wolf den

Zedidi - Dreamweaver
Zedidi - Dreamweaver Posts: 39 Arc User
edited April 2010 in General Discussion
I'm a level 35 veno. I was wondering what level could I go single in wolf's den?
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    well if you have a herc you could do it by yourself at your current lvl w/o problem

    If you have a walker or magmite, i'd try it out and see how your pet handles, and if it requires you to heal alot. If no then go ahead and complete the fb :)
  • Celestyna - Heavens Tear
    Celestyna - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    you should be ok to go in and kill mobs for sure. the boss if your careful should be able to.

    It really depends on your build and your pets
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  • Zedidi - Dreamweaver
    Zedidi - Dreamweaver Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Thanks for the relies :)
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I first solod it at 50, but that's high I thinks.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I wouldn't use magmite or glacial walker more of beetle or scorpion as those two big rocks do to much aggro.It is ok with herc.
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I wouldn't use magmite or glacial walker more of beetle or scorpion as those two big rocks do to much aggro.It is ok with herc.

    Ermmmm that's kind of the point...the pet is SUPPOSED TO TAKE AGRO and tank the mobs. That's the whole point of a pet, to take agro from you and tank the mobs so the veno doesn't take damage.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ermmmm that's kind of the point...the pet is SUPPOSED TO TAKE AGRO and tank the mobs. That's the whole point of a pet, to take agro from you and tank the mobs so the veno doesn't take damage.

    Yes.I know but there is to many lose mobs that they would attract even to the Veno herself.I did this at lvl 40 something with a Magmite instead of using my Herc.I had to try and avoid healing and my Mag was lvl 40+.
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yes.I know but there is to many lose mobs that they would attract even to the Veno herself.I did this at lvl 40 something with a Magmite instead of using my Herc.I had to try and avoid healing and my Mag was lvl 40+.

    That is your fault not down to the pet.

    1. You can lure the mobs one by one if you prefer to avoid big groups.
    2. Before healing make sure your pet has dealt damage to each attacking mob, weather it is from deflect or an attack. Once it has dealt damage to the mob you will no longer take agro from your pet generally unless you out damage your pet.
    3. Wait untill you are much higher that you can take the mobs without your pet or untill you are more skilled.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    That is your fault not down to the pet.

    That is not my fault and where did I mention about blaming the pet stop putting word into my mouth.btw Magmites don't have deflect.
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    On my veno I soloed fb19's at level 29(using the magmite with the 10 second defense buff).... I also soloed fb19 human with a 29 BM. Takes patience but you do make a little money on the drops.
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    That is not my fault and where did I mention about blaming the pet stop putting word into my mouth.btw Magmites don't have deflect.

    You said dont use magmites or walkers because they attract to many mobs and you get agro, the fact that happens is down to you as the veno not the pet.

    Magmites don't have deflect? Thanks again for point out the obvious once again but if you read a little further along i said you can just attack the mobs for the same effect. Magmites can have deflect though if you are prepared to pay the amount for the deflect scroll
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    You said dont use magmites or walkers because they attract to many mobs and you get agro, the fact that happens is down to you as the veno not the pet.
    This is when you heal them or go around corners
    Magmites don't have deflect? Thanks again for point out the obvious once again but if you read a little further along i said you can just attack the mobs for the same effect. Magmites can have deflect though if you are prepared to pay the amount for the deflect scroll
    It would be best to just save up for a herc and those scroll can't be bough from Mrs. Zoologist as they only drop in an instanced area and go for millions.
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It's probably worth mentioning that it requires ridiculously tense timing on the defence buff of the magmite to pull it off, afterwards I just bought and trained up a second magmite so instead of kiting the boss and risking it regening hp I could just call out the second magmite and then resurrect the first.

    If you see the pet begin to die switch to fox form ASAP and make sure summer sprint is active. It's easier with a pure build, at 33 with the next level of pet heal it becomes easier for other builds.
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  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I think you should be able to with a golem or w/e if you dont have a herc or special skills(like defense buff, magic biff and reflect). I think I did it on my veno when i was low 38-40. Make sure you have enough mp pots, when I did it, I couldnt stop spam healing to do the mana recovery skill.

    I did used to do it unwind, but i became lazy and started using wine. Its really easy to get the mats..only need 10 total of each.
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  • Valyrie - Raging Tide
    Valyrie - Raging Tide Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    No need for a Herc or any special skills , i soloed the whole dungeon at lvl 33 with my Magmite took a long time but it was fun and considering i'm pretty new to this game it should be easy for anyone
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Started soloing untamed fb19 on my veno alt with a crystal mag around level 28 without many problems. I imagine with patience I could have started a bit earlier.
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    MystiMonk, you're really starting to prove you fail as a Venomancer. For the love of all things holy, stop posting on this thread, because you're making yourself look really stupid.

