No BH 'Till A Higher Level

Maddieson - Sanctuary
Maddieson - Sanctuary Posts: 220 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Suggestion Box
Before you flame bcause of te title, please read the entire post. Thanks.

Honestly, I don't see a reason for BH's to start at level 40 (or 50, I forget). When leveling with BH's, a person doesn't play their class on things their level, and doesn't understand what to do in a squad. Granted, this is only if a high level helps them. But, your leveling extremely fast, and it's causing you not to learn how to play your class right.

I've seen level 70 people not know what 'pull' means. Even some venos, who are meant to do it. Sad, isn't it? This is because high levels are speeding through their BH.

Crazy stone alone can easily level you 'till about 55-60. Trust me, I leveled from 32-50 just using crazy stone. I suffered because I didn't do quests, or bosses. Same thing applies, when you level that fast, your not getting quests done, leaving you to do lower level quests.

So, I'm simply requesting that BH's don't start 'till about level 60.
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    No I disagree, but it should be changed around. Instead of BH being daily. It should be a random drop (% depends on level) for a BH ticket instead.... I think I will suggest something like this b:cute
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    My alt hit 40, I was excited to be able to do a quest that would help me work as a DD in a squad, since I wasn't sure how.

    She's now mid-5x and I haven't yet done a BH without a high level. You don't learn anything at those levels. I agree.
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I can agree with you on this, Maddieson, because the moment I unlocked BH's, I forgot about quests and did them and CS's. Thanks to those I got from lvl 40-55 with ease. But I suffered majorly because of it. Right now I have quests from lvl 40 to this lvl, sitting, waiting to get picked out of the "Find Quest" list and be done.

    If they waited till lvl 60 (heck even 55 would do) to open the BH, it would save hundreds (maybe thousands) of players the suffering that happens when you do them at lower lvls.

    Add in the fact that the first ever BH (BH29) requires to you to go into an area that you can't solo until your lvl 60+ (for a charmed BM) and even then you still need a cleric to heal you for the boss because of his random mage attacks.

    So, i'll support you in this.
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    When leveling with BH's, a person doesn't play their class on things their level, and doesn't understand what to do in a squad.

    Hm... to go into a sort of hard dungeon with a squad (if u're the bh lvl)... OR mindlessly killing a certain mob over an over by yourself AKA questing...

    I'd say u learn in bhs more... I think it's nice they start at low lvl. The lower quests are annoying, take forever & you don't really learn anything new after killing 100 mobs already...

    How about u higher lvls STOP HELPING NOOBS on their bhs, then they will actually start learning...
    Add in the fact that the first ever BH (BH29) requires to you to go into an area that you can't solo until your lvl 60+ (for a charmed BM) and even then you still need a cleric to heal you for the boss because of his random mage attacks.

    Rofl... ? were u being sarcastic... That's the idea that YOU CAN"T SOLO IT, but need to start learning to work in squad if u want to lvl faster. If not, then u always have those quests to go bk to...
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I don't think high levels help as often as you think? I can't imagine why someone who could roll through the dungeon would actually WANT to do it (3 times anyways). The only time a high level has helped has been when it was one of the lower level's alts and they were done with their chain, and on bh29 because it's so easy. Other than that I think it's actually a pretty good way to learn how to play your class if you're doing it with people of the proper level. Easier than learning when you play completely alone... and you still learn as much when you play alone (grinding, questing) as you do when you have high levels help on a bh... so I don't think it's harming anyone.
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  • Lauralanna - Heavens Tear
    Lauralanna - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I think it's actually a pretty good way to learn how to play your class if you're doing it with people of the proper level. Easier than learning when you play completely alone... and you still learn as much when you play alone (grinding, questing) as you do when you have high levels help on a bh... so I don't think it's harming anyone.

    On the surface, this makes sense. Until you take into account the fact that people go into shock when you mention the word "unwined". So all the things they could be learning are taken away along with the mobs.
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lauralanna - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    On the surface, this makes sense. Until you take into account the fact that people go into shock when you mention the word "unwined". So all the things they could be learning are taken away along with the mobs.

    I got a bunch of characters & if we talking about lower lvl bhs I NEVER did one with a squad wined. +59 ones yeah, but not below. So if SOME ppl are actually wining it... lol w/e it's the same ppl that are nagging the high lvls to help with bhs.

    You would be better of complaining about CS, which does start at early lvls & teaches u nothing ._. yet gives a lot of exp at those lvls...
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't think high levels help as often as you think? I can't imagine why someone who could roll through the dungeon would actually WANT to do it (3 times anyways). The only time a high level has helped has been when it was one of the lower level's alts and they were done with their chain, and on bh29 because it's so easy. Other than that I think it's actually a pretty good way to learn how to play your class if you're doing it with people of the proper level. Easier than learning when you play completely alone... and you still learn as much when you play alone (grinding, questing) as you do when you have high levels help on a bh... so I don't think it's harming anyone.

    Maybe it's just my server then, but I've always had a higher level pulled in on BH29s and 39s from other people.
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  • Maddieson - Sanctuary
    Maddieson - Sanctuary Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You would be better of complaining about CS, which does start at early lvls & teaches u nothing ._. yet gives a lot of exp at those lvls...

    CS uses coin, and gives less exp. So, when using CS, it teaches you about shards or whatever. And since it gives less exp, your going to do quests.
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Maddieson - Sanctuary wrote: »
    CS uses coin, and gives less exp. So, when using CS, it teaches you about shards or whatever. And since it gives less exp, your going to do quests.

    Rofl? At the lvl CS starts it gives about half lvl...
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Not to mention the only thing I'm learning from crazy stone is how many shabby stones it takes for me to make the level of stone required, which is next to useless because that method is almost always more expensive than just buying the grade of stone you want.
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  • Skimi - Dreamweaver
    Skimi - Dreamweaver Posts: 333 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    well if you don't do bhs then even at lvl 60 you will be squadding so less that you still won't know what to do. and for bh29....i had many ppl leave my squad because i don't have high lvl tank who can solo it and what not. also i have seen people looking for bh29 squad almost everywere except arch, it is much easier to get squad in SP or at other side of map than arch, that is why so many high levels are helping. there will always be someone in squad who don't know what to do and to lazy to learn and will just ask their guild for someone to come help. i for one find it really painfull to find squad for that bh so i don't mind helping others with that bh too. when i was in lvl 40ish then i with one person, who also had lvl 40ish char, just made a deal, he on alt do my bhs and i will do his bhs with my alt. much faster and much safer.
  • Vorhs - Lost City
    Vorhs - Lost City Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i totally agree: game is well experience-balanced untile lvl 60 without any use of BH, i remember that i started grinding and getting bored after i hit 60... 60 should be the lower cap for this daily
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