Challenge for Calamity?

You've to understand that many people in Calamity have alts in some of the factions named above, and wouldn't TW in against themeslves.

Secondly, the more lower level less powerful factions that attack Cala, the easier it is for them because of the increased chance of splitting TW days of stronger factions. I believe you can only have 3 simultaneous defends, but your attack will always be your only fight.

So it wouldn't be a good idea to attack Calamity unless you coordinate it with other factions. I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but only three of the factions listed have the power to really do something. The others would be donating 500k to Calamity's already 400mil+/week income.

Just the tiny problem that any faction can only have 3 attacks against it at the same time.
O, and that atleast 22 of the facs you mentiond get wiped by 2 cala squads, if not even less

If you wanted a whipe, yesterday was the ultimate one.
Dynasty, EQ, and vanquish attacked. Cala focused only on dynasty and vanquish (!?!) and EQ won theyr fights

Problem is there are actually way more timeslots available for TW then are usually used.

If there were a ton of TW's you'd see the other terrritory war windows getting used. There would be battles scheduled for friday night, sat AM, sat aft, sat night, sun morning, sun aft, sun night. Check with the TW NPC's guide about this.

So doing this wouldn't cause Calamity to be ganked N vs 1. You'd find it at most being ganked 3 on 1, but it would be happening on 5 or 6 separate occasions during the weekend. The gank size would be determined by how many territories the target has divided by the number of windows available to have them in.

So it would be a battle of attrition. Success would not necessarily be measured in terms of land won, but in the making of all of the members of Calamity miserable and totally sick of TW.

Calamity was once attacked by I believe 13 different factions. This was a LONG time ago, but it was something along the lines of getting split up into ganks of 3v1, 8:00-8:03-8:06 on Fri Sat and Sun, and the remaining 4 had 12:00 TWs lol. Calamity won every single tw that weekend.

Magiere - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Here u can see what happened on european server, it was pretty useless
All TW's were within the weekend and they didnt lose.



Best Strategy to bring down a big owning faction , still is either make 3 equal strong facs or only let 3 big factions attack.

I can't view the link. Or is it just me?

ArchAngel - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I can't view the link. Or is it just me?

Hmm strange works fine for me,
how about this one :


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Incase it still doesn't work, basically its 1 Faction owning all possible lands, and being ganked on every single "possible" territory.So they got like 30+ defenses.

I've come up with a simple solution... I posted it HERE. Maybe with all of the interest here and on other servers even something can be done to actually make TW fun for ALL factions and not just one group.

As for the list and ideas here. It's been done w/ a lot of factions attacking at once already here. Part of the difficulty in this is that the scheduling simply didn't allow the bigger of the groups to be on a stronger 3v1 fight. IF and only IF major factions on the server like EQ, Inversion, HDT, Dynasty, Vanquish, Bushido, Kindrid, Armageddon, Exclusive and a few others were able to get a decent split of their forces would it be even potentially possible.

Side note... has ANYONE else noticed the color of the controlling factions on the other images and servers posted on the forums here? It's all red... meaning... the first faction on the server.

Noob - Raging Tide wrote: »

Calamity will prob make more money off you guys then they lose :P

Thats coming from somebody who isnt even on our server.
Calamity have been holding onto the big piece of pie for a long time, unless a factor in their tactics goes horrible wrong - which i doubt it will-, im afraid they wont be overpowered for a very very long time.b:surrender

How do you administrate such large faction (200 members IS a big group? Considering there are only 18 senior officers (out which only 6 have authority of (de)comissioning a member), that means roughly 11 members per officer (if consider a homogenous distribution, that is). Well, we could consider a standard error of 10% and the fact not all of members are online at the same time (except in TW periods)... on the other hand, how serious they are can be seen in the game itself. Just press M while you play. (On the other hand, there have been... powerful but not numerous attacks on Calamity lands...)

But let's put aside logic and statistics... how do you administrate yourself so well?

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What they lack in my opinion is a charismatic and influential leader with a really good grasp on TW strategy.
If they would have had that, the map would have been completely red many months ago.

Weird, I would assume you where referring to Eq and not Calamity. Looking at the TW map it doesn't look like Calamity is lacking.

Esnemyl - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Thats coming from somebody who isnt even on our server.
Calamity have been holding onto the big piece of pie for a long time, unless a factor in their tactics goes horrible wrong - which i doubt it will-, im afraid they wont be overpowered for a very very long time.b:surrender

I am pretty sure Noob, came from our server, and even if he didn't it doesn't take much to search for the info, and look at the history of our server, calamity has been in power for quite some time now.

