Make the 2x Exp/Drop Permanent

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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hazumu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Who grinds with 1x droprate and xp?`Nobody, whom benefits from this? Nobody.

    Who grinds with 2x droprate? Conciderably more than with 1x it seems. Whom does this benefit? Everyone whom thinks BH's is ruining the game.

    Which option is more benefitial overall? ^^

    Guess that makes me 'nobody'. Just because YOU don't grind under normal experience doesn't mean no-one else does.
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I have to agree with Ted on this, I grind all the time under normal conditions. When I'm done with BH, turned in CS, and have nothing else to do I AoE grind on poison mobs on Zan or I go AoE grind Seaweed Thieves/Pirates on Zoll... Grinding can be profitable even without double drops, you just gotta know what mobs to kill :3
  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Grinding can be profitable even without double drops, you just have to be a high level cleric :3
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I half agree with the 2x drop perm, make the extra drop rate at maybe 150% rate from boutique and only temporary each?

    2x exp? Nah, there is already items in boutique that increase exp and there is lots of plvl stuff. Buy some training escort then.
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  • SirJorge - Heavens Tear
    SirJorge - Heavens Tear Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Well with the Pwi economy now i think the x2 drops should stay or be tweaked a bit.

    It would be very beneficial for us non-Csers and grinders.

    All im asking to make 2x drops is the DQ items, all the other ones can stay at 1x.
    So it wont ruin "cs mats"
  • SpiritReaver - Raging Tide
    SpiritReaver - Raging Tide Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The 2X Drops may not become permanent but a better idea would be to have them happen maybe every few days or hours, as to not make the game to easy. Although it is hard to level by just killing enemies and if you die and dont have an item to prevent the experience loss well... you would likely look like this: b:shocked b:angry b:sad
  • ZoanoAce - Lost City
    ZoanoAce - Lost City Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    SirJorge - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well with the Pwi economy now i think the x2 drops should stay or be tweaked a bit.

    It would be very beneficial for us non-Csers and grinders.

    All im asking to make 2x drops is the DQ items, all the other ones can stay at 1x.
    So it wont ruin "cs mats"
    ^I'm with this 1, the drop rate increase while mob kill questing/grinding really help with paying for repairs, potions and other things while still giving you great profit after those expenses b:victory
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    OVER 9000X DROPS OR GTFO!!111!!!!!

    Seriously, these people should just get a new daily quest, you pick it up. You port to one random location talk to an npc, then port back and collect 1m coin. It would make everyone so happy. ^^
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    OVER 9000X DROPS OR GTFO!!111!!!!!

    Seriously, these people should just get a new daily quest, you pick it up. You port to one random location talk to an npc, then port back and collect 1m coin. It would make everyone so happy. ^^

    if tht happens ill be blaming you for the game dyingb:laugh all i wnt from the 2x thing is just drops exp & spirit are just fine but drops arent so good
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    having perma 2x would be a very stupid thing to have....
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    having perma 2x would be a very stupid thing to have....
    b:surrender

    how bout if the 2x drops is only for mobs outside of an instance would tht be betterb:victory
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    anwynd wrote: »
    how bout if the 2x drops is only for mobs outside of an instance would tht be betterb:victory

    no.....as having 2x drops permanently would flood the market with coins making coins worth even less then before.
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    there always has to be some sort of "lower class"
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  • Hazumu - Dreamweaver
    Hazumu - Dreamweaver Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    @Father / Zan

    I grind on normal too, just way more rarely. Of course there are random people grinding on normal too, but the incentive to do so ain't there.

    It's more profitable to do lunar runs for coin, or TT runs. It's better xp to do BH, or FC.

    If grinding gives less xp and coin than something else you can do, why bother?

    Either make grinding worth as much, or nerf the instance runs to be worth as much as grinding. Those are the only ways to have more people spread around the map, instead of bunched together at the BH guy.

    Break the current status quo
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hazumu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    nerf the instance runs

    Bingo! That's what I really want to see happen. Cut back massively on the amount of experience low-mid level BHs (anything below say - lvl 95) give, and possibly find a way where in order to succeed the bounty, everyone in your party must be in level range to accept that bounty.

    And sorry if I came off a little chippy - I get frustrated on these forums when people use words like "no-one" and "everyone." :o
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    No, having 2x drops/Exp/Spirit permanent won't be a good thing to have because it will make the game more easy as it is now.

    There's already many ways to lvl fast like BH's, CS's, WQ's, zhening, and more. Also, if the 2x thing became permanent there will be to many people lvling to fast and they won't know how to play their class causing more party wipes in squad doing BH's or TT's.

    Yes, having 2x everything is great time to time but making it permanent is not a good idea.
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  • Hazumu - Dreamweaver
    Hazumu - Dreamweaver Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm not convinced that grinding would cause noobism in the same scale as.... say oracles have.

    In fact I don't think it is physically possible for plain grinding to cause noobism?

    The reason why oracle causes noobism is because those people grind on the same mob and never see any variation. But regular mob grinding forces you to change mobs from low lvl ones to higher lvl ones and you want better gear for them to be able to grind better, more efficiently.

    But that's only my opinion.
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    all we need imo is the 2x drops we dont need the 2x exp or spirit we can get those easily but i rlly think we need better drop rate on mobs outside of instancesb:victory
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  • Grippieluver - Lost City
    Grippieluver - Lost City Posts: 9,807 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    agreed.. only dropz
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  • Vorhs - Lost City
    Vorhs - Lost City Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    agree on 2x drops OUTSIDE istances, disagree the rest
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  • Darach - Dreamweaver
    Darach - Dreamweaver Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oh great... another handout. I come from the generation before Hyper/whoracle/BH and we didn't need double xp/drops to make coin. Making money isn't insanely hard, grind for more than 20 minutes, keep the drops and soon you'll have a few hundred thousand. Stop asking for handouts, BH and Hypers have done MORE than enough for you.

    Who knows... if you spent more time grinding instead of whining about drop rates maybe you'd have money... >.>

    Here Here! I'd have to agree with Zanryu on this one. Grind it out and stop looking for handouts. People forget or don't realize the hard work the first players on each server had to put into getting to where they are. There were no high levels to walk them through an fb or hand them old gear. Work for it - it makes everything matter that much more.
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