Infamy Tw Income/Spending Spreadsheet for ////III

Esuna - Raging Tide
Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Tideswell (East)
Just for you ////III

lol //// mad
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Gotta love the cash shop idiots.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Just for you MrMime

    Infamy Funds 12/4/2010


    There, fixed.
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  • Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    for Mime or ///III either way... pretty funny b:chuckle


    edit: but ///III has peaked Fuzzy's curiosity.. me has seen NightRage wc'ing for much types of event gear.. the coin come from somewhere.

    No idea and honestly no care where the coin comes from but it does make Fuzzy wonder how others pay out TW funds...

    at least in Varden.. u TW, u get the exact same share as everyone else be u lvl 1 or lvl 100...
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  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    i fcken lold
  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    for Mime or ///III either way... pretty funny b:chuckle


    edit: but ///III has peaked Fuzzy's curiosity.. me has seen NightRage wc'ing for much types of event gear.. the coin come from somewhere.

    No idea and honestly no care where the coin comes from but it does make Fuzzy wonder how others pay out TW funds...

    at least in Varden.. u TW, u get the exact same share as everyone else be u lvl 1 or lvl 100...

    I've seen a lot of other people shout about event gear also b:shocked pretty sure they didn't lead factions with over 5 lands...

    Long story short; Faction money > Gold > Packs > Event Rares > Money > Faction money. Most of the event gears from the packs were sold to members at a sharply reduced rate, restoring and adding to the faction's total net worth.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Gotta love the cash shop idiots.
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I've seen a lot of other people shout about event gear also b:shocked pretty sure they didn't lead factions with over 5 lands...

    Long story short; Faction money > Gold > Packs > Event Rares > Money > Faction money. Most of the event gears from the packs were sold to members at a sharply reduced rate, restoring and adding to the faction's total net worth.

    ic, so basically ur saying, esuna, that the extra sum of guild money goes into buying gold, which in turn becomes packs. Then the rares are sold off to guildies for reduced prices.

    1. I shouldn't have to remind you that rares are...well, quite rare. Rares that don't happen to be charms/best luck/diamonds of tiger are even more so. How many rares have u gotten that way to sell to guildies. And I see that NightRage is fully event geared. So I assume that he bought it off himself?

    2. What happens to the tons of tokens left over? They are a form of currency too. Don't tell me, did you sell the tokens for discount prices too? I was in infamy for a while and have not heard anything of this sort...

    3. Factions total net worth. I'm sorry, what is that? Is there something other than that ridiculous picture that determines what it actually is? From my understanding there's only 10 million big bank notes in NightRages' stock that has anything to do with infamy. There is no infamy bank, no infamy income chart, nothing what-so-ever to keep track of this so called "net worth". Again, what is it?

    And for assuming that im mime, ty but if i had that much money i wouldn't be complaining.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2010

    1. I shouldn't have to remind you that rares are...well, quite rare. Rares that don't happen to be charms/best luck/diamonds of tiger are even more so. How many rares have u gotten that way to sell to guildies. And I see that NightRage is fully event geared. So I assume that he bought it off himself?
    And I see that NightRage is fully event geared.

    Yes, NightRage is using guild money on his epic +2 TT90 gears.


    Hell I'm not even level 90 yet and my TT90 is already better sharded/refined than his.
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    "My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain, I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rawr do u not remember what u read? OMG ill post it again.

    One last point about NightRage. He is by far the smartest man I know. Since the beginning of the server he has ran around with really bad gear, even his bow is mediocre, which for an archer is pretty bad. However, he was strong enough to bear with that because he was farming reputation at that point. No, I don't mean darkness stamps. I mean he sacrificed his fun to build a reputation that he doesn't use guild money for gears. Slowly, he will allocate the guild money toward his gear as Infamy gain more and more lands. Right now I believe he is running around with all event gears atm. He is still holding back because Infamy isn't absolute at this point, so the refines are only average. Once Infamy owns more than half the map you will begin to see his true gears, because he has accumulated enough money to upgrade them all at once. However, it will be too late at that point and no one will question him.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rawr do u not remember what u read? OMG ill post it again.

