What Will I need to Solo HH?

_LeaderAlan_ - Lost City
_LeaderAlan_ - Lost City Posts: 128 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Venomancer
What will I need to solo hh runs?

Pet
Pet Skills
Armor
Shards
Player Skills
Player Stats
People if any
Anyother information

Thank You very muchb:pleased
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    The ability to read any of the many MANY threads talking about this very thing?


    The only thing you NEED is a decent tank pet, and a fully levelled up pet heal, and level 60 (to get in)

    As you have progressively more than that, you can start to do more bosses and more modes.
  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    What will I need to solo hh runs?

    You would probably need the Malaysian version of PW, as PWI only serves TT runs.
    • Pet - Herc. No not a supercharged magmite. Herc. Unless you wanna be stuck farming Chintiens Edges and make an awesome 80k/hour.
    • Pet Skills - Herc comes with a load of defensive skills. Add Bash to this array.
    • Armor - Anything with channeling and Mag on it will do. Venos can do TT in lv1 gear, it doesn't really matter.
    • Shards - The highest Sapphires you can afford in your weapon, armor and shards for armor are irrelevant in TT.
    • Player Skills - Pet Heal, Pet Revive, Ironwood Scarab
    • Player Stats - Mag. Lots of Mag.
    • People if any - Archers for Sharptooth, get cleric buffs before you start for added heal power.
    • Any other information - Enjoy getting your TT90 set in 2-3 days and watch your fishperson faction mates QQ about how DDs have a hard knock life.
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  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    What will I need to solo hh runs?

    Pet
    Pet Skills
    Armor
    Shards
    Player Skills
    Player Stats

    None of the above
    People if any

    Chuck Norris.
    Madness?

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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You would probably need the Malaysian version of PW, as PWI only serves TT runs.
    • Pet - Herc. No not a supercharged magmite. Herc. Unless you wanna be stuck farming Chintiens Edges and make an awesome 80k/hour.
    • Pet Skills - Herc comes with a load of defensive skills. Add Bash to this array.
    • Armor - Anything with channeling and Mag on it will do. Venos can do TT in lv1 gear, it doesn't really matter.
    • Shards - The highest Sapphires you can afford in your weapon, armor and shards for armor are irrelevant in TT.
    • Player Skills - Pet Heal, Pet Revive, Ironwood Scarab
    • Player Stats - Mag. Lots of Mag.
    • People if any - Archers for Sharptooth, get cleric buffs before you start for added heal power.
    • Any other information - Enjoy getting your TT90 set in 2-3 days and watch your fishperson faction mates QQ about how DDs have a hard knock life.
    most of this, take note the game calls it twilight temple, not holy hall of dusk. this is not PW MY, using its terms will only confuse alot of people.
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  • _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City
    _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Can I do it with a Supercharged Magmite, so I can pay for a herc?
    b:puzzled
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  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Can I do it with a Supercharged Magmite, so I can pay for a herc?
    b:puzzled

    Wiht supercharged Magmite, I meant the few venos that are dumb enough to put legendary skills on them (Bless, Strong etc.) the money those skills cost nearly buy you a Herc.
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    What will I need to solo hh runs?
    a herc and a brain
    sorry, couldnt stay away... lots of threads about this but nobody read them
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    What will I need to solo hh runs?

    In addition to the above, a toothpick to wedge in keyboard or a steady patient enduring finger.
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  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    In addition to the above, a toothpick to wedge in keyboard or a steady patient enduring finger.

    Don't risk damaging/shortcircuiting the chips inside your keyboard with coins or toothpicks, fold a stickynote in half, push down the key and stick the corner inbetween the key and edge slightly.
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  • _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City
    _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So, I can do it with a basic Magmite my level?

    I am also haveing problems keeping my Magmite my level with the quests that give me water/air mobs.

    BH dose not help also.

    Dose there happen to be a list were I can find mobs my pets level So I can make it to HH runs?
    Looking for cords also.
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  • Illusiva - Heavens Tear
    Illusiva - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I am also haveing problems keeping my Magmite my level with the quests that give me water/air mobs.
    Dose there happen to be a list were I can find mobs my pets level So I can make it to HH runs?
    Looking for cords also.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi

    Just use the "Monsters" drop down list to find one your pets level to grind on.

    BH dose not help also.

    There's really no point in levelling so damn fast from BH's as a Venomancer. It does leave your pets behind as you are finding. Of course, at level 40+ you can always use the Cube's Mice Bashing room, but this can become costly if you're having a hard time rolling the right dice to get in there >_< and in the end it just takes away coin that you could be saving up for the Hercules instead. Especially if you have to do this every few levels to try and keep your pet up with you.

    This is why I do not use BH's for fast levelling... yes I still do them every day, but simply for the mass spirit. I do all available quests at my level and grind on mobs with good DQ drops for coins to pay for my next available skills and to ensure my pets levels are the same as my characters. The characters exp from the BH, grinding and questing goes into genies regularly. Once I'm happy with my pets levels (i.e. they are max exp at the same level as my character) if I'm also happy with my characters skill/coin/spirit setup, then and only then, will I let my character level from the BH exp.
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  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Leveling a pet on mobs or the cube room isn't that hard. When doing BHs it won't fall 10 levels behind or something. It's not worth losing nice EXP over tbh. By capping your own level, you're capping your pet level.
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  • Illusiva - Heavens Tear
    Illusiva - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Leveling a pet on mobs or the cube room isn't that hard.When doing BHs it won't fall 10 levels behind or something.

