Why people go crazy about weapon choices?

Didn't see question in there but from title question ill say this

A BM can use every wep with right build but that is not good idea have to lower it to 2 maybe 3 otherwise less powerful need more coin and spirit so its hard to decide on the 2 they want

(I am a Axe/Pole at the moment cause Aoe owns and range comes in handy ill be Axe/Fist soon i think after reset vit)

Meur - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Most experienced players when giving advice or talk about weapon path refer to end-game where you will be spending most of your time and where things are very clear: Fist - best DPS by far, Axe - best AoEs by far.

The thing is Fists are not that good without interval gear and you can't have much interval gear before level 90. Up until this point Sword and Pole have comparable DPS to Fist.

This is where the confusion and "no thatz not tru i pwn on my sword bm" flames come from.

You said what has been said before, but it is never repeated too often. End game isn't what most people in here are asking about. Most of the people asking in here are pre-level 80. It doesn't make sense to talk to some noob and tell him that you will need axes now since you need them 80 levels later too.

I've seen people flame swords, but if you really think about it, swords are a nice weapon. You can be a one-path BM up to 70 without a problem, and maybe even later. Starting with swords is not a bad idea, since you will mostly face one mob at a time before that, and first nice fists are AoS and TT60 at 60. If you want to play for fun, choose which you think best suits you. You won't need axe skills in squad before FCC, but even I have to admit that HF always helps.

Starchief - Sanctuary wrote: »

I almost have my tt90 zerk fists, we'll see how that goes >.<

What a waste of money b:sweat.

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And its a become a common misconception that fists are only good later in the game because of -interval. They are fine from beginning to end even without -interval gear.

I meant there isn't a big DPS difference between fist without interval and sword/pole at earlier stages of the game.

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have 2 BMs

One built 3 STR, 1 DEX, 1 VIT per LVL
This one is build 2.5 STR, 2 DEX and 0.5 VIT per LVL

This toon uses poles, swords and fists
The other BM use axes and poles

I seen pros and cons of every weapon.

Axe / hammer = IMO the best physical base damage output ingame, along with AOEs, really sweet, helps a lot in rebirth too.

Poles = Your best ranged melee weapon, you can reach your enemies more often

Swords = great in 1 vs 1 , slowing down your opponent's DPS both physically and magically

Fists = I prefer this one in a lot of situations, + good for saving money too.


I prefer my main BM (this one) than my alt BM. Simply because I love using fists and love the attack speed.

Please refrain from posting until you get to a level where your opinion on weapon choice matters.


And don't bother with hh90 zerk fists, they're horribly annoying in PvE for both you and if in a party, the cleric, and in pvp you're generally better off getting more interval rather than helping your target by lowering your own hp every 2 seconds.

TT90 gold fists are horrible without a cleric around, and even like that, you're helping the mob to kill you! each hit you land has a chance to reduce your hp by 5% and since fists land hits the fastest, you will be dead in about 1 minute or less
Moreover, fists have the lowest base damage from all weapons, which means all your hits will be low (fists make up for that with attack speed), so doubling one of those is not as proffiting as doubling an axe blow that deals 12k on it's own
Sacrificial strike is good on axes and maybe, just maybe on sword (because of the sword skills having very high crude damage), but in fists you're giving away 5% of your hp every 3-5 seconds! if you have enough money to manufacture TT90 gold fists go for FC gold ones instead, and start saving up for lunar claws, if you were farming the TT90 sell the mats, trust me, the side effect of TT90 gold will kill you fast

I've never had a weapon with berserk. does it leech 5% of max hp or 5% of current hp?

So firelotus blade is a bad idea as a PvE weapon but ok as a PvP weapon?

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Swords are terrible regardless of what you're doing

swords offer far more crowd control and tanking ability than spears ever will

atamos lets you control runners and MSS has saved my **** so many times its not even funny

there are no bad weapons learn em all you will have a use for each and every one

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

atmos is a push back... it makes runners go even furtherb:sad

run in front of mob stun bleed bleed atamos back to party farstrike/spirit chaser drakes ray>leap stun alows you to controll pure casting runners without ceasingDD so that the aggro happy squishies dont rip you

on archer mobs stun fist they're run counter is set to 0 as long as you have aggro

knockback also cancles the curent spell for if shadowless and stuns are in CD leaps and meteor+atamos will control it till they cool off

also spirit chaser will actually out DD farstrike in a few situations

lvls 80=95 being the big one

the base damage differance in +3 shirotwins and +3 dragonlance is enough that chaser is both faster and hits 100-150 harder than far abeit at a loss of range

at 90-95 sword has zerk spear dosent unless you get angler in wich case see the above^

there are no bad weapons just ones you suck at useing

Anxho - Harshlands wrote: »

Thanks for your opinion but its not what I wanted to know. I have great success in both PvE and PvP using my sword/axe combination. I plan to add pole later for farstrike so I have a good arsenal of ranged skills. I just wanted to know if firelotus was a bad idea for pve.

Firelotus is a bad idea for everything. It's a single sword so skill spamming fails. Meleeing would do decent damage... but that doesn't make up for the fact that you're giving up a lot of HP just to double low damage. Same as the 90 zerk fists... you probably hurt yourself more than your target.

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

swords offer far more crowd control and tanking ability than spears ever will

thats why the only non-fail bm's in delta are the one that have a spear (alternative weapon) and meteor rush to push mobs away from wizard. the single time wizard never died... or its just a pure coincidence that almost all bm's on HL are fails

Ditch the wizzie and archer, have 3 BMs, and don't worry about KB except knocking archers into BB range while you tank them. Solves the problem quite nicely, and you never have to go above mana aura 1

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

yup rush is great in rebirth and aoe grinding

atamos is better for single mob control wich is more needed in bh/fb/instances in general sadly thats how folks lvl now

though why your bm's are meteor rushing those mobs rather than roar/alpha/MSS/bolt ill never know since most RB mobs are casters and the point of rush is to push them IN the zhen/barrage if wizzies bidsing

some are casters some are melee. i good bm that i know is doing all of that but most i had squad with just dont get it what to do and squad fail