily and easy perfect stones how it exactly worked i stil had no idea and i stil have some questions about it but since i level slowly at my own pace instead off bh spam its not important for now atleast
im not the "genius" who came up with this idea you know i have been here since november 08 never hitted 90 since i never bothered to level alot and i just rerolled on RT
overal i think this idea has 2 problems first the dark race which would require way to much programming to be implented anyway if you know our devs it wont happen
second the genies which are exactly this idea just in another form
... I was referring to the topic starter, who apparently doesn't think Genies are useful.
Wel, personally, I was on that line for quite long, I went around with a crappy Zeal. Just recently, I spent about 9,000,000 (that's 9 million) spirit to level up a new genie, and believe me, I am using it just about wherever I go.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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BarbLord - Raging Tide wrote: »
how the hell would an evil race work out considering the cant do dailys etc since cities like arch are fighting against the wraith
^what this dude said[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]<3 by Silvy
Reborn ditzy archer with a serious oreo addiction =3
'...cuz my IQ is just above what is required to function as a human' - tsumaru20 -
BarbLord - Raging Tide wrote: »ok im gonna ask you again how would an evil side fit in the game
they cant squad with other classes because all other classes fight the wraith
they cant go grinding,questing in areas from the current world because they would have to fight the wraith you cant go killing your own allies can you?
also even if they did fight mobs in the current world the few people who stil quest should be pking them with no penalty beats the idea off pve servers doesnt it?
now if you can give me an awnser to this i might say this idea is any good
Well. Since it's no longer early in the morning (was 2 AM when i was thinking to respond...but that would of been very wrong because my brain wasn't working at that time x.x)
The way the Evil side would work into the game is probably simpler then most would think. If you see back to the Backstory and the questions posed, it states that this would enter the war into the "Final Chapter". So to say, a new map could be added. Almost like a flip map of the regular PWI map. Instead of monsters to kill, the Evil Side would go around killing "players", this would give them set exp depending on player level, just like a normal mob does for us.
If you remember how some mobs seem to be stronger then what they are? (Increase stats) Those mobs could be the one's controlled by the Evil side to do their attacking for them.
Quests for the Evil side would more then likely (If I were the one who had to name them, and set what was needed to complete each one) be that of P.K.'ing. They would need to kill a set amount of players on the "Good PWI" map side, using the wraith mobs that have already made their way into that world. These "Quests" would continue until the Evil Side player makes it to lvl 30. At that time, they will be presented with the option of "Do you wish to stay in the "Evil PWI Map" or do you wish to go to the "Good PWI Map" and create havoc?"
If they chose to stay in the Evil PWI Map, then they would gain a lvl bonus of +5. Which would then prompt them again "Do you wish to transfer maps?" if they said no again, if would then stop asking them and say "Alright, then you shall be stuck in this map until further notice." (To which it wouldn't be until lvl 80 when they are asked again if they wish to transfer, at such time, they only have the choice of "Yes")
If they chose to transfer maps at lvl 30, then they would be sent to the "Good PWI Map" side, and be either a "White Named" or listed under "Wraiths". This depends on how they selected their options when reading the prompt at level 30 on the "Evil PWI Map" side.
So, does this sound like a nice answer? Or do you want me to explain more in detail?0 -
Since you refuse to listen to what others appear to claim,I shall pinpoint your errors for your eyes.
1.How the heck is a class gonna go both HA and AA.AA requires 3 mag/0.5str per lvl and ha requires 3 str/0.5dex per lvl.That would come to 7 points needed per lvl to use both HA and AA of your lvl.
2.Your "Fire/Water" and "Light/Dark" appear to be both able to use range effectively.Why is only one the "ranger" of the 2
3.How are the evil classes gonna do all the stuff other classes do.
4.Your "Light/Dark" seem to sound ridiculously like what a sin is.Ability to teleport and PK gods
5.If something is made up of wraith energy,how is it possible to say it cannot be tainted by wraint energy when it already is tainted by wraith energy.And since even wraitsh fear it,the world should be at an end now0 -
Kage:
1. I never said that they used the HA or AA of their lvl. I said they could use either depending on their build. But if they wish they can use HA mainly, and use a set of AA that is a lower lvl then them to do the few "Range" attacks they have.