    I never said levelling pets in the cube was hard. I said it can become expensive if you do it all the time or have bad luck with the dice rolls (dice ticket costs, mirage costs, teleport ticket costs etc etc). Whereas levelling pets on mobs can become boring and tedious if you level too fast and the pet gets several levels behind. One pet may not fall behind 10 levels. But if you have more than 5 pets (assuming a half maxed to maxed pet bag where most pets in the bag have their specific uses such as luring or range luring, tanking, damage dealing or whatever) then yes, they absolutely can easily fall behind.
    It's not worth losing nice EXP over tbh. By capping your own level, you're capping your pet level.

    That "nice exp" is the reason that there are so many fails in every class type these days. People are far to eager to level up as fast as possible. I prefer to manage that "nice exp" and have a character and bag of pets that are the best they can be for their current level instead of levelling so fast that I end up with a high level character and a bunch of pets that can't prove their worth in a squad or solo because either the pets can't tank well enough due to gradually falling behind in level or because I can't afford to dish out coins for survivability and maxed skills due to BH's wine fees, Cube fees to try and catch up the pets, and trying to save for a Herc (and whatever else). It speaks volumes about fast levelling when you run FB's and BH's with others (the same level as me give or take a level or two) and when you get to the boss, out of a full squad the only ones left standing within 10 seconds of attacking the boss (AOE) are me, my Glacial Walker and some level 8x+ cleric who was helping with the FB/BH.

    As for the capping levels... A pet can't level higher than it's Veno under any circumstances regardless of whether I give exp to a genie or not so I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make there. If I max out my pets exp when my pet is at my current level, when I next level up, it takes just one mob to bring my pet back to my own level. How is that that not a good thing? Is a pet the same level as my character not better to have than the same pet several levels lower than my character?

    "Capping your level" suggests that someone isn't actively levelling at all. Which, in my case, is not true. I am levelling. I'm just not doing it ridiculously fast because I don't play this game to obtain an easy high level. I play to be the best I can be at EVERY level regardless of what that level is. In this game, gaining a high level fast doesn't equal a good character or a good player, most of the time it just equals someone who took the easy route and didn't learn their class in the process.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So, I can do it with a basic Magmite my level?

    Solo mode you can do with an own-level magmite (or walker, beetle, cub... just about any tanking pet will do.) Squad mode? Fuggedaboudit.
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  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    tl;dr


    So.. pretty much "I don't have money and I don't wanna grind to level my pets".

    You contradict yourself a lot. You say you level enough but don't wanna kill mobs to level pets. derp..?


    And by capping your level I meant denying yourself of BHs, thus EXP, thus levels, thus pet levels, since as you said they don't rise over your level.
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  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Why would you want to solo a Hell Hound?
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    axt57 wrote: »
    Why would you want to solo a Hell Hound?

    Or the Head Hunter?
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  • Illusiva - Heavens Tear
    Illusiva - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So.. pretty much "I don't have money and I don't wanna grind to level my pets".

    You contradict yourself a lot. You say you level enough but don't wanna kill mobs to level pets. derp..?


    And by capping your level I meant denying yourself of BHs, thus EXP, thus levels, thus pet levels, since as you said they don't rise over your level.

    From my first post:

    "This is why I do not use BH's for fast levelling... yes I still do them every day, but simply for the mass spirit. I do all available quests at my level and grind on mobs with good DQ drops for coins to pay for my next available skills and to ensure my pets levels are the same as my characters."

    Perhaps if you'd actually tried reading instead of arguing based on your own presumed bs, you'd get your facts straight. b:bye
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  • _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City
    _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I was able to catch my ground pet up by killing quest monsters. Even with doing dailys.
    What I did was feed my pet more food so it got 150% xp. <--- Yes I did not know this QQ

    Also with air mobs you can go to white sand beach and kill lvl 100 flying mobs called Staunch Worm 646 118.
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  • Araya_Souren - Sanctuary
    Araya_Souren - Sanctuary Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Uggh my veno is level 80 and it's a real pain. I have 2 land pets and they need like 3000xp to level and i can't imagine when i get higher..
    I want to ask how hard it is to keep golem alive in TT solo mode. I don't do TT's at all because of that drop distribution i feel i have more profitable ways to waste my time but since it's double drop i want to try this solo mode. Since i have a mechcrab i was wondering should i waste subs if there's a chance it won't work. So does golem tank bosses on the verge of death if so maybe i shouldn't try cause my mechcrab has less pdef and health?
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Solo mode is cake. Remember, the game expects BMs and Archers to be able to do solo mode.

    So yeah, a mechcrab should be fine.


    And.. at 80 I find my two main pets hit max xp within about 5% of my level, the remaining 95% is pretty much wasted on them (I send some of it to my less-used pets, but I'm not as good about it as I oughta be)
  • _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City
    _LeaderAlan_ - Lost City Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Is solo mode worth the drops?
    Time Vs Drops
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  • Hhlolz - Harshlands
    Hhlolz - Harshlands Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    The most important thing hasnt been named; PATIENCE
    Its boring as hell to press heal key for 30min all the time.
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  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    The most important thing hasnt been named; PATIENCE
    Its boring as hell to press heal key for 30min all the time.

    I completely agree with that. Patience is virtue, and 30 minutes is how long it takes me to solo astral walker. (That's not counting the time it took me to get to the boss and how long I had to wait for it to get in the right spot.) b:surrender
    >.<