    One last point about NightRage. He is by far the smartest man I know. Since the beginning of the server he has ran around with really bad gear, even his bow is mediocre, which for an archer is pretty bad. However, he was strong enough to bear with that because he was farming reputation at that point. No, I don't mean darkness stamps. I mean he sacrificed his fun to build a reputation that he doesn't use guild money for gears. Slowly, he will allocate the guild money toward his gear as Infamy gain more and more lands. Right now I believe he is running around with all event gears atm. He is still holding back because Infamy isn't absolute at this point, so the refines are only average. Once Infamy owns more than half the map you will begin to see his true gears, because he has accumulated enough money to upgrade them all at once. However, it will be too late at that point and no one will question him.
    Is this before or after the world ends in 2012 due to the aliens landing on the pyramids and taking over?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rawr do u not remember what u read? OMG ill post it again.

    One last point about NightRage. He is by far the smartest man I know. Since the beginning of the server he has ran around with really bad gear, even his bow is mediocre, which for an archer is pretty bad. However, he was strong enough to bear with that because he was farming reputation at that point. No, I don't mean darkness stamps. I mean he sacrificed his fun to build a reputation that he doesn't use guild money for gears. Slowly, he will allocate the guild money toward his gear as Infamy gain more and more lands. Right now I believe he is running around with all event gears atm. He is still holding back because Infamy isn't absolute at this point, so the refines are only average. Once Infamy owns more than half the map you will begin to see his true gears, because he has accumulated enough money to upgrade them all at once. However, it will be too late at that point and no one will question him.

    lolumadbro?
  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    ic, so basically ur saying, esuna, that the extra sum of guild money goes into buying gold, which in turn becomes packs. Then the rares are sold off to guildies for reduced prices.

    1. I shouldn't have to remind you that rares are...well, quite rare. Rares that don't happen to be charms/best luck/diamonds of tiger are even more so. How many rares have u gotten that way to sell to guildies. And I see that NightRage is fully event geared. So I assume that he bought it off himself?

    None of my rares were sold to me from Infamy Bank I'm afraid. I got a FC Gold Weapon at the beginning of the server. Recently I traded it (along with some random armor and whatnot) for a lunar bow.

    My lunar cape? Traded to me from Andronikos.

    My lunar ring number one? Lucky drop out of a pack months ago.

    My lunar ring number two? Bought from Diesel

    My Helm of Holy Punishment? Early Anniversary Pack Drop.

    My Heavenrage Boots? Same as above.

    That stuff has been sitting in my bank since the first month, and it was already made.

    The stuff I've gotten recently that I sold to a guildie was a lunar cape and a lunar weapon.


    2. What happens to the tons of tokens left over? They are a form of currency too. Don't tell me, did you sell the tokens for discount prices too? I was in infamy for a while and have not heard anything of this sort...

    Oh look, you've finally caught me. Yes, I do have a TON of tokens set aside that belong to Infamy. No I have not sold any of them. I plan to distribute them with pay or events or something.

    3. Factions total net worth. I'm sorry, what is that? Is there something other than that ridiculous picture that determines what it actually is? From my understanding there's only 10 million big bank notes in NightRages' stock that has anything to do with infamy. There is no infamy bank, no infamy income chart, nothing what-so-ever to keep track of this so called "net worth". Again, what is it?

    No Big Bank Notes here.

    There is an Infamy Bank. I used to have people send bills there, but I always forgot to check it.

    No income chart, correct. You're not a member. umad?


    And for assuming that im mime, ty but if i had that much money i wouldn't be complaining.

    10char10char
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rawrgh - where is this blind loyalty stemming from

    Bastilla - have yet to say anything constructive/of substance (or a braindead monkey cant roll his face on the keyboard and produce)

    NightRage - throughout the game you have told ppl and self-claimed to be a non-cash shopper. A lot of these items are claimed to be won "early game". If you are indeed not a cash shopper how did that happen? Of course, you can be rly good at in game economics. But one, how can u manage so much in the first month of the game? Two, even great economists need startup cash.

    NightRage, as soon as a weekly distribution chart of Infamy guild money goes up on forum, I will immediately stop this. I rly don't think it's too much to ask for.

    (and yes, I can indeed check if its up or not)
  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rawrgh - where is this blind loyalty stemming from

    Bastilla - have yet to say anything constructive/of substance (or a braindead monkey cant roll his face on the keyboard and produce)

    NightRage - throughout the game you have told ppl and self-claimed to be a non-cash shopper. A lot of these items are claimed to be won "early game". If you are indeed not a cash shopper how did that happen? Of course, you can be rly good at in game economics. But one, how can u manage so much in the first month of the game? Two, even great economists need startup cash.

