Tactics of owning a BM or Barb
xxxzumsterxxx
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i'm a SIN rite now, no offense, or i should be calling noob, it's seem that i don't really have any chance of winning a BM, ( not fist BM ). the bm is like 3 or 4 lvl below me. i'm 74 atm. with full TT & Leg Gear, except for rings, robe and armor, helm., i believe i have mess up my build as, currently vit = 56, str 95, and rest of dex like 266 something like that.... should i reset my attri pts to pure... cuz other day i saw a duel between sin & bm, and actually sin own that bm.... it's something that pure dex OWN???......can any EXP SIN points out the way of skill list for pvp...(ps this is my 1st game and pvp character, ) thanks in advance.
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No points to Vit.
You can get HP from shards and equipment's stats.
Enough strength to equip a decent helm and the rest should be to dex.
The assassin's skill set, if executed properly, can stun lock your opponents, rendering them useless through combat for a long period of time while you do your stuffs.
Headhunt ( 5 sec stun at lv 10 ) -> Dragon Rise -> Throat Cut ( 4 sec at lv 10 ) -> Puncture Wounds/Rib strike ( own preference ) -> Deep Sting ( 5 sec sleep ) -> Tackling Slash ( 9 sec immoblization at lv 10. This skill has a range of 4.5m. If you stand at max range, and your opponents are melee characters, it'll be as good as a 9 seconds stun since they will not be able to hit at the range of 4.5m.0 -
My sin's not ready for TW ..yet, but i do duel sometimes.
VS BM : all depends who is faster.... i usually telestun them, puncture wound(to bleed em), throatcut - deep sting - tackling slash.
VS cleric : they have a nasty seal, so i go stealth, telestun, PW, Throatcut, Deepsting. At 3lvls higher then my sin, they are dead by then. (unless they have Ubergear).
I stay away from Psy, Barb, Heavy veno and whiz. The worst of those being Psy if they are good at what they do, don't stand a chance then.
Archers are somewhat mixed : at close range they do half damage, so tele in to them, stun and do your thing. Don't even think about running towards em, you'll usually be dead before you reach them.
As for your stats : i prefer my own build : Full dex, enough str for armor, NO vit, gear sharded with Garnets, cape with citrines, Helmet with citrines.
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Wolfyyy - Raging Tide wrote: »No points to Vit.
You can get HP from shards and equipment's stats.
Enough strength to equip a decent helm and the rest should be to dex.
The assassin's skill set, if executed properly, can stun lock your opponents, rendering them useless through combat for a long period of time while you do your stuffs.
Headhunt ( 5 sec stun at lv 10 ) -> Dragon Rise -> Throat Cut ( 4 sec at lv 10 ) -> Puncture Wounds/Rib strike ( own preference ) -> Deep Sting ( 5 sec sleep ) -> Tackling Slash ( 9 sec immoblization at lv 10. This skill has a range of 4.5m. If you stand at max range, and your opponents are melee characters, it'll be as good as a 9 seconds stun since they will not be able to hit at the range of 4.5m.
Any of that Str you put in for a helm giving HP could better be used on Vit, and therefore a Hybrid or Vit build would be better. How so? Easily killed a Barb same level as me using only double sparks, Rising Dragon, Inner Harmony, and Tackling Slash for chi, Puncture Wound, Deep Sting Focused Mind, Blood Paint and Rib Strike. The only skill of those I keep leveled is Rib Strike. I'd use all my skills in a row, then double spark and only use chi building after that.
It's simple to beat Axe Blademasters or Barbs, as they both have low accuracy and well over half the time, they've missed me with every single attack. Of their skills, half of them were dodged by Focused Mind, so even those barely hit me.0 -
Aclucius - Lost City wrote: »Any of that Str you put in for a helm giving HP could better be used on Vit, and therefore a Hybrid or Vit build would be better. How so? Easily killed a Barb same level as me using only double sparks, Rising Dragon, Inner Harmony, and Tackling Slash for chi, Puncture Wound, Deep Sting Focused Mind, Blood Paint and Rib Strike. The only skill of those I keep leveled is Rib Strike. I'd use all my skills in a row, then double spark and only use chi building after that.
It's simple to beat Axe Blademasters or Barbs, as they both have low accuracy and well over half the time, they've missed me with every single attack. Of their skills, half of them were dodged by Focused Mind, so even those barely hit me.
95 str to equip a current 3 star helm that I'm wearing that has comparable stats to that of aqua vicious ( 105 str ) . 84 Base str required for a lv 80 LA armour. 95 - 84 = 11 additional str req.
