Sins and Gamma squad

People should stop being so closed minded about the new classes and accept them already. Was so funny nobody wanted psy's in FC and after Man posted on forums about a delta with 2 psy's and no BM, everyone says on world chat now: "looking for bm/psy"

Sins are decent in gamma, definitely at least as good as venos. The AoE amplify helps on mobs more than any veno could doesn't it? 30% more damage for 8 seconds once every 30 sec and it does stack with Heaven's Flame... I mean the MAIN damage dealers (archers and wizzies) will get improved with this debuff on mobs. The 2nd AoE can be as **** as useless, sins are still very useful because of that amplify.

On bosses we can slow their attacks by 50%, and amplify damage by 30% with Subsea once every 30 sec for 8 sec. Venos can amplify also though.

Oh and we got Bloodpaint of course, and venos bramble. Personally I don't know which is better, one helps on survival, the other on dding.

There is no reason venos to be considered better than sins in gamma. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against venos and would also hate if people refuse a veno because of a sin... since that's our position atm, sometimes ppl refusing sins for venos >.< Just don't refuse either since they are both decent in gamma.


EDIT: If anyone is interested at level 79 I finished digging before 2nd boss was dead, and got past double wave without BM (yes in 5 members - he got 1k'd before because of a misunderstanding of when to use Alpha Male on some previous stage), and a level 74 barb was tanking. I know it wasn't my merit fully but I had a part in it as well

me prefer
1 barb
1 bm
2 wiz/archer/possibly psy
2 clerics
b:thanks
seeing how bonus beans got eaten by the tideborns and me would rather have an off heal cleric spamming IH/purify. (means less charm ticks for everyone)
and a BM be better since they can actually off tank and split the aggro with the barb......and me already do too much dam damage in gamma.....taking aggro continuously T.T'
(>.<)'

and delta = can't replace teh fox
xD

Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yeah, like venos are any better there. At least one of our AoEs deals massive damage indirectly by amplifying damage taken by mobs by 30% for 8 seconds (thus increasing damage of main damage dealers archer/wiz) even if it has 30 sec cooldown.

Or you're telling me people have become so selfish and cowardly that they need only the best of the best groups and not even venos are accepted these days in gamma? Cuz a archer/wiz/BM could do slightly better?

If that's the case I'd laugh my **** off if they implement "assassin paradise" sometime in this game, how it happened in my old game I played. It was a long dungeon full of mobs (much like fb69 but without possibility to wine it and much much harder) and a boss needed for something similar to cultivation in here (only that item was trade-able to other players). Sins could pass the mobs in stealth and duo that boss with proper gear. Was soo funny everyone begged us to get their items and we were selling them for a fortune.

Hope something similar happens here at some point in time, or something for venos in the same way, we'll show you some love like you did for us in rebirth b:kiss

lolumad?
b:chuckle
and me very much doubt the last bit....
PW didn't even fully integrate the assassin class, there be tons of assassins running around, and lols venos be important for RB delta.
xD

Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »

hmm actually not mad at all more like disappointed, that you (plural) only care for yourselves taking the best of scenarios only so you're guaranteed easier victory, without caring that other ppl need the nice stuff in rebirth too. And if u don't care why should we care about you? Prepare for us to charge tons of money for that item I was explaining above if it ever happens.

And I wasn't saying they will design something exclusively for assassins. In that other game it wasn't either, it was my idea in the first place (and 1st on server) to try duo that boss. I mean, it was a boss, don't think devs intended to duo it with 2 sins. But with proper tactics it could have been done (was a long painful 20 minute fight though, full of running etc). And with new sage/demon skills + more gearing up for sins (they're fairly new still and not that awesome geared so far), sins will go on a different power level and we may start to be able to solo/duo some bosses or something.

So maybe something similar will happen here. With all the power you can get with nice gear and a charm, probably some sins could start duo/trio/solo some high level important bosses.

1: "the nice stuff in rebirth too." that be completely wrong >.<' there really isn't any nice things in RB gamma *teh drops barely cover the costs.....well actually running gamma tended to cost me alot (this probably be a reason why barbs don't really want to run RBs that much) more then me gained lols but the exp was nice.* (which me assume you be referring to RB gamma as a few discrepancies (such as venos being useless) in your posts suggests limited RB experience.).....and Delta be only for higher level BH so they sort of have to do it if they want a nice bit of exp
2: Humans be lazy...if they has the option of getting the "best" or "easiest" to run squad and that would involve not taking one of the tons of assassins along with them....they sure won't take the assassin with them.
3: it be only....like 5 levels you have to go to get from 80-85? just do BH & WQ. then at 85+ just run frost...it be easier.
4: um....Archers can solo TT runs using fists (there be quite a few videos of this).....which mean that assassins can solo TT runs even easier. b:surrender

hamster sleepy
Dx
might be some mistaken in me posts but o well one can get me overall meaning....hopefullyish? O.o
(>.<)'

Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »

k only one more comment... I didn't say venos are useless... never said that O.o

they are like sins, useful but not nearly the best. And if by limited you mean without delta then yes, I only did gamma so far, look at my level b:surrender

I saw people asking for 3 archer squad in gamma and refusing sins/venos and even wizzies. Does that make them useless? Not for me, that's for sure, since I wouldn't strive for the 'perfect team' anyway.

3 archer squad?
b:puzzled
hmm
o.O
they must really like archers
xD
besides, it be Rebirth only good for a training exercise to prepare for Delta (nothing else really comes from it....except easy exp if you know what you be doing and have a good squad) and.....why you trying to get into random squads? (>.<)
most random squads be filled with (no offense) people like you who has limited experience
._.'
(although me found RB gamma to be really really easy. But that could just be because me are a hamster.)
which would mean it wouldn't go well to begin with >.<'
also there be a severe gap between barbs/clerics and DD classes....
so the chances of even getting in one to begin with be a bit low.
._.'
it be best to run with friends.
>.<'

and respect teh venos

or else Eshlay, mere, and possibly even BattleFairy going to bite me head off
(>.<)'