Pure or Fist

Reane - Sanctuary wrote: »

Archers are the only class that can acquire a - interval top through reputation. combined with the TT99 gold wrists and decide claws, they can reach a nasty quick attack rate. if they are demon, they can ALMOST maintain a constant triple demon spark. thats probably higher dps than any bow can get you. however, the chances of your average archer getting all three of those gears is slim. :P

edit: assasins might be able to get a - interval reputation top as well, im not sure...

double edit: assassins can get a - interval top through reputation

If you get 2 pieces of tt99 armour, you get a set effect. 2 piece of LA give you -0.05, 2 pieces of HA give you -0.05, and 2 pieces of Arcane gives you -3% channeling. An archer can wear two pieces of LA such as wrist and legs and two pieces of HA, typically belt and necklace, as well as the rank top thats a total of -.30 interval. Combined with decide claws, that gives you a 4.00 attack rate while demon sparking. Which means they will always be sparking. This can be furthured by nirvana leggings or the event cape, to give you 5 attacks per second (max speed). I already have -.25 inerval (with fists) and I'm not even 99 yet.

Edit: An assassin can only get 5 attacks/second with daggers if they get the rank 8 chest the same as archers, they're demon, and they max their gear out.

Here is my 2 cents worth,

i just rolled a baby archer on archosaur. it is now lvl 16, so still a real baby.

He's pure, but using fists for in close, basically to eliminate the short range penalty, and save arrows, of course range being the preferred method

At lvl 15, I got in close and with fists solo'd Yi Chinglin,the Seduced Winged Elf and the Venomancer Siren for the The Perimeter, without even requiring a re-pot or a tick of the newbie charm. i thought i would try it, as they are range, and was really surprised at the results.

What I have found so far, because of pure dex, in-close Mobs tends to miss a lot, and i haven't had problems (yet), as i crit a lot as well.
range mobs end up getting the distance penalty, so for hard ones, this method works as well.

Of course being an archer, the bow is preferable, but there is nothing wrong with carrying fists and swapping when they get close, it works surprising good

I have not decided if i will do a full fist build yet, or keep pure, but pure so far is working good.

there is no way on earth i would do an HA archer, that is pure stupidity..

I should have looked at stat requirements for same lvl fists before i said anything..
nope, pure is the definately the way to go.....

and just get fists or claws that you can without corrupting the pure build.

we need that crit + evasion %

Smobo - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The forums are being glitchy on me. >>

Anyhow, I've already typed something up twice, so I'm kind of lazy to type it all again.

My build has nothing to do with the facts I said in Reane's quote. I could be a level 4 arcane archer and they would still be right.

Pretty much, my heavy build is an experimental PvE build which I am doing because I did the math on it and it seemed to have a lot of practical benifits to me staying pure dex. So far in my experience with it, its not as crazy of a build as people are making it out to be. My damage on my bow isn't lowered by that much, even if you don't take into account the fact that I don't need to hold back as much damage now. I have also admited to the fact that demon fist BMs deal more damage than demon fist archers. If I enjoy playing this build enough, I will probably make a BM I can give it to, and possibly return to my pure dex state. Also, if I got into PvPing, I would restat back to pure dex (or min str for claws), as this is only a PvE based build.

So... let me get this straight... you think your bow damage "isn't lowered by that much"? Maybe you are not aware that there are archers whose min damage puts my max damage to SHAME. And here you are... whose max damage aspires to someday match my min dmg. I won't be surprised if there are archers whose min dmg DOUBLES your max.
And I do hope for your sake that you are wearing heavies. Consider that you have the stat to wear arguably the best armor in game. It would be really sad if you are still wearing LA ****. Else you would just fail in both pvp and pve.
While this might be a personal perference... but I do enjoy the choice to hold back or take aggro. Something that can't be said for you.