2. They both have ranged abilities (Which if you would of commented AFTER I added in skills you would see) but, only the Light/Dark have the set amount to be called a "Ranger" class.
3. Please refer to the post above yours.
4. Please wait until skills are added in to judge that.
5. It is a "Purified" form of Wraith Energy, not to say they aren't "tainted" but they a "Purer" form. Which is why most other Wraiths fear them (including a few higher ups in the Wraith Chain).0 -
Personally, I think the 'evil' things are much more complicated than you think. Even with your explanation, it's still very complicated, and doesn't quite fit in with everything else in game. Sorry, but things that make sense to you might not make sense to everyone else.
And technically, I do think the genies are the 'elemental' race of PWI. That would make them less like the way we think of genies (the wish granting creatures that come from lamps), and more like a fairy race or some such. I actually made a race/class idea with a similar premise quite awhile ago. (you can find it here, as long as you don't try and necro it or anything if you want to see how I tried getting around that little issue).
The idea is nice, it just needs some refinement and alterations to be really usable.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Lairian: I'm still gonna try and tweak my idea <.<
But I can see what your saying.
Considering the Evil Side of the Elements race would be very new and not seen before, it would probably confuse the heck outta alot of people and make the game creators needing to add a guide of some sort to explain the things....and as we all know PWI people are very f-in lazy when it comes to dealing with the players.0 -
Evil/Good. There is something like that already, not quite the same, but sage/demon??
I don't think it would be like an 89 element evil goes demon as well.. sounds strange to me, bit double again...
Besides, in other versions of PW there isn't a Tideborn class, that's only in PWi, therefore I don't think they will add ANOTHER race on PWi alone.
I also agree that the whole element thing is nothing new, since the genies are here (topic discussed already, I know).
Also, we have now 8 classes and I think that's enough, I know there are people who like to have more than one character, but this is just my opinion.
So if there is a poll (somewhere?) I vote definitely no![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
And how would a player who is like a wraith lvl up?
So basicly, the idea is that I (as a 'good' player, kill every single 'evil' players, and the evil players kill the good players.
It's called a PvP server.
Ok, what EVERYONE has been saying so far:
An 'evil' race wouldn't work, because the whole playerbase is fighting againts the evil creatures
PS, there is not going to be a new race for a LONG time anyway, the current new race isn't even completed yet. Why you even worying about it?9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »PS, there is not going to be a new race for a LONG time anyway, the current new race isn't even completed yet. Why you even worying about it?
b:victory hey sir! yeah I don't think they will come up with a new race until tideborns are complete. Don't give the devs too much work or we'll end up with more bugs than we already have!
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Indeed, they just finished the SC of the Tiderborns, I suggest you do some (more) pre-search before you start something new...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »Evil race would be a benefit to ALL Old players.
Many of them would love the fact that it is Quest + Grinding instead of "Dailies, Dailies, Dailies, Hyper Exp, Oracles, etc, etc, etc"
I know I personally would roll on the Evil Side, so that I could actually grind the lvl's like I used to (>T_T)>
Then don't do dailies, hyper exp or oracles? I don't ever rely on that fail implement in the first place at all either. I wish I was more active though >_>.
Quest, grind, farming your own LVL FBs, rebirth, etc. There are a lot more efficient ways to LVL without them failed dailies.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool
VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
HA > LA > AR... GG
HA + VIT = win b:bye0 -
An evil and a good race? Hm. Well, basically okay for the good race, idea is nice, too.
Somehow Im reminded of another certain game (the one with the rings and those lords, get it?^^) with the feature "monster play" ... When you reach a certain level on the "good side", you can join the evil monsters and kill players on a map.
Anyway... good luck.0 -
Pchan - Dreamweaver wrote: »b:victory hey sir! yeah I don't think they will come up with a new race until tideborns are complete. Don't give the devs too much work or we'll end up with more bugs than we already have!
Hi Pchan, weren't you lvl 90 already?
Need to uptade your avatar b:laugh9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0
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