What wepon should i go for?

Tivas - Archosaur
Tivas - Archosaur Posts: 306 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Wizard
Fellow wizard need some help here.

What wepobn shoul i keep goin on TT tree?

I know have the TT70 ashuras light(i think thats the name, give 10 points in mag)

Should i go for the galive or keep going with the sword?

Thing is the path of my wep iin my opinion is good for the 80 sword bad for the 90 sword(plus sword look ****) but at 99 i can get the soulgem for the TT99 gold sword the 3 critical bonusses really make me b:dirty(i got atmm 5 per cent critical with no dex added.

Tell pro ones wt u think sell my TT 70 and go for the glaive path or keep geting down on the sword way?

Ty for replys
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    get a nice 70 one, use it until 85.
    Get a frost wand there, the HP bonus will help you in those endless Frost runs.
    You can search either for a lunar wand/sword at 95 or use the Frost wand until 99.
    At 99 - I would say go for Inferno (HP and crit).
    I love my Lunar wand however. Not many wizards like wands endgame, but I actually love it.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    get a nice 70 one, use it until 85.
    Get a frost wand there, the HP bonus will help you in those endless Frost runs.
    You can search either for a lunar wand/sword at 95 or use the Frost wand until 99.
    At 99 - I would say go for Inferno (HP and crit).
    I love my Lunar wand however. Not many wizards like wands endgame, but I actually love it.

    I have wand also. And I love it. But it's not our end game weapon. We will use it just for VERY long time.b:chuckle
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    lol, yeah, I'm gonna use it for very, very, very long time...lol
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  • Tivas - Archosaur
    Tivas - Archosaur Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    You are telling me that frost wand is better than TT 80?
  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The frost wand has a little better damage, but you can make your tt80 yaksa or endless ambiguity last until 90 easily too. Yaksa for pdef, Endless for the HP
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The frost wand has a little better damage, but you can make your tt80 yaksa or endless ambiguity last until 90 easily too. Yaksa for pdef, Endless for the HP

    not really. even a +4 Requiem blade does more damage than a +6 Yaksa. So in the 90s, unless you have a Frost weapon, TT80 is not an option.
    Tivas - Archosaur wrote: »
    You are telling me that frost wand is better than TT 80?

    take these as example (some **** old builds I had saved):
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=4c57d3c45d61c143 - yaksa build at 85
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8f30cfe82fe62a89 - sensoid build at 85

    and I considered Sensoid only +5, but you're going to find a lot of +7s out there, with 1 or two saphire shards on them.
    400 more HP is more valuable than 400 more pdef. And those builds are actually ****, I'm sure with some nice rings and ornaments you can use around that lvl.
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  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    not really. even a +4 Requiem blade does more damage than a +6 Yaksa. So in the 90s, unless you have a Frost weapon, TT80 is not an option.

    Right, but for people who wouldn't be able to afford an 85 wand, the tt80 would be just fine until 90 ijs
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    get the legendary 70 weapon sakyamuni's light and then get glaives of divinity at 79. at 85 switch to golden FF (any will do). for 90+ you can get a golden lunar (any except the pataka) or rank 6.

    @Ursa
    You compare Yaksa to Glaives of Divinity and Requiem Blade to TT90.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    yes because they are in the same range.
    Yaksa is the best option at 80, but becomes obsolete at 85. Frost weapon is better on stats, refines better and can last you a long while - until 95 at least.TT90 weapons are only good to be decomposed now for making TT99, they really have no use since Frost decently refine is on par and at 95 are severely underpowered compared to Lunar.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Actually Ursa a Aquadash only does 100 ish more damage than a tt90 glaive at same refines and shards.

    tt90 glaive can still compare with lunar most likely.
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    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Actually Ursa a Aquadash only does 100 ish more damage than a tt90 glaive at same refines and shards.

    tt90 glaive can still compare with lunar most likely.

    in terms of base weapon damage (not considering adds which can be defensive, offensive and so on) TT90 (lvl11) is more powerful than green FF (lvl10) but weaker than golden FF (lvl12). to make a straight comparison, golden FF matches TT99 and golden lunar matches TT100.

