System req? Buying new comp

Furries - Dreamweaver
Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Support Desk
My computer is getting rather old now and I'm thinking of replacing it.

As it is now i can pretty much only run the game in "best performance" mode
the comp (laptop) im using now has

single core 2 GHz
1024 MB ram
and an ATI mMoblity FireGL V5000 128 MB graphics card

I know a lot about computers and have built some. but i need to know what stats my new machine should have for what i want it to do.

i want to me able to run the game

in 1680x1050

with terrain as seen normally (not the grass type, like best performance mode)
in west district and 80v80 TW with a normal screen refresh rate

i want distance to be on med
and water to be on med

what stats will i need?
Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
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  • Della_Brown - Heavens Tear
    Della_Brown - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Are you getting a desktop or notebook?

    What is your budget?
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  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, what is your budget?

    Aiming for a desktop or laptop?

    Do not aim for getting a netbook if you have any 3d gaming desires. That is like running a Dodge Viper on a gokart track. The Viper is PWI, the netbook is the gokart track. Compatibility and lag issues will drive you crazy. b:victory
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    TW isn't easy for me (on my CPU) so aim something higher than this if you want everything perfectly smooth:

    2.2 Pentium dual core
    4gb DDR2 ram (2 will work, it's not the ram that's at fault)
    GeForce 8600GT 512mb

    A note to be made is that these are my specs, my machine and my tweaks and settings. my problem is my processor it has some problems handling TW instances in more intense areas. And seeing as you are planing to use a barb I wold suggect you shoot much higher on your processor. Just fair warning.
    I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Della_Brown - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Are you getting a desktop or notebook?

    What is your budget?

    as much as i want a desktop, its going to have to be a laptop, as i need portability for school

    i have about $870

    but as i dont really want to empty my ENTIRE bank account. i was hoping to go for less than that.

    i know for a gaming laptop that is really pushing it. and i don't think I'm going to be able to meet the standards i put for myself under my current budget.

    if i could find a damn job in this blasted economy, budget wouldn't be so much of an issue.

    but with no $ coming in, wiping out my account doesn't seem like the best of ideas

    it doesn't seem like I'm going to be able to get picky with my choices
    Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Let me get settled in to the office here, and I'll give you my suggestions today. b:victory
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  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ok, here are some for you.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B2+Duo+Processor+-+Black/9701931.p?id=1218153002507&skuId=9701931

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220715

    http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1958209


    When shopping, here are some things to look for:

    Hard drive: Speed at least 5400rpms - Size, up to you.

    CPU: Dual Core or i3 equivalent

    RAM: 4GB if you can

    OS: Windows 7 Premium 64bit. 7 Home is ok, and 7 Ultimate is pointless.

    Video: nVidia GeForce 9600 equivalent or higher, VGA or DVI and HDMI out

    Misc: Latest Wi-Fi standards, 3 or more USB 2.0 ports, Optical DVD-ROM/R/RW drive, multi memory card reader (optional but helpful), and a good padded backpack to carry it in.

    If you can go into a store and try typing half a page on it and see how the keys feel, as well as the touchpad. Also consider a mouse to go with it, to help make it easier to use and play/work.

    My personal preferences for gear right now is ASUS, Logitech and nVidia.
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    a good gaming desktop under $600:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229159
    I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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  • Furries - Dreamweaver
    Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    darthpanda16 wrote: »
    Ok, here are some for you.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B2+Duo+Processor+-+Black/9701931.p?id=1218153002507&skuId=9701931

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220715

    http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1958209


    When shopping, here are some things to look for:

    Hard drive: Speed at least 5400rpms - Size, up to you.

    CPU: Dual Core or i3 equivalent

    RAM: 4GB if you can

    OS: Windows 7 Premium 64bit. 7 Home is ok, and 7 Ultimate is pointless.

    Video: nVidia GeForce 9600 equivalent or higher, VGA or DVI and HDMI out

    Misc: Latest Wi-Fi standards, 3 or more USB 2.0 ports, Optical DVD-ROM/R/RW drive, multi memory card reader (optional but helpful), and a good padded backpack to carry it in.

    If you can go into a store and try typing half a page on it and see how the keys feel, as well as the touchpad. Also consider a mouse to go with it, to help make it easier to use and play/work.