No comment on that eq/cala leader comment above, some know where I stand, (perhaps stood) and that's all I'll say. =x

It will NOT be easy to take down calamity, it will take cunning, speed, power, a good communication line, as well as a continuation of that, to make sure calamity does NOT take over ALL the lands. Calamity has been pretty flawless from what I can tell, with all of those, and they are the true challenge on this server.

Even the other top 2-3 and even 4th best guilds struggle to defeat cala, One of them beats cala, the other two lose, though recently they did lose 2 lands at once, but they have quickly recovered them. Even when they all attack calamity at once, it still recquires a bit of luck, and timing to get on the same night, and imo cala just couldnt muster up enough people to fend off all 3 attacks from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best guilds. Now I could be wrong perhaps they did, but I don't think that they have ever really lacked, cunning, or communication/rules being followed throughout the duration of tw.

Just my two cents. xD

109 on line, 20 of them in catshops d^_^b

_BaMbOo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Weird, I would assume you where referring to Eq and not Calamity. Looking at the TW map it doesn't look like Calamity is lacking.

trust me , no one's perfect.
I don't know who's the current leader, but I know that for a while BaldwinBoy was in charge with TWs.
That guy has prolly fair play flowing through his veins and he's a total gentleman in my experience (well, he has some slips here and there, but who doesn't). He's a smart cookie but I don't see him as the ruthless machiavellian leader that could really do the job quick and maybe dirty sometimes but make Calamity shine. He's taking the long road, he's doing it his way and he'll get the job done, I'm sure of that.

I kinda prefer being fair and losing than being shady to win. That's just me.

I couldn't possibly say Calamity success depends on who leads. Saying that the person with leader tag determines the success or decay of a faction means that your other 180+ members are pretty much just following. I disagree, you can't give Seraphim, BB, Tyranny, Jay, Ajay, LunarLight, SmexyGal, WackyTaffy, Henchman, etc. that credit, what they can do/they did, is coordinate effort, use what they were offered by their own members and provide expertise to achieve the goals of their factions. a leader's job is if anything, to teach and point you to the right path. If you can't walk yourself, a leader can't and won't be your legs.

To me Calamity faces 4 major challenges:

-Equinox: In my opinion, a tactical superior TW faction, they have reached a point where we're at the same level, and they have proved that they can be better. People pretty much expects a win from Calamity, this is wrong. If there was still a TW report, you'd see the last time we beat EQ was loooooong ago over a TB land. While over the last 4 wars they've won 2 out of 4 attacks.
-All other factions: As Dynasty, Vanquish, HDT, Bushido, Kindrid, etc benefit from 2x experience and drops, they get more levels, better gear and they stick together for long. All this factions have a strong core of players developing and will soon be a great threat on their own, as they have been when slotted with EQ against us.
-Ourselves: Some of calamity members reach endgame and quit, reroll, demand a greater challenge or lose interest in the game. Some do leave faction, others are kept for IF they are back because we pride ourselves of being family oriented. After a while, the TW part of Calamity demands it to stay fresh, and you feel sad about kicking your old friends that have been inactive for 4-5 months, but its a necessary pain. Whenever a lvl 100 barb, cleric, wiz leaves to rejoin with their lvl 90 archer or tideborn, you sacrifice TW leverage to honor the family part of Calamity.
-The rest of the server: after all, we're hoping to have, at least for 1 week all of the server lands, we understand that some players see us as the enemy even though they've never met us. Whenever I'm playing an alt, I hear crazy rumors about Calamity as well as very kind words. We do hope we can offer help to the server (no not money!) we have events that are or will be implemented with the server, as the boss day, a public quest day, a cube day and who knows, maybe a scavenger hunt. Calamity has an event crew that juggles ideas and we set aside part of TW pay to plan prices and or expenses for this.

aaaah long posts, it's been a while.

Ah yeas Aubree, which takes us back to challenge #1.

Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »

-Equinox: In my opinion, a tactical superior TW faction. People pretty much expects a win from Calamity, this is wrong. If there was still a TW report, you'd see the last time we beat EQ was loooooong ago over a TB land. While over the last 4 wars they've won 2 out of 4 attacks.

Add to that the fact that other factions are and will be becoming a strong challenge, and yeah. I never said it was gonna be easy, done in 7 weeks, or that you were not gonna put up a fight. But we're also trying to be prepared, to be better, like you guys are, to hold off to our end. b:cute