    1) The pet (Magmite/Walker) is supposed to take aggro.
    2) If you don't pull that's your fault. You can pull with your pet, or with the Tame Beast skill. Don't blame the Magmite because you were too stupid to not pull one mob out of a bunch of three.
    3) If you heal too early before your pet has attacked the mob (or mobs) then that's also your fault. The pet only attacks what you tell it to, it doesn't automatically switch between different mobs for your convenience.
    4) If you think you need a Herc to solo FB19 of all places you're an idiot and kindly need to grow a brain. I was soloing FB19 on my veno at level 38 with a Magmite with the Tough skill. It was long, and not easy, but I completed it without needing a Herc and without dying. I took aggro... twice. That was it.

    If you tried to solo FB19 at around 40, with a Magmite, and you died because you didn't pull or you healed too early that's your fault. Don't blame your pet, it's not like it heals itself, and it can't pull without you controlling it. Basically: just because you suck as a veno and think you need a Herc for FB19 (oh the hilarity) it doesn't mean it's your pet's fault. It's just that you suck. End of.
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    For the love of all things holy, stop posting

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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    MystiMonk, you're really starting to prove you fail as a Venomancer. For the love of all things holy, stop posting on this thread, because you're making yourself look really stupid.

    1) The pet (Magmite/Walker) is supposed to take aggro.
    2) If you don't pull that's your fault. You can pull with your pet, or with the Tame Beast skill. Don't blame the Magmite because you were too stupid to not pull one mob out of a bunch of three.
    3) If you heal too early before your pet has attacked the mob (or mobs) then that's also your fault. The pet only attacks what you tell it to, it doesn't automatically switch between different mobs for your convenience.
    4) If you think you need a Herc to solo FB19 of all places you're an idiot and kindly need to grow a brain. I was soloing FB19 on my veno at level 38 with a Magmite with the Tough skill. It was long, and not easy, but I completed it without needing a Herc and without dying. I took aggro... twice. That was it.

    If you tried to solo FB19 at around 40, with a Magmite, and you died because you didn't pull or you healed too early that's your fault. Don't blame your pet, it's not like it heals itself, and it can't pull without you controlling it. Basically: just because you suck as a veno and think you need a Herc for FB19 (oh the hilarity) it doesn't mean it's your pet's fault. It's just that you suck. End of.
    I do not fail as a Veno and I never died it took longer that is why because golems are slow.What I am getting at is that is when you heal those wolfs darkbreeds will sense this and come after you making you kite away even if the pet has to die as to why I recommend a beetle or scorp cause they are faster.
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I do not fail as a Veno and I never died it took longer that is why because golems are slow.What I am getting at is that is when you heal those wolfs darkbreeds will sense this and come after you making you kite away even if the pet has to die as to why I recommend a beetle or scorp cause they are faster.

    The whole point of golems is that they take aggro. If the golem has aggro (as in, he has hit all the mobs at least once), you don't have to worry about wolves 'sensing' you, as they're too busy hitting your golem while you heal him.
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  • Criminal - Raging Tide
    Criminal - Raging Tide Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Wow...... really MystiMonk? just wow..b:bye
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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    My veno soloed at 19 with a herc, 32 with a magmite. Light build at that time, so probably at lower levels with a pure mag build.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The whole point of golems is that they take aggro. If the golem has aggro (as in, he has hit all the mobs at least once), you don't have to worry about wolves 'sensing' you, as they're too busy hitting your golem while you heal him.

    As if I didn't know this but they are slow.
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    As if I didn't know this but they are slow.
    What I am getting at is that is when you heal those wolfs darkbreeds will sense this and come after you making you kite away even if the pet has to die as to why I recommend a beetle or scorp cause they are faster.

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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I soloed it at this level, I didn't have a hard time with it, only have 2k of phy def and 1.4k of Hp atm, but I wouldn't advise doing it as a veno because if you grab to many mobs with ur pet and it doesn't have aggro and you heal it they will all come after you except the one your pet is attacking. But I expect you can do it around 50 or something like that.
  • Toxic - Dreamweaver
    Toxic - Dreamweaver Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    As if I didn't know this but they are slow.

    If you want to aggro 3 mobs. And your pet cannot survive without a heal while you are hitting them all with the pet. And you cannot tank a couple hits while your slow pet runs to the mob you ended up pulling while healing pet. Then you just pull the mobs until they are manageable.
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  • Criminal - Raging Tide
    Criminal - Raging Tide Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I soloed it at this level, I didn't have a hard time with it, only have 2k of phy def and 1.4k of Hp atm, but I wouldn't advise doing it as a veno because if you grab to many mobs with ur pet and it doesn't have aggro and you heal it they will all come after you except the one your pet is attacking. But I expect you can do it around 50 or something like that.

    Did u just not read any of the posts of the other people?
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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    Stop FFFFFFFFiiinnng Flowing me a$$H0le.
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  • Criminal - Raging Tide
    Criminal - Raging Tide Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Who are you talking to? u need to quote so people know who is that directed to o.O
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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Did u just not read any of the posts of the other people?

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