    My personal preferences for gear right now is ASUS, Logitech and nVidia.

    hard drive size i dont need more than 200 GB
    as i have over 4 TB of external storage drives

    but i would like 7200RPM

    and i would like it to be an HP laptop

    as that the company my dad works for. and he might be able to pull some some employee discount thing, like he did when i bought this laptop.

    i also don't want to buy used.
    Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
  • Della_Brown - Heavens Tear
    Della_Brown - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    a good gaming desktop under $600:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229159
    If the GT220 were replaced, sure.

    Of the common graphics options available, try to go for a 240M, 250M, 260M (this would probably be the best pair), 350M, or 360M. Starting with the GTX 260M, battery life goes out the window, while the GTS 260M has near the same performance, but a good bit lower power use...and higher cost. The GTS 350M and 360M look alright, too, but it's hard to tell if they are actually any faster than the 200-series, or slower.

    nVidia loves to make their naming schemes confusing.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
    Since all of the nVidia's low-power chips seem to be based on tweaking older tech, there aren't any that are better at one bench, and worse at another, so it's not too hard to compare.

    I don't see any HPs w/ anything nVidia for graphics. PWI seems to have minor graphical glitches w/ modern Radeon drivers, and some people have performance issues with them in PWI, too. I have no idea what the norm is. Add on to that that I don't see anything on HP's site with mobile Radeons of any decent performance level (nice TDPs, but even a Mobility Radeon 4550 seems to barely make to 210M/220M performance levels). Nice business laptops, and cheap-but-not-crappy general purpose laptops, but even casual gaming seems to be missing (not bad, just bad for gaming on a notebook that says HP on it).

    Here are a couple others to look at:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146612
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146719 (faster CPU, maybe different display)

    If battery life doesn't matter much, the first Asus at Newegg, w/ the GTX 260M (link) is a really good value, though it is technically used.

    Now, since you have a working laptop, have you considered getting a desktop, with a decent monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and just not upgrading your laptop? Keep your laptop for going around to places, and the desktop for back at your house/apt/dorm. I know some new stuff runs slow, but I'm doing OK with a 2 year old desktop, and 9 year old notebook. Getting good performance at a decent price in a mobile PC is a lot of money and work, and the thing will still be fragile.
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm using an 8600 GT, and I'm doing fine with it, and if it isn't a major gaming rig then using a 220 would be more than fine.
    I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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  • Della_Brown - Heavens Tear
    Della_Brown - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm using an 8600 GT, and I'm doing fine with it, and if it isn't a major gaming rig then using a 220 would be more than fine.
    While slow, I did fine with a 7300GT DDR2. Getting by w/ PWI is not hard :). But, it is nice to be able to max everything.

    There are several available cards that beat the GT220 by quite a bit, at a similar price or only very slightly more. In the same price range, a 9600 GT, or 9600 GSO, would all beat a GT 220 by quite a bit, and cost only a small amount more (<=$20 more, for 80-150% more performance). It just seems silly to get something that can easily be matched or bested by older midrange hardware (your 8600 GT is only about 30% slower than a GT 220, FI), when you can still buy 1-2 generation old midrange hardware (tweaked 9xxx) for so little extra.
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  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    HP laptops are ok for average computing, studying, and some game development uses.

    3d gaming, not so much.

    I 2nd the opinion about getting a desktop for your home or dorm if you wanna go that route and keep using the laptop you have. You may have to replace the battery, but that is still cheaper then a whole system.

    (That reminds me on a random note, if your battery ever dies, and your system won't turn on even when plugged in, unplug it. Then remove the battery. Then plug the power back in. It should bypass, turn on, and run as a desktop. I've had to do that for quite a few laptops, mostly HP. That'll help until you can get a new battery.)
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Della_Brown - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It just seems silly to get something that can easily be matched or bested by older midrange hardware (your 8600 GT is only about 30% slower than a GT 220, FI)
    hence my statement. granted my 8600 is 100% fine for even gaming, but I don't have the raw CPU power needed. I would love to have a 2.6ghz, it would do my well in anything I want to play. (curse you prototype needing 2.4....)
    I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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