11 str poitns for an additional 170 base helm HP. Refine it to +3 and it gives +260 hp. Top that up with a +5 vit stat ( 5 x 13 = 65 hp ). I added additional 11 str for 260 + 65 hp. 11 vit points only give like 113 hp?
A sin is designed to kill squishies in one shot, or make use of the neat set of disabling skills that we have and DD an opponent for as much as possible. Compromising damage for HP will mean that you've failed the primary objective. We're not meant to tank. And you probably killed a low level barb, thats why its easy. Try fighting a 90ish barb who has amargadden. You can have all the hp boost you have, but he'll still probably two shot a sin. ( One shot for deaden nerve. ) Or you can try fighting other high level DDs. 20-30 vit allows you to survive one additional shot, but you lose more than 200-400 damage in your attacks ( that means 400-800 less crit damage ). If you fail kill your opponent in one hit, you give him the time to counter react,and you give them a chance to have a go on you.
Our stun lock sets of skills can prevent us from even taking any damage ( if you execute them nicely ). Imo, HP should be of lesser concern for a sin.0 -
Wolfyyy - Raging Tide wrote: »95 str to equip a current 3 star helm that I'm wearing that has comparable stats to that of aqua vicious ( 105 str ) . 84 Base str required for a lv 80 LA armour. 95 - 84 = 11 additional str req.
11 str poitns for an additional 170 base helm HP. Refine it to +3 and it gives +260 hp. Top that up with a +5 vit stat ( 5 x 13 = 65 hp ). I added additional 11 str for 260 + 65 hp. 11 vit points only give like 113 hp?
A sin is designed to kill squishies in one shot, or make use of the neat set of disabling skills that we have and DD an opponent for as much as possible. Compromising damage for HP will mean that you've failed the primary objective. We're not meant to tank. And you probably killed a low level barb, thats why its easy. Try fighting a 90ish barb who has amargadden. You can have all the hp boost you have, but he'll still probably two shot a sin. ( One shot for deaden nerve. ) Or you can try fighting other high level DDs. 20-30 vit allows you to survive one additional shot, but you lose more than 200-400 damage in your attacks ( that means 400-800 less crit damage ). If you fail kill your opponent in one hit, you give him the time to counter react,and you give them a chance to have a go on you.
Our stun lock sets of skills can prevent us from even taking any damage ( if you execute them nicely ). Imo, HP should be of lesser concern for a sin.
Your build has then given you with the helm an additional 260 HP. Vit build would have given you 1079 more HP without the helm. May not seem like much, but that is 2 more hits from a Barb I can take.
Now, while I'm not your level, the best Barb I have fought was 4 levels above me, and I was around 65 at that time. Yes, he had Armageddon. Was he equipped with the best gear? No, but his armor were all 3* and his weapon was a TT60. I however had a mix of 3* and 1* armor, along with TT60 Daggers. What saved me was not only my HP, but Focused Mind, at level 1. I can one shot magic classes, and Barbs/Blademasters have not proven difficult for me in most cases. Perhaps I am lucky, or perhaps they all suck. Perhaps you are unlucky, or perhaps you are horrible at PvP. I can't say what the circumstances are at anything, but I can say that from my own experience, a Vit/Hybrid build has made everything much easier for me than I am hearing other full Dex Assassins say they have had.
I hear them say they have trouble with grinding, trouble with AoE's, trouble with PvP, trouble with tanking their BH bosses. However, I have very little trouble with any of that, and I don't think most of that is because of the fact that I spam double spark, or that I that I am some uber-elite Assassin, because quite frankly, I still am learning the class and it's full capabilities. I will say though that Vit does increase our HP, and also our defenses slightly. I think that seeing as our Vit gives us only 2 HP less per stat point than the Barb means that Vit should be an important stat for us.
I am not in any way saying a full Dex build is wrong. Personally, I think in many cases it is far better for PvP. However, I will say that Vit has worked very well for me, and as such I will support it as being a viable and excellent build to use.0 -
Double sparking while in stealth is your friend. If the BM isn't expecting it (aka doesn't have Absolute domain ready) He is probably gonna die. I've been hit for 14k Damage in ~7 seconds by a Sin using Wolf Emblem -> Chill -> Double spark -> Headhunt -> RDS -> Throatcut -> Earthen Rift -> Bramble Rage. I didn't have my AD genie on b:cry
Nothing is going to survive that except awell geared barb in tiger form. Or Absolute Domain, but then you can just shadow escape and repeat the process while AD is on cooldown b:shocked.