    NightRage, as soon as a weekly distribution chart of Infamy guild money goes up on forum, I will immediately stop this. I rly don't think it's too much to ask for.

    (and yes, I can indeed check if its up or not)

    I've NEVER claimed to not spend cash. Quite to the contrary, I've openly admitted to spending thousands of dollars across the servers I've played.

    Nameless alt, as soon as you grow a pair, and tell me who you are, I would be more than happy to appease the request of an Infamy member and post an income chart.
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I've NEVER claimed to not spend cash. Quite to the contrary, I've openly admitted to spending thousands of dollars across the servers I've played.

    Nameless alt, as soon as you grow a pair, and tell me who you are, I would be more than happy to appease the request of an Infamy member and post an income chart.

    ....
    how stupid do u think i am
    you rly expect me to honestly tell u who i am so i can get on my leader's bad side and forfeit any chance of possibly destroying the guild...?

    or are u rly smart and just figure that i won't do it so that u can be spared of posting an income chart to limit ur wallet.

    somehow i think scenario 2 is much more likely
  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rawrgh - where is this blind loyalty stemming from

    Bastilla - have yet to say anything constructive/of substance (or a braindead monkey cant roll his face on the keyboard and produce)

    NightRage - throughout the game you have told ppl and self-claimed to be a non-cash shopper. A lot of these items are claimed to be won "early game". If you are indeed not a cash shopper how did that happen? Of course, you can be rly good at in game economics. But one, how can u manage so much in the first month of the game? Two, even great economists need startup cash.

    NightRage, as soon as a weekly distribution chart of Infamy guild money goes up on forum, I will immediately stop this. I rly don't think it's too much to ask for.

    (and yes, I can indeed check if its up or not)


    heres something constructive: you are a troll, you are butthurt over the fact that nightrage is successful at leading a successful guild. in an attempt to incite more hate towards infamu you are throwing out baseless claims without backing any of them up, while demanding nightrage back his **** up. that is a form of trolling. you have provided absolutely NO proof that you are a member of infamu, that you have access to infamu forums, or that nightrage is stealing ANY guild money. i am positive that night will post the "proof" you are asking for under several conditions: 1) you post on your infamu character so he can see if you really are one. 2) you retract all accusations of theft. 3) you apologize and not only beg him, but the rest of the server for forgiveness.

    but since you are a dirty troll with nothing useful to say yourself, why should i contribute anything myself?
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    heres something constructive: you are a troll, you are butthurt over the fact that nightrage is successful at leading a successful guild. in an attempt to incite more hate towards infamu you are throwing out baseless claims without backing any of them up, while demanding nightrage back his **** up. that is a form of trolling. you have provided absolutely NO proof that you are a member of infamu, that you have access to infamu forums, or that nightrage is stealing ANY guild money. i am positive that night will post the "proof" you are asking for under several conditions: 1) you post on your infamu character so he can see if you really are one. 2) you retract all accusations of theft. 3) you apologize and not only beg him, but the rest of the server for forgiveness.

    but since you are a dirty troll with nothing useful to say yourself, why should i contribute anything myself?

    You actually said something worth responding to this time.

    1. I'm not a troll, a troll would require a constant uptake of meaningless threads with no purpose but to prolong dead conversations. I do not believe this matter to be meaningless nor have I ever posted on anything other than this matter.

    2. As I stated before I'm not jealous of the fact that NightRage is leading a successful faction. Actually I applaud that, as I applaud Couri for doing a damn good job with Leviathan. However, as I also stated before I am jealous of his squandering of guild cash. I'm not a saint, but neither is he.

    3. I'm not trying to incite hate on Infamy. Infamy can own the map for all I care. I just want the members to open their eyes to the rip-off that's so blatantly obvious.

    4. I do have backup for my claims, and they are the mystery coins that seem voided when u do a simple calculation of infamy's monetary intake every week.

