I need help!

k0ofdeath
k0ofdeath Posts: 0 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Assassin
Ok, im a level 20 assassin, and i cant survive 2 minutes without eating around 3 hp potions. Its starting to add up, and im poor.b:sad

Is there something wrong with my combo's? or is this how an assassin will always be?b:cold

What I do to kill a mob is: 3 ranged hits, punture wound, deep sting,waited for the effect to come off, and then slipstream; I always manage to get hit 2-3 times at the least.

Please share your ideas and opinions.
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  • Nercohell - Harshlands
    Nercohell - Harshlands Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    First don't wait until stun wears off attack at that momemt! And second what his your build?
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Nercohell - Harshlands wrote: »
    First don't wait until stun wears off attack at that momemt! And second what his your build?

    deep sting isnt a stun, it's a sleep

    OP:best bet is to farm nectar and golden herbs and make HP powders at apothecary
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  • ACLucius - Archosaur
    ACLucius - Archosaur Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Nercohell - Harshlands wrote: »
    First don't wait until stun wears off attack at that momemt! And second what his your build?

    You always wait for the sleep effect to come off naturally when you use Puncture Wound beforehand. It prevents you from taking damage for that 5 seconds it's asleep while also causing it to suffer damage. If you attack, the sleep effect is negated and Deep Sting just became a worthless attack.

    To OP: Tell us your build, that will help us determine if your character is at the right stats for it's level to have everything you need and maximize survival. Also, use Life Powder, it will increase your HP regen to 50/second outside of battle. You can make it with apothecary manufacturing skill using 15 Nectar and 10 Golden Herb, which produces 5 Life Powder.
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  • Plicid - Heavens Tear
    Plicid - Heavens Tear Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Get a Bow, use it at max range till the mob comes within range then slipstream and auto attack. you wont take much dmg. and dont worry too much things get better once you get bloodpaint.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Stop being poor.
  • k0ofdeath
    k0ofdeath Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ok Ive been using the pure dex build (4 dex 1 str).

    To Plicid: I already use a bow, and Ive already tried that tactic, after I use the bow to full range, i get in about 460 damage on a 2.4k hp mob. then i use slipstream and I hit around 750. That leaves a 1350 hp mob, and an assassin with 550/700 hp. Calculating it will take me 10 hits to kill it, that means I get hit around 3 times, at 94 damage each hit. This leaves me even worse off than my current tactic.

    To ACLucius and Nercohell: I said that i waited for the deep sting sleep to wear off in the post.b:chuckle

    Also To ACLucius: I'm currently farming for Life Powders anyway. b:victory But I can't seem to find a lot of golden herbs.
  • The_Wall - Heavens Tear
    The_Wall - Heavens Tear Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    If you really really really really dislike using that many potions you may want to consider being Heavy Armor. Your damage will be reduced but against physical damage minions you will prevent a great amount of damage. But you also need to remember with that you will be the squishiest thing in the game to magic damage and if your going to go HA make sure your refines are good once you have armor good enough to refine or your squandering one of the best parts of that armor type.

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  • k0ofdeath
    k0ofdeath Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    If i switch to HA, I will be even weaker. HA requires more points into str, which means less attack, and also if i wore HA, my special assassin armour would be gone, causing me to loose 4 vit points and 6 dex.

    Assassins arnt about defense, they are about speed a power. With HA i have defense and speed, but a lot less power.
  • ACLucius - Archosaur
    ACLucius - Archosaur Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The_Wall - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you really really really really dislike using that many potions you may want to consider being Heavy Armor. Your damage will be reduced but against physical damage minions you will prevent a great amount of damage. But you also need to remember with that you will be the squishiest thing in the game to magic damage and if your going to go HA make sure your refines are good once you have armor good enough to refine or your squandering one of the best parts of that armor type.

    RAWR! I'm a tiger

    HA requires 2.5 Str and 1 Dex every level. Daggers require 3 Dex and 1 Str every level. Do the math, and unless you know of an extra .5 Stat I can get every level, it won't work at the start. Later on, a person can restat, but that would be worthless to become HA in end game and nerf the massive damage we can do.
    k0ofdeath wrote: »
    Ok Ive been using the pure dex build (4 dex 1 str).