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Aclucius - Lost City wrote: »Your build has then given you with the helm an additional 260 HP. Vit build would have given you 1079 more HP without the helm. May not seem like much, but that is 2 more hits from a Barb I can take.
Now, while I'm not your level, the best Barb I have fought was 4 levels above me, and I was around 65 at that time. Yes, he had Armageddon. Was he equipped with the best gear? No, but his armor were all 3* and his weapon was a TT60. I however had a mix of 3* and 1* armor, along with TT60 Daggers. What saved me was not only my HP, but Focused Mind, at level 1. I can one shot magic classes, and Barbs/Blademasters have not proven difficult for me in most cases. Perhaps I am lucky, or perhaps they all suck. Perhaps you are unlucky, or perhaps you are horrible at PvP. I can't say what the circumstances are at anything, but I can say that from my own experience, a Vit/Hybrid build has made everything much easier for me than I am hearing other full Dex Assassins say they have had.
I hear them say they have trouble with grinding, trouble with AoE's, trouble with PvP, trouble with tanking their BH bosses. However, I have very little trouble with any of that, and I don't think most of that is because of the fact that I spam double spark, or that I that I am some uber-elite Assassin, because quite frankly, I still am learning the class and it's full capabilities. I will say though that Vit does increase our HP, and also our defenses slightly. I think that seeing as our Vit gives us only 2 HP less per stat point than the Barb means that Vit should be an important stat for us.
I am not in any way saying a full Dex build is wrong. Personally, I think in many cases it is far better for PvP. However, I will say that Vit has worked very well for me, and as such I will support it as being a viable and excellent build to use.
im almost getting persuaded by your build..
how much VIT do you add? 1 per 2lvls?"male sins all look like **** bags. they need to take out that hunched-over-emoing-at-ground-fidgeting-like-you-have-a-potato-up-your-**** pose."
- Varscona
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HairyFocker - Lost City wrote: »im almost getting persuaded by your build..
how much VIT do you add? 1 per 2lvls?
I did that till around 50, then started putting 1 Vit in every level. It's been since I started putting 1 Vit in every level though that things have gotten even easier for me. Still, I'm not trying to persuade you, just use the build that best suits your play style. I prefer to be able to take more hits rather than deal damage. I also prefer to have a pre-nerfed damage for the sake of BH/TT/etc. This way it helps to keep me from stealing aggro, because as it is a Barb spamming Flesh Ream will still have difficulties holding aggro if I double spark spam. I have to imagine that it becomes nearly impossible for an Assassin who doesn't know how to manage aggro to not steal it when in a full Dex build.0 -
Aclucius - Lost City wrote: »This way it helps to keep me from stealing aggro, because as it is a Barb spamming Flesh Ream will still have difficulties holding aggro if I double spark spam. I have to imagine that it becomes nearly impossible for an Assassin who doesn't know how to manage aggro to not steal it when in a full Dex build.
I steal aggro every boss, then shadow escape to reset it. Once I have done that, I can spam double spark to no end and never steal aggro again. The wonderful part of a being a sin, is we dont have to gimp ourselves because of this ability.
I am a pure dex sin and have no problems grinding, aoeing (typically take on 4 mobs my lvl at a time, any more and my charm ticks), tanking most BH bosses (even nob and pole if the cleric is good and on top of purify). I duel alot (and win 90% of the time), but rarely go PVP because I am not going to risk losing my daggers that I spent 10 mil+ on, I just don't have the coin to blow. I dueled a hybrid sin that was 3 lvl's above me and won 3 out of 4 fights. I won due to my high crit rate (26%), higher evasion and higher damage output that more than made up for his extra hp (almost 1000hp more than me), but I will add that my equipment was much better than his, so the playing field was not exactly level.
With that said, I get the hybrid build and I get the benifits. I even get the HA build. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. If you can afford to refine/shard everything, I think you can get away without putting any points into vit.
Only thing I can add is this: Going pure dex, you will not regret it later on. Going hybrid, you might find out that your not doing enough damage to get the job done and feel the need to restat 80+, when things start to get very easy for a pure dex sin.0 -
keep a minimum of 40 vit, that will give you a respectable amount of extra HP, plus an additional 2 HP regen.Full power to the Vagiroscope!0
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Camerlengo - Dreamweaver wrote: »keep a minimum of 40 vit, that will give you a respectable amount of extra HP, plus an additional 2 HP regen.