    5. The three things that you requested are childish. One, if I tell him who I am do u honestly think he will treat me nicely? Two, why should I remove accusation of theft when nothing has been done about it? Three, do u speak for the rest of the server?
  • KanyeWest - Raging Tide
    KanyeWest - Raging Tide Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    ....
    how stupid do u think i am
    you rly expect me to honestly tell u who i am so i can get on my leader's bad side and forfeit any chance of possibly destroying the guild...?

    or are u rly smart and just figure that i won't do it so that u can be spared of posting an income chart to limit ur wallet.

    somehow i think scenario 2 is much more likely

    Yo ////III I'm really happy for you and I'm gonna let you finish but Rawrgh had one of the best masterplans to take infamu down of all time. ALL TIME.
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    rwar why did u bother lvling it to 4? does it make it less obvious? and im rly surprised that the name hasnt been taken.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    NightRage I demand a weekly pay chart.




    One that involves me getting 20mil per week.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain, I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."
  • KanyeWest - Raging Tide
    KanyeWest - Raging Tide Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ding level 5
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yo ////III I'm really happy for you and I'm gonna let you finish but Rawrgh had one of the best masterplans to take infamu down of all time. ALL TIME.
    That's defiantely sig worthy.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "My understanding of women only goes as far as the pleasure. When it comes to the pain, I'm like any other bloke - I don't want to know."
  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    You actually said something worth responding to this time.

    1. I'm not a troll, a troll would require a constant uptake of meaningless threads with no purpose but to prolong dead conversations. I do not believe this matter to be meaningless nor have I ever posted on anything other than this matter.

    2. As I stated before I'm not jealous of the fact that NightRage is leading a successful faction. Actually I applaud that, as I applaud Couri for doing a damn good job with Leviathan. However, as I also stated before I am jealous of his squandering of guild cash. I'm not a saint, but neither is he.

    3. I'm not trying to incite hate on Infamy. Infamy can own the map for all I care. I just want the members to open their eyes to the rip-off that's so blatantly obvious.

    4. I do have backup for my claims, and they are the mystery coins that seem voided when u do a simple calculation of infamy's monetary intake every week.

    5. The three things that you requested are childish. One, if I tell him who I am do u honestly think he will treat me nicely? Two, why should I remove accusation of theft when nothing has been done about it? Three, do u speak for the rest of the server?

    1) you have posted about this meaningless topic in several threads. i smell a troll

    2)
    WHY IS IT SO **** HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT IM TRYING TO HELP YOU!

    i have nothing against infamy. ill be completedly honest. i'm jealous of nightrage and what he gets to pocket every week. i wish i was him. but since i'm not, i just want to open your eyes on what rly goes on behind the scenes. go ahead, bash me all u want.

    on a follow-up note. nightrage did put a lot of work into getting what he gets. he probably deserves that extra pocketmoney week, but it DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT.
    you admited it yourself bro. i smell a troll

    3)you are trying to destroy infamu. therefor inciting hate. i smell a troll

    4)if they are voided then they are not there, lack of proof. i smell a troll

    5)hiding behind an alt is childish. attempting to destroy a faction out of jealousy is childish. and yes i do speak for the server. i smell a troll



    5-0 bastilla
    your serve
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    1) you have posted about this meaningless topic in several threads. i smell a troll

    2)
    you admited it yourself bro. i smell a troll

    3)you are trying to destroy infamu. therefor inciting hate. i smell a troll

    4)if they are voided then they are not there, lack of proof. i smell a troll

    5)hiding behind an alt is childish. attempting to destroy a faction out of jealousy is childish. and yes i do speak for the server. i smell a troll



    5-0 bastilla
    your serve

    1. I didn't start any of those 3 threads. One was started by Linc, one by someone in QQme, and 1 most recently as a way of jokingly downplay the matter by Esuna. They are all related to the same topic that is why I play there.
    2. I never denied/attempted to deny that fact, in fact I stated right there.
    3. Destroying infamy is ideal but it is most likely impossible. Therefore I wish for a fairly-distributative infamy instead of one where NightRage reaped all the benefit.
    4. Just because the coins don't show up in the calculation doesn't mean its not there.
    5. No, u do not speak for the server. Neither do I. We both speak for parts of the server. I rly don't want to argue with you there
  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    1. I didn't start any of those 3 threads. One was started by Linc, one by someone in QQme, and 1 most recently as a way of jokingly downplay the matter by Esuna. They are all related to the same topic that is why I play there.
    2. I never denied/attempted to deny that fact, in fact I stated right there.
    3. Destroying infamy is ideal but it is most likely impossible. Therefore I wish for a fairly-distributative infamy instead of one where NightRage reaped all the benefit.
    4. Just because the coins don't show up in the calculation doesn't mean its not there.
    5. No, u do not speak for the server. Neither do I. We both speak for parts of the server. I rly don't want to argue with you there

    1) you replied to those posts in an attempt to cause grief. you are a dirty troll

    2)
    You actually said something worth responding to this time.

