Level cap on people you may PK?

VenoV - Harshlands
VenoV - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Arigora Colosseum
Does anyone else think there should be a level cap on people you can PK ? Such as 10 levels below you?

This would stop the immense amount of camping happening in the lower level zones waiting for highers to PK you.

Dont get me wrong. The pvp is the ENTIRE reason that i moved to a pvp server. Since when you turn 30 you are able to pvp your heart out.

I hit 30 and started PVPing immediately. Currently i am a blood red name at 36. I enjoy the challenge of fighting people your level to see who is the best of the best. No matter what class you may be. I even boast that i kicked a 49 BMs butt as a Veno at level 33 b:laugh. Even after he massacred my pet in a few hits.

The problem arises when you go 'infamous' and are labeled 'free for all' by ANY level above 30 in the game.

I personally only PK people slightly below of above my level. (currently 36). Which means i just PK while i quest.

I enjoy the fight. Them chasing me getting a few shots in to lower their health while they run away to pot and i persue them. But being one shot by a level 80+ hardly seems fair and is a rather turn off to most players in the game.

I dont believe i should have to stay 'white named' (meaning that you haven't killed someone ever or not in a certain amount of time) and miss out on all of the PvP action until approximately level 70! When people might actually stand a chance against the majority of the pvpers out there.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

I know many of you will say "its a pvp server get over it or go PvE", but the point is this turns many people off to the idea of a pvp server. Not actually being able to pvp until they spend ungodly amounts of time leveling thier toons up to a level where they can actually do damage against the more 'senior' members of the pvp servers.

I just suggest a simple cap of 10 levels below you(if you feel that is too drastic even 15 would be acceptable), you may not PK them. Its not too high of a number, really, and it will allow more people in the game to enjoy the pvp experience. Perhaps make an influx of new players onto pvp servers and the possibility of opening a NEW pvp server.

I do not wish to play a PvE server. I spent a month there myself leveling up a psy to 58 anda few alts to 3X. It can be rather boring.

I just wish to see a slightly better balance in PVP level wise.

30-40
41-69
70+

Those seem like adequate numbers for the level caps.

30-40 can get you acquainted with the pvp on the server. 41-69 you can hone your skills as a pvp master and everyone after 70+ feel free to enjoy the skills you have learned leveling up ;)

I am not saying these numbers EXACTLY but some sort of variation of would seem to work. This way EVERYONE gets the real pvp experience and not getting "r aped" by highers who have nothing better to do or cant compete with people their own level so they have to settle for killing the defenseless.

Thowing level 30s into an 80+ pvp world is just ludicrous.
Post edited by VenoV - Harshlands on

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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    There is already a cap its lvl 30 and it works fine. And looking at your cap list, what about those that are let say lvl 70? They wont be able to have fair fights and enjoy anything, they will just be slaughter by all 9X-100+.

    Or what if im trying to lvl my lvl 44 psychic and and lvl 68 veno and her 3X blood red friends starts camping me just 2 shooting me with nix bleed over ad over. Than i cant log any of my mains and go kill them so i can keep questing b/c my chars are 90-100+.

    Really even with lvl caps there will be great unfairness in lvls and gear and mainly numbers.

    Im also not a big fan of people that only wanna be a part of pk when they're high lvl, fully geared and prepared, its lame.

    You really aren't low lvl for a very long time anyway, i think those few occasions when u get pked by higher levels is just something everyone have to live with and accept.

    Wont be different once you hit 90 anyway, than you will get pked 6v1 instead, its pretty much the same thing as being killed by someone thats 40 lvls higher. Really nothing you can do but try to run or die.
  • Panda_mania - Lost City
    Panda_mania - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Well its true its a pvp server alot of high lvl guys will say your a noob for killing low lvls but they do the same i mean like lets c about 8 months wen Rage Quit and harvester camped secret pasage no one could get threw and i mean realy lvl 30-80 is a breaze you lvl up so fast thanks to the 3bhs a day thing you guys have it easy now
  • Jittery - Lost City
    Jittery - Lost City Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    There is already a cap its lvl 30 and it works fine. And looking at your cap list, what about those that are let say lvl 70? They wont be able to have fair fights and enjoy anything, they will just be slaughter by all 9X-100+.

    Or what if im trying to lvl my lvl 44 psychic and and lvl 68 veno and her 3X blood red friends starts camping me just 2 shooting me with nix bleed over ad over. Than i cant log any of my mains and go kill them so i can keep questing b/c my chars are 90-100+.

    Really even with lvl caps there will be great unfairness in lvls and gear and mainly numbers.

    Im also not a big fan of people that only wanna be a part of pk when they're high lvl, fully geared and prepared, its lame.

    You really aren't low lvl for a very long time anyway, i think those few occasions when u get pked by higher levels is just something everyone have to live with and accept.

    Wont be different once you hit 90 anyway, than you will get pked 6v1 instead, its pretty much the same thing as being killed by someone thats 40 lvls higher. Really nothing you can do but try to run or die.



    i agree except for one thing....you say all you can do is run or die. What about major CS. Shinzoko can take on 6 ppl at once by himself....maybey. In my opinion, if you really like the game and want to pwn...just CS and lvls and numbers against you matter less.
  • VenoV - Harshlands
    VenoV - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Sorry in advance for the giant all of text.
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    There is already a cap its lvl 30 and it works fine. And looking at your cap list, what about those that are let say lvl 70? They wont be able to have fair fights and enjoy anything, they will just be slaughter by all 9X-100+.
    I dont say my 'cap' numbers should be a final decision on numbers. Which is why i ask input from other players on the matter.