No....just stop talking right now.....Vit just takes away damage or HA gear...dont ever put vit in...ever... Thats what HP stones are for[SIGPIC]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/skyeuser/Whispercopy.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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_Whisper_ - Raging Tide wrote: »No....just stop talking right now.....Vit just takes away damage or HA gear...dont ever put vit in...ever... Thats what HP stones are for
Except that Citrines do not also give you additional physical and magical defense. Also, Citrines on top of Vit build will give you beasty HP anyways, so why stop with that? You apparently didn't read my post, because you would have seen that the HA helms do not give you as much HP as a Vit build, and you would have seen that Vit gives extra defenses as well.D/S - Heavens Tear wrote: »I steal aggro every boss, then shadow escape to reset it. Once I have done that, I can spam double spark to no end and never steal aggro again. The wonderful part of a being a sin, is we dont have to gimp ourselves because of this ability.
I am a pure dex sin and have no problems grinding, aoeing (typically take on 4 mobs my lvl at a time, any more and my charm ticks), tanking most BH bosses (even nob and pole if the cleric is good and on top of purify). I duel alot (and win 90% of the time), but rarely go PVP because I am not going to risk losing my daggers that I spent 10 mil+ on, I just don't have the coin to blow. I dueled a hybrid sin that was 3 lvl's above me and won 3 out of 4 fights. I won due to my high crit rate (26%), higher evasion and higher damage output that more than made up for his extra hp (almost 1000hp more than me), but I will add that my equipment was much better than his, so the playing field was not exactly level.
With that said, I get the hybrid build and I get the benifits. I even get the HA build. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. If you can afford to refine/shard everything, I think you can get away without putting any points into vit.
Only thing I can add is this: Going pure dex, you will not regret it later on. Going hybrid, you might find out that your not doing enough damage to get the job done and feel the need to restat 80+, when things start to get very easy for a pure dex sin.
I am pretty sure most of us know about Shadow Escape resetting aggro once the Assassin has taken it. However, unless you have a smart cleric, doing this is very dangerous. I have seen instances where an Assassin did just that, and once the Cleric healed them, they SE and the aggro switched to the Cleric, causing a party wipe for all but me and him, as once the Cleric died, I did a SE to avoid getting killed.I do not remember who said this on these forums, but he/she said something like this: "if the cleric is good, they will heal you when you take aggro. If they are smart, they will let you die." You might also run across a case though where PWE nerfs the SE skill, and make it so it doesn't reset aggro, just switches it to the person with the next most.
Yes, like I said, full Dex does give more benefits for PvP. At the same level with the same gear/skill levels, you can probably one-shot more people than me. However, those that you can one-shot are also arcane armors or light armors. For Blademasters and Barbs, which is the basis of this thread, you have to use a different approach. Either of them can one-shot us, so we need to be able to take a few hits in order to deal heavy DPS. You might be able to hit harder, but when you die, I would be still alive dealing damage, making up for that gap in damage.
So yes, your build has many advantages that mine doesn't, and vice versa. However, unless you can deal enough damage to kill these HA classes in a very few hits, you will not survive. However, having 1k more HP can give you the time to pull off that one more skill or three more hits to make the difference.0 -
SE quickly and the cleric wont have time to heal you. I have never once, in many, many bh's caused a party wipe doing this and I have no idea how a cleric would gain aggro over the tank, but if you say it can happen, I will trust you.
I keep repeating the SE trick because, unlike what you say, most sins do not know about it. In fact, of all the sins I have partied with, I have never once seen another sin do it and it is unfortunate. I watched a sin steal aggro and die just the other day and another steal aggro and run. Of course, this caused Pole to chase him and his AOE then killed the cleric.
I have beaten many barbs and BM's as a pure dex sin (duels, as I mentioned, I dont PVP much at this point and PVP is a different story). I beat a 92 BM as a 82 sin. I have also been beaten by BM's my same lvl. In most cases, it is typically a very close fight. Having extra HP might have helped me win more, however, I feel doing more damage and having more evasion is the key to beating them and killing them quickly in PVP is the only way your going to get around there charm, if you can. This is just from my experience. I think a sin will be fun to play regardless of what your build is.0 -
D/S - Heavens Tear wrote: »SE quickly and the cleric wont have time to heal you. I have never once, in many, many bh's caused a party wipe doing this and I have no idea how a cleric would gain aggro over the tank, but if you say it can happen, I will trust you.