    2. As I stated before I'm not jealous of the fact that NightRage is leading a successful faction. Actually I applaud that, as I applaud Couri for doing a damn good job with Leviathan. However, as I also stated before I am jealous of his squandering of guild cash. I'm not a saint, but neither is he.
    that is denial right there. you are a dirty troll

    3)still attempting to incite hatred. which by the way you didnt deny for one. you are a dirty troll

    4)yeah, coins "not there" means they arent there. which means you have no proof. you are a dirty troll

    5) yes i do, notice you are the only one argueing with me over this matter. you are a dirty troll



    10-nil bastilla

    try again troll
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    1) you replied to those posts in an attempt to cause grief. you are a dirty troll

    2)
    that is denial right there. you are a dirty troll

    3)still attempting to incite hatred. which by the way you didnt deny for one. you are a dirty troll

    4)yeah, coins "not there" means they arent there. which means you have no proof. you are a dirty troll

    5) yes i do, notice you are the only one argueing with me over this matter. you are a dirty troll



    10-nil bastilla

    try again troll

    Responding to you for the second time is probably one of the dumbest things I'll ever do but what you speak isn't the truth

    1. I'm trying to expose the truth. In doing so it will be inciting grief on one person, but open the eyes of 170.
    2. I never denied anything
    3. See number 1
    4. If money is always considered "not existent" when they are not accounted for then this world be in chaos. Accounts would be the richest job in the world.
    5. You are the only non-infamy that's arguing with me.
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    also i have come to this realization that this exchange is going no where. i won't bother respond to anything u say unless its of different substance. please do not take that to mean that u've won though.
  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    5. You are the only non-infamy that's arguing with me.

    Shows how much forum access you have, Bastilla is in Infamy, rofl.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Gotta love the cash shop idiots.
  • ////III - Harshlands9
    ////III - Harshlands9 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    i cant keep track of non-factors in infamy, after all there are 170 members. that isn't soemthing that forum indicates, it just requires loggin in and see the title above his head...
  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Responding to you for the second time is probably one of the dumbest things I'll ever do but what you speak isn't the truth

    1. I'm trying to expose the truth. In doing so it will be inciting grief on one person, but open the eyes of 170.
    2. I never denied anything
    3. See number 1
    4. If money is always considered "not existent" when they are not accounted for then this world be in chaos. Accounts would be the richest job in the world.
    5. You are the only non-infamy that's arguing with me.

    1. lolumadtroll?
    2. yes you did, ive quoted you several times and you still continue to deny it.
    3.see number 1
    4. this makes no sense to what you are trying to argue.
    5. you obviously DONT have access to the infamu forums/arent in infamu then
  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    also i have come to this realization that this exchange is going no where. i won't bother respond to anything u say unless its of different substance. please do not take that to mean that u've won though.



    LOLUMADTROLL?!?!?!?!?!?!?? its cuz i out-trolled you isnt it?
  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    2. I never denied/attempted to deny that fact, in fact I stated right there.
    3. Destroying infamy is ideal but it is most likely impossible. Therefore I wish for a fairly-distributative infamy instead of one where NightRage reaped all the benefit.
    NightRage, I dont why ur sarcastically recruiting me. I have made it clear that I am against your intentions. So, forgive me if I'm not overwhelmingly offended at my rejection to joining your guild.
    I am a member, it's nothing to be proud of as I'm only awaiting my time to strike. I know exactly what you would do if I riled up anything of sorts. You would categorize it as drama and I'll be out b4 I noe it.

    You hate Infamu or you are a member? Contradict more please.

    Hint: If you were a member, you'd know Bastilla is one too.

    Destroying Infamy is ideal or you wouldn't mind us owning the whole map? Pick a story please.