    To Plicid: I already use a bow, and Ive already tried that tactic, after I use the bow to full range, i get in about 460 damage on a 2.4k hp mob. then i use slipstream and I hit around 750. That leaves a 1350 hp mob, and an assassin with 550/700 hp. Calculating it will take me 10 hits to kill it, that means I get hit around 3 times, at 94 damage each hit. This leaves me even worse off than my current tactic.

    To ACLucius and Nercohell: I said that i waited for the deep sting sleep to wear off in the post.b:chuckle

    Also To ACLucius: I'm currently farming for Life Powders anyway. b:victory But I can't seem to find a lot of golden herbs.

    My response on the Deep Sting was towards Nercohell, telling him that you have to wait for the sleep to wear off.

    As far as farming the mats, what I actually did is right from the start of my character farm every single Golden Herb and Nectar until I reached Archosaur, at which point I had over 200 Nectar and Golden Herb.

    However, seeing as you are going to have to make up for that, go to either the Tideborn or Elven starting areas and run around. Usually, all herbs in those two will have all the herbs grouped up close to each other, and there will be two of each.

    This map will help you find all the mats you need. It is very specific on where each one is found and you can narrow your search to whatever you need. However, it has yet to be updated on the new areas implemented in the Rising Tide expansion.
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  • The_Wall - Heavens Tear
    The_Wall - Heavens Tear Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I am well aware of how much Dex is needed for daggers and Str needed for your armor if you want to use gear that it up to your level. You will always need a certain amount of Str and or Dex from gear in order for your equipment to be up to date. End game I cannot say if it will be advantage or disadvantage yet being there are very few who can give information on it.

    End game TW HA would be an advantage most the time. Wherever the battle is the thickest your probably going to be taking much more physical damage than magic damage. Have an advantage against other assassins/Barbarians/BMs because you will actually be able to hold your own against them. Most instances HA would probably improve your survivability and if your weapon and armor are up to a certain point you are a viable tank. Be much safer to do afk damage in instances if you were HA. Do smaller amount of damage and therefore less likely to take any aggro if the tanker is having some sort of problem. Grinding on minions can vary in advantages and disadvantages. Should be able to handle more at the same time and use less potions/charms but also take longer to kill each individual minion unless your able to increase the number your fighting at the same time because of your increased physical damage survivability enough that you would actually be killing more quickly.

    End game LA your going to be able to kill in Pk much faster. Less crowded parts of TW probably be more effective. Do much more damage in instances. If your tanker is having absolutely no aggro problems (Be a demon fist BM for this to be possible) you will be contributing much more with your higher damage. Able to kill minions 1 vs. 1 much faster.

    I myself am playing a LA assassin with just enough Str to wear his armor. Currently Lv: 88 at this point and who knows I might make him High Vit or HA at some point. I am willing to give the max possible damage while current level armor build a try.

    I at no point was even endorsing the HA build. Life Powder, Puncture Wound + Deep Sting and stuns was already mentioned, Okeano's stop being poor idea were all already mentioned so I added changing armor type to address the original problem which was the high use of potions.

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  • Legend - Raging Tide
    Legend - Raging Tide Posts: 392 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Reroll a bm or barb kthnxbye
    -quit-
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  • ACLucius - Archosaur
    ACLucius - Archosaur Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The_Wall - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I at no point was even endorsing the HA build. Life Powder, Puncture Wound + Deep Sting and stuns was already mentioned, Okeano's stop being poor idea were all already mentioned so I added changing armor type to address the original problem which was the high use of potions.

    RAWR! I'm a tiger

    The problem of pots was already solved. Life Powder takes care of any need for pots except in emergencies. Life Powder+Blood Paint=God Mode Assassin (in 1v1 PvE) as long as you stick to normal mobs in your level range.
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  • Ewen - Harshlands
    Ewen - Harshlands Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I wonder why my sin didn't have any problems at 2x (he is 31 now) o.o Maybe it was the buffs which my friends gave to me. b:victory I even have exactly the same build and same tactics (I don't have a bow yet though).
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