I keep repeating the SE trick because, unlike what you say, most sins do not know about it. In fact, of all the sins I have partied with, I have never once seen another sin do it and it is unfortunate. I watched a sin steal aggro and die just the other day and another steal aggro and run. Of course, this caused Pole to chase him and his AOE then killed the cleric.
I have beaten many barbs and BM's as a pure dex sin (duels, as I mentioned, I dont PVP much at this point and PVP is a different story). I beat a 92 BM as a 82 sin. I have also been beaten by BM's my same lvl. In most cases, it is typically a very close fight. Having extra HP might have helped me win more, however, I feel doing more damage and having more evasion is the key to beating them and killing them quickly in PVP is the only way your going to get around there charm, if you can. This is just from my experience. I think a sin will be fun to play regardless of what your build is.
Well every Assassin I have ever partied with on my BHs (on Dreamweaver) has always SE to remove aggro. Perhaps it is because I am not as high level as you, or perhaps most higher level Assassins just used extraneous means to level quicker and didn't learn their class.
As I said, I personally believe full Dex is better for PvP. However, I do not think that it is necessarily the best against HA classes. While it is better to be able to evade their normal attacks, as it is their normal attacks hit me 3/10 times. It is the skills I would worry more about, which is why Vit is more important to me, personally.0 -
Aclucius - Lost City wrote: »Your build has then given you with the helm an additional 260 HP. Vit build would have given you 1079 more HP without the helm. May not seem like much, but that is 2 more hits from a Barb I can take.
Now, while I'm not your level, the best Barb I have fought was 4 levels above me, and I was around 65 at that time. Yes, he had Armageddon. Was he equipped with the best gear? No, but his armor were all 3* and his weapon was a TT60. I however had a mix of 3* and 1* armor, along with TT60 Daggers. What saved me was not only my HP, but Focused Mind, at level 1. I can one shot magic classes, and Barbs/Blademasters have not proven difficult for me in most cases. Perhaps I am lucky, or perhaps they all suck. Perhaps you are unlucky, or perhaps you are horrible at PvP. I can't say what the circumstances are at anything, but I can say that from my own experience, a Vit/Hybrid build has made everything much easier for me than I am hearing other full Dex Assassins say they have had.
I hear them say they have trouble with grinding, trouble with AoE's, trouble with PvP, trouble with tanking their BH bosses. However, I have very little trouble with any of that, and I don't think most of that is because of the fact that I spam double spark, or that I that I am some uber-elite Assassin, because quite frankly, I still am learning the class and it's full capabilities. I will say though that Vit does increase our HP, and also our defenses slightly. I think that seeing as our Vit gives us only 2 HP less per stat point than the Barb means that Vit should be an important stat for us.
I am not in any way saying a full Dex build is wrong. Personally, I think in many cases it is far better for PvP. However, I will say that Vit has worked very well for me, and as such I will support it as being a viable and excellent build to use.
hahahahahhahahahah wow..
ok for 1. your comparing gimping your dmg by 11 str (which when you level up you will just keep adding dex without worry for other armours. although i personally would still not add any str for helmet unless its like warsoul) and gimping it by ~100 dex --> vit lmao, which means you do 1/4 less damage at all levels AND lost 1/4 of crit rate. (to have 1k more hp, you would need to be level 100 with vit build lmao since its only like 10 hp per point? hahah only reason you would have 1k more hp than another full dex is if you had better armour -.-)
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Wow... you guys are really bad at keeping it on topic rofl.
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taylor2rain wrote: »hahahahahhahahahah wow..
ok for 1. your comparing gimping your dmg by 11 str (which when you level up you will just keep adding dex without worry for other armours. although i personally would still not add any str for helmet unless its like warsoul) and gimping it by ~100 dex --> vit lmao, which means you do 1/4 less damage at all levels AND lost 1/4 of crit rate. (to have 1k more hp, you would need to be level 100 with vit build lmao since its only like 10 hp per point? hahah only reason you would have 1k more hp than another full dex is if you had better armour -.-)
full dex or your not an assasin. (archers are in same boat)
Obviously you misunderstood me. I was not talking about gimping damage at all. The only time I have was to say that Vit build does this making it easier to manage aggro in squad. Also, do the math. It only takes 76 Vit to make 1k HP, because we get 13 HP per Vit.
There is no one build that fits all. Some prefer Vit build, others prefer hybrid, and others still prefer full Dex. However, just because you think that one build is better than all does not mean it is the only build. Based on your philosophy, Wizards/Clerics can only go 9 Mag 1 Str every 2 levels, Blademasters can only have axe build, and Venos can never go melee fox with anything but magic weapons.
