Wiz Build questions

Adamaeus - Dreamweaver
Adamaeus - Dreamweaver Posts: 12 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Wizard
Hey

About to start a wiz on HT server. I read a lot of post on this site on wiz builds and I feel they helped me a lot..but I'm still a little iffy on certain things.
I'm considering the pure build ( heard it was the best one) ..but have a few ?'s before I start.

(I.E I know nothing about wizzes..so If i'm asking silly questions..give me a break)


1.) Should I use the pure build all the way thru...or should switch up to Hybrid at a certain point?

2.) Vit: Is it even worth doing? From what I read..most feel it's useless since you don't get much out of it. But i've read about people who added vit to their build who actually like it..so I'm stuck at a crossroad here. From what I read..Vit plays a part in physical and mag. def...somthing I think would do some good for my wiz. Idk..just get back to me on that.
And if yes to adding...what should be the capping point?

3.) Dex: I know it seems silly to ask..but won't hurt asking. Does it play a part in anything to a wiz? Coming from me playing with melee classes, dex played a part in crits and evasion..but Idk how that is with a mag. user, (ex. wiz). Get back to me on that one as well.



That its. Look forward to hearing from you guys and girls soon. Hope to get some good advice. : )
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  • Nyano - Sanctuary
    Nyano - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'm going to try to cover all the points here.. so bare with me if i miss something.

    I play a wizard. Always have and always will. People that use the pure magic build either have no exp as a caster or like being squishy(When you go to the gym, do you only work on one mucle the whole time? Cover your weaknesses!). If you do use the pure build, yes you will hit like a beast, but at the same time you are jello.. Going solo (as wizards often do) will not be easy. Should you choose this, restat for LA around lvl45-55.

    As for vit, no, we dont benifit much from it, but the little hp it adds is helpful. Nothing beats having that spare 200hp padding to give you time to heal ^_^. It does not add much def alone(get some gear on your naked self for the full benifit). The strength stat for phys def and magic stat for magic def mostly. For vit, I personally have mine capped at 60 without gear.

    Dex is just as nice for us. (Anyone reading this, try my build to 50 then whine.*) Being able to crit often is nice. How often however is your call. My dex is 40, though 20 is fine. (Im going demon, bonus crits!) Evasion is nice for melee classes. I don't see evasion effecting a mobs magic accuracy really.

    What ever you decide, I hope it works out for you.

    * 1 vit, 1 str, 1 dex 7 mag every two levels. When my dex hit 40 I started adding the spare point to magic. Once str hit 51, it became 2 vit, 8 mag. It works for me. Im balanced, though still arcane. I still hit hard and can take a beating.

    EDIT- thank you Cholla, i was thinking some on my info was wrong when i clicked reply.. i pulled the max str comment and altered the effects of vit.
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  • Nyano - Sanctuary
    Nyano - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I fixed the info. But no, I'm not doing light armor. My damage doesnt suffer one bit. Logic suffers. Wizards hit hard even with the minimal magic stats for the gear. It comes down to personal choice. All i did was toss out a suggestion with info ive seen playing a wiz first hand. But please keep in mind, Im still a nub. Yes, my info is not forum quoted or supported. But its enough to get by and force people to learn the same way.
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  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    My suggestion is simple: if you plan to spend some RL money on your wizard or if you are excellent merchant/coins farmer - go pure magic. You will hit hard and refines/shards will provide enough defence.

    If you don't plan to charge Zen and don't have much time to merchant/farm coins - I suggest pure magic +50 Vit, at least at levels 1-90.

    Summarizing:
    Pure magic build wizard will be focused on refining armors. Vit hybrid will refine weapon more but can get away with low armor refines.



    Small amount of Dex (20 or 40) can be useful at lower levels but after lvl 77 all "accuracy" classes use Misty Forest rings which nullify the purpose of having a bit of extra evasion as a wizard.
    It's easy to get nice amount of crit with only rings and Christmas tome.
    We don't benefit from accuracy bonus Dex provides.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Hey

    About to start a wiz on HT server. I read a lot of post on this site on wiz builds and I feel they helped me a lot..but I'm still a little iffy on certain things.
    I'm considering the pure build ( heard it was the best one) ..but have a few ?'s before I start.

    (I.E I know nothing about wizzes..so If i'm asking silly questions..give me a break)


    1.) Should I use the pure build all the way thru...or should switch up to Hybrid at a certain point?

    2.) Vit: Is it even worth doing? From what I read..most feel it's useless since you don't get much out of it. But i've read about people who added vit to their build who actually like it..so I'm stuck at a crossroad here. From what I read..Vit plays a part in physical and mag. def...somthing I think would do some good for my wiz. Idk..just get back to me on that.
    And if yes to adding...what should be the capping point?

    3.) Dex: I know it seems silly to ask..but won't hurt asking. Does it play a part in anything to a wiz? Coming from me playing with melee classes, dex played a part in crits and evasion..but Idk how that is with a mag. user, (ex. wiz). Get back to me on that one as well.



    That its. Look forward to hearing from you guys and girls soon. Hope to get some good advice. : )

    why do you plan to abandon your BM at 81? That's the moment when BMs start to shine.

    Wizard...well, read Seraphim's guide. That guy know what he's talking about. Anyway, "you're in for a hell of a ride " if you choose wizard. Since HT is a PvE, go full mag, add vitality if you die too much. Shop ahead for good weapons/3* gears, TT gear is not worth it for wizards below TT90 (and even then, only 3 pieces are worth it).
    It's a very squishie and very expensive class to level/gear up.
    Try it, see if you like it, but since you're used to the BMs survival be prepared to die a lot :)
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  • Adamaeus - Dreamweaver
    Adamaeus - Dreamweaver Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Thx for all the responses. Helped alot. Got a pretty good idea on what I want to do now


    And no..I'm not ditching my 81 bm : ) . Just want to try out somthing new.



    Thx again yall. b:victory
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    hm i was LA until~ 55 and then restated to pure and surprisingly i have to say in my personal experience the pure build rly is worth being more squishy. When i restated i wrote down my clean stats and compared to my LA build the average dmg was 300 more which some might consider as peanuts but i had a permanent mana prob because the 300 dmg less each attack meant 1 extra cast to finish up the mob. Furthermore i often got hit before i could finish this last cast which meant i took another hit. Now with the pure build my mana jumped up for about 2k which saves me a lot of pots. I also grind with frost barrier instead of earth barrier because the mana regeneration rly pays off and the def increase of earth wouldnt help me that much.

    I know im squishy with about 1.45k hp on lvl 66 but i will try to get phys res attributes on the stuff + vit shades to get rid of my two weaknesses. I have to add here that im not out for pvp until im lets say 90+ so atm my pure build sux in duel with any caster/range class

    i simply didnt put vit because 1 point vit = 10 hp and even cheap hp shards give like 25 so i rather took the mag for more mana

    greetz harmOwnie
  • NonameWiz - Sanctuary
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    From an very old old old post.

    End-game wizard build: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=236122

    Haven't reached this yet b:cry
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