    The stats of Wheel of Denied Fate are:
    unrefined = 665-997
    +7 refined = 199 damage gain
    Magic Attack +77
    Channelling -3%
    Magic +14~15

    The stats of Aquadash are:
    unrefined = 678-1017
    +7 refined = 258 damage gain
    Magic Attack +70
    Channelling -3%
    Magic +14~15

    The stats of Buddha's Leaf (most defensive golden lunar weapon) are:
    unrefined = 831-1016
    +7 refined = 278 damage gain
    Phys. Res.: +240
    Vitality +16~17
    Reduce Physical damage taken +3%

    So, comparing the TT90 glaive to the golden FF one the difference is only 6-13 damage but once you refine it the higher grade weapon shows its true colours. Let's not forget the frostland weapon has lvl requeriment 85 while the TT one can't be equipped until lvl 90. Just as reference, I've included Buddha's Leaf which seems weak in damage due to the defensive additionals but it's actually much more powerful than the TT90.
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  • xarathos
    xarathos Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    meh i would just use that lv 80 glaive (maybe 2-3mil) til 90.. maybe +3 or +4 refined.. its good nuff lol (compared to 20mil for Aquadash)
    then at 90 a wodf (4-5mil) +5.. is good nuff lol (so its 8mil for tt80+90 while 85gold fc costs like 20mil).. can use it easily til 99
    and at 99 i will use that golden magic sword and plus it like crazy

    or when i got lucky with packs..

    tt80 green glaive
    tt90 green glaive wodf
    lunar 95 neon and plus it like crazy lol.. but then i wouldnt need tt99 so fast.. so i would plus it like crazy til i got mats for nirvana lol
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    in terms of base weapon damage (not considering adds which can be defensive, offensive and so on) TT90 (lvl11) is more powerful than green FF (lvl10) but weaker than golden FF (lvl12). to make a straight comparison, golden FF matches TT99 and golden lunar matches TT100.

    The stats of Wheel of Denied Fate are:
    unrefined = 665-997
    +7 refined = 199 damage gain
    Magic Attack +77
    Channelling -3%
    Magic +14~15

    The stats of Aquadash are:
    unrefined = 678-1017
    +7 refined = 258 damage gain
    Magic Attack +70
    Channelling -3%
    Magic +14~15

    The stats of Buddha's Leaf (most defensive golden lunar weapon) are:
    unrefined = 831-1016
    +7 refined = 278 damage gain
    Phys. Res.: +240
    Vitality +16~17
    Reduce Physical damage taken +3%

    So, comparing the TT90 glaive to the golden FF one the difference is only 6-13 damage but once you refine it the higher grade weapon shows its true colours. Let's not forget the frostland weapon has lvl requeriment 85 while the TT one can't be equipped until lvl 90. Just as reference, I've included Buddha's Leaf which seems weak in damage due to the defensive additionals but it's actually much more powerful than the TT90.

    You wont notice that until +7 ish(who +7 a FF weapon?).

    I trade my WoDF +5 for a Aquadash +5 (my friend needed WoDF for a decomp) and my damage only went up 100 ish.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    wait, u decompose something with +5 refines o.O?
    i like potato
  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You wont notice that until +7 ish(who +7 a FF weapon?).

    I trade my WoDF +5 for a Aquadash +5 (my friend needed WoDF for a decomp) and my damage only went up 100 ish.

    The final damage of Aquadash +7 (glaive) is 1006-1345 (including the +70 attack add) while the golden TT99 Fate Denial: Godspeed (glaive) +7 is 957-1326.

    Though I prefer the TT99 adds, equipping a weapon with similar damage 14 levels before and then being able to sell is a killer deal.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wait, u decompose something with +5 refines o.O?
    ya why not
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The final damage of Aquadash +7 (glaive) is 1006-1345 (including the +70 attack add) while the golden TT99 Fate Denial: Godspeed (glaive) +7 is 957-1326.

    Though I prefer the TT99 adds, equipping a weapon with similar damage 14 levels before and then being able to sell is a killer deal.

    I know but im saying that tt90 glaive isnt a super bad weapon. As Ursa said the tt90 weapons are only good for decomposing and im saying WoDF has good damage too....
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze

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