@Divine_Death:
Actually, I consider a the discussion of a build to be part of tactics. The tactics of one build may not be the same as those of the other.0 -
run, run, run then run some more. See a barb run. Simple.0
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Umm hi im new to assassin(or as many call them sins) and so far my build is Vit.35 Strength 50 Dex.157 and Mag5 im gonna stop adding vit is that a good choice i deal nice damage and take more than usual sins please tell me if im doing the right decision T.T oh and im level 46 in Heavens Tear server
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Soulflames - Heavens Tear wrote: »Umm hi im new to assassin(or as many call them sins) and so far my build is Vit.35 Strength 50 Dex.157 and Mag5 im gonna stop adding vit is that a good choice i deal nice damage and take more than usual sins please tell me if im doing the right decision T.T oh and im level 46 in Heavens Tear server
Your build is fine. Wherever you go with it from here is your choice, so don't worry about it. My personal feelings are that Vit is important for Assassins, but putting little or none is fine as long as you know other ways to keep yourself alive and survive a few more hits. Just go with whatever fits your play style. If you prefer more damage, go full Dex. If you want more survivability, go Vit. If you want both, go hybrid.0 -
-_- Wow to who ever said dex built or not a sin at all, I pray for you to get a brain soon b:thanks... Any way going hybrid or even hp built isnt a bad idea with decent skills on your genie to compliment your way of fighting there is no wrong built except ofc if you put in magic, but thats on you b:surrender. So, please keep your ignorant comments to yourself please.b:laugh0
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Thinkalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »My sin's not ready for TW ..yet, but i do duel sometimes.
VS BM : all depends who is faster.... i usually telestun them, puncture wound(to bleed em), throatcut - deep sting - tackling slash.
VS cleric : they have a nasty seal, so i go stealth, telestun, PW, Throatcut, Deepsting. At 3lvls higher then my sin, they are dead by then. (unless they have Ubergear).
I stay away from Psy, Barb, Heavy veno and whiz. The worst of those being Psy if they are good at what they do, don't stand a chance then.
Archers are somewhat mixed : at close range they do half damage, so tele in to them, stun and do your thing. Don't even think about running towards em, you'll usually be dead before you reach them.
As for your stats : i prefer my own build : Full dex, enough str for armor, NO vit, gear sharded with Garnets, cape with citrines, Helmet with citrines.
If you can afford/get it : any gear with -interval is awesome.
see well thats at low levels headhunt does great on bms/barbs my combo wud start of with telestun rising dragon den headhunt can't tell u the rest its a secret b:shutup0 -
dont sins have a 4s duration, 8s cd seal? i know it costs a spark but you have a lot of spark gain skills available anyways.
i'd imagine that to be very annoying to deal with for a melee class. no other class has a seal with such a low cooldown, and stuns/paralyze you can deal with but seals you cannot easily deal with. i think if a sin can't win against a heavy, he probably can't lose unless he gets unluckily 1shotted or something.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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D/S - Heavens Tear wrote: »I steal aggro every boss, then shadow escape to reset it. Once I have done that, I can spam double spark to no end and never steal aggro again. The wonderful part of a being a sin, is we dont have to gimp ourselves because of this ability.
I am a pure dex sin and have no problems grinding, aoeing (typically take on 4 mobs my lvl at a time, any more and my charm ticks), tanking most BH bosses (even nob and pole if the cleric is good and on top of purify). I duel alot (and win 90% of the time), but rarely go PVP because I am not going to risk losing my daggers that I spent 10 mil+ on, I just don't have the coin to blow. I dueled a hybrid sin that was 3 lvl's above me and won 3 out of 4 fights. I won due to my high crit rate (26%), higher evasion and higher damage output that more than made up for his extra hp (almost 1000hp more than me), but I will add that my equipment was much better than his, so the playing field was not exactly level.
With that said, I get the hybrid build and I get the benifits. I even get the HA build. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. If you can afford to refine/shard everything, I think you can get away without putting any points into vit.
Only thing I can add is this: Going pure dex, you will not regret it later on. Going hybrid, you might find out that your not doing enough damage to get the job done and feel the need to restat 80+, when things start to get very easy for a pure dex sin.
rofl tanking pole, that bull, after his debuff the pole can prob 2 hit u, need more like 2-3 clerics for a sin to tank him0
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