    The unfair fights are what us currently low level people run into. I have pkd people at my level since i was 30 and turned white. I find it rather enjoyable. But i end up being just another kill for the 80+ people who say i am 'Noob' for pking at 30. Well my name DID turn white at 30 which means i may PK if i choose to. This is the entire reason at 30 your name turns white, yet the highers think somehow you must earn 50+ more levels to earn the right to be able to pk? Hardly unfair in my eyes.

    Granted my little cap list could use a little tweaking. Wont argue that b:pleased
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    Or what if im trying to lvl my lvl 44 psychic and and lvl 68 veno and her 3X blood red friends starts camping me just 2 shooting me with nix bleed over ad over. Than i cant log any of my mains and go kill them so i can keep questing b/c my chars are 90-100+.

    Quite right here. This does seem hardly fair and it is something i hadn't thought about. So thank you for bringing it up. Perhaps the level cap should only work for the people below your level in some fashion unless THEY attack you first.

    That would make it so if you need to log an alt to finish up a quest or open a grind spot because you are being camped. Your alt being above the gap. they attack you and you do a nice clean whipe b:chuckle

    But dont forget even within a level cap range you may want to call on some nice friends to help clear out the unwanted kill farmers.
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    You really aren't low lvl for a very long time anyway, i think those few occasions when u get pked by higher levels is just something everyone have to live with and accept.

    Wont be different once you hit 90 anyway, than you will get pked 6v1 instead, its pretty much the same thing as being killed by someone thats 40 lvls higher. Really nothing you can do but try to run or die.

    I dont plan on being one of them 'super hard' grinders in game. I enjoy leisurely playing and pking random people that happen to be doing the same quest i am.

    When i am PKd i just say "Lol really? you didnt want a challenge -_- PK ppl you're own level. or are you unable to?" Sometimes that gets them real mad b:chuckle
    Panda_mania - Lost City wrote: »
    Well its true its a pvp server alot of high lvl guys will say your a noob for killing low lvls but they do the same i mean like lets c about 8 months wen Rage Quit and harvester camped secret pasage no one could get threw and i mean realy lvl 30-80 is a breaze you lvl up so fast thanks to the 3bhs a day thing you guys have it easy now

    I am not a huge fan of the BHs and Oracles. I am rather new to the game and i already dislike them in some fashion. It allows people to level up so fast they dont even get the slightest understanding of their characters. I tried to kill an oracle user just because it angers me b:angry but he was charmed and a few levels higher than me. hehe. so when he'd get to about 100-200 hp his charm would tick. UGH. lol i had no spark atm so he survived.

    My point on this one is i enjoy leveling and learning my character. I dont want to be a noob thrown into it all in end game where im just cannon fodder for the highers to whipe out.



    But the main point of my thread is i don't wish to see the lower levels who actually wish to pvp fairly unable to pvp. you must either stay white and get ganked randomly by people much higher than you, or turn blood red and ALL the high levels will gank you if they see you doing a simple quest.


    EXAMPLE: I was questing torgin sentries outside the south of arch across the water. i kept getting PKd.. atleast 7 times by the same high level sin. and one high-ish veno. It got to the point that the cleric i was with logged their higher veno and killed the ganking veno. They called in all their pals to try to find the sin. But every time we thought it was okay for me to finish my quest POOF the sin popped out of nowhere one shot me and ran and stealthed. lol.

    Admittedly it was 'sort' of funny. And there was a cleric to res me the 10 times the sin did this. so no tele costs (oh god those add up)

    I'd just like to see more of a balance in the pvp system of the game. Since, to me, it happens to be the most enjoyable aspect.


    Any ideas or opinions are welcome. I expect some flaming though. Hehe. probably those high levels that enjoy killing lowbies to feel powerful and would hate for it to change because otherwise they wont be bale to compete :p
  • brownflamer
    brownflamer Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The high lvls must feel like they achieved something...by reaching Endgame....you wanna take that away from them b:sad
    PS......I'm half-joking b:mischievous
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    how about you stop going red at lowbie levels....
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  • FatherTed - Lost City
    FatherTed - Lost City Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    how about you stop going red at lowbie levels....
    b:surrender

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  • Lolliipop - Harshlands
    Lolliipop - Harshlands Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    From my point of view it sounds like you're complaining (or at least ranting) about being RPKKd by higher levels. That's okay, it pisses me off as well. The best solution for this wouldn't be a "cap", but if you stopped RPKing. At least until a higher level (60+) This is because almost all leveling/questing spots for the low/mid-game levels are heavily camped by higher levels looking for low levels rpking around there and ones with red names. I suggest LPKing, (lure pking) which is punching somebody and annoying them into going PINK-named on you, and then doing your thing, it keeps you white named, and also gives you a chance of getting drops from them. It works, and is even more fun sometimes than just running around killing. RPKKers can be annoying, but one day I can guarantee you'll find yourself doing exactly what they do.

    That's just my input on the situation.
  • Jaufree - Sanctuary
    Jaufree - Sanctuary Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    This isn't Rune scape, To hell with the level cap
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  • Chickpea - Lost City
    Chickpea - Lost City Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I really dont see the point of a cap. You be will be like lvl 30-60 and defenseless for how long, like 1-2 weeks at most <.<

    Ive been rpked by meanie high lvls like 0 times since lvl 30 lol. Or maybe once when i was afk flying. Just seems like a waste of time making adjustments/ new pvp-settings of who you can attack or not when most people hit 60 in a week, lvl 80 in a month than 90 after a few runs in Frost. Rather see they spend time/money fixing annoying in game bugs than messing with the pvp-system >.<

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