TT squad mode guide with herc

Krouse - Harshlands
Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Venomancer
So here i start my journey of doing TT squad mode ( high boss mode ) solo with my herc.

I will post the bare minimum here of what my build was when i did the boss. So that everyone can have a clear view of what is possible at what level. I will tell a little over my journeys in replies to the original post :)

If you think this guide helps you feel free to let a GM know to sticky this one. If not just let it die to the depths :P


TT 1-1 medium, squad mode, no subs required.
Required level for opening: 60
Materials from chests: Pieces of skeleton.

It opened up and i started killing mobs, which wasn't that bad. Till the first gaurdian boss the mobs dropped in 10 minutes.

The gaurdian boss was dead before i sneezed at him because of the no damage reduction from the herc. nuff said

Level/build: Veno level 60, Herc level 60 :
Build link: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9729b0565d03e8ca
Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssFKbSHqx2I


Chintien : Chronol,
What material does he drop: Chintien edge

He scared me a couple of time because the timing of the healing wasn't exactly after each of his hit. But the herc stood up very well and survived all he got thrown at.

Level/build: Veno level 60, Herc level 60 :
Build link: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9729b0565d03e8ca
Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2Rzp7nNTg


Soulbanisher : Chronol,
What material does he drop: nothing

No matter what i tried i could not sneak past him and not aggro the mobs behind him. He could also drop som nasty double damages which made my herc go to 25% HP. But in the end spamming pet heal was enough to keep the herc alive.

Level/build: Veno level 60, Herc level 60 :
Build link: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9729b0565d03e8ca
Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrHZIXPE_pw


Vipenalt : Chronol,
What material does he drop: nothing

I was more confident of what i could handle. He actually doesn't hit as hard as chintien or soulbanisher. So i could sneak in an attack or two ( ironwood scarab ) to increase the damage output on him. This was a quick death for Vipenalt.

Level/build: Veno level 60, Herc level 60 :
Build link: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9729b0565d03e8ca
Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcwJ_lUU4FA


Lord of percussion : Chronol
What material does he drop: Broken drum,

I Finally made it to kill him, It was a pain in the ... to do, but after 18 deaths i finally got it to work. I know now that you need at LEAST -12% channeling, and that you need to time some heals in order to survive the double clap. You also need a HP charm because he can hit for 2K easy with his aoe in the end, and every 8 seconds it's hard to keep it up with HP pots ( unless you got jolly jones HP pots ). I needed to switch out my ornaments once he started AOE'ing, so that i woudl have more PDEF.

Level/build: Veno level 63, Herc level 62 :
(Build link will follow ASAP)
Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQO7NgHRCtQ


TT 1-2 high, squad mode, 1 sub required
Required level for opening: 68
Materials from chests: Pieces of skeleton, Mysterious Skulls.

Chintien: Dimensic,
What material does he drop: Chintien's armour shard

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)


Lord of Percussion: Dimensic,
What material does he drop: Framework of drum

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)


Soulbanisher: Dimensic,
What material does he drop: Soulgatherer's tentacle

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)


Dimentora: Dimensic,
What material does he drop: Broken shard of gold armour

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)


Vipenalt: Dimensic,
What material does he drop: Ancient serpent skin

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)



TT 1-3 high, squad mode, 1 sub required
Required level for opening: 78
Materials from chests: Mysterious Skulls, Klunky sword


Chintien: Substancia,
What material does he drop: Chin's Plate

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)


Lord of Percussion: Substancia,
What material does he drop: War drum

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)

Soulbanisher: Substancia,
What material does he drop: soulgatherer's mirror

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)


Shooting Aur: Substancia,
What material does he drop: tough shard of golden armour
Material gold drop: Golden spirit

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)

Vipenalt: Substancia,
What material does he drop: Ancient serpent blood
Material gold drop: Ancient serpents orb

Level/build: Veno level ?, Herc level ? :
(Build link will follow as soon as i killed him)
(Video link will follow as soon as i killed him)
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  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    There are plenty of TT guides already, even for solo venos.

    However, if you end up adding video link to it that would make yours different. I dont remember ever seeing a veno TT solo guide with videos.

    I hope you do add videos :)
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  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    If those were good guides they might have been stickied :P.

    I can see so many questions about herc and TT solo in his forum, that's why i decided to make this guide. Also because most veno's don't know what they need for gear and what is the lowest possible level for certain TT bosses.

    Like now i discovered that drumboss is just not doable alone, even with decent gear at 60. Noone actually answered that in other guides. If i had access to more different gear to decrease my channeling more then i might be able to do him at level 60. My -6 channeling gear is for level 62 so i will have to wait till that. also i need to find at least another -3% channeling ring to complete that idea. -6 channeling rings are just too expensive to invest in at that level just for TT 1-1 that you probably can do at 63 with the new pet heal.

    I will add video links this weekend. I wanted to record the full run but in the middle of Chintien the free fraps program crashed on me and i barely made it to heal my herc up enough again lol.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Why robe of the tamer instead of 60 arcane and do you really need those leggings?My stats are different than yours and I do have a herc.I made this thread asking about Venos and TT.

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=633531
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  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I haven't found a good level 60 robe yet. And the mold gear i picked up for 400K total. Which in this case was easy to do to get some defences up. Actually the gear you have on ( except the weapon ) is rather obsolete except for drumboss. You do not take any hits so why have the best gear on if you are gonna outlevel it in a week, and don't even "use" it in TT runs.

    Once i see a good pair of 60 arcane robe with good addons i will put that into the calculator.

    What different stats do you have? i made the mistake of adding 5 dex at some point, so i have 10 dex instead of 5. I will restat that out this weekend with a small restat note to give me even more magic attack. I am a vit arcane build, adding 1 vit each level. In two levels i added 2 vit, 1 str and 7 magic


    First run drops were, 5 Chintien's edges, 22 pieces of skeleton and 2 mirages. The snake doesn't drop anything, but is needed for the TT60 quest.

    So i spend 68K on a sub ( yes i am lazy ), but he didn't take it out of my invent after i opened the TT (????) and got back approx 350K of drops. So the profit was 350K for level 60 in 1~1.25 hour that's not bad at all. once you can kill drumboss the profit goes up to alot more. with two drums drop you wil have 300K extra profit, making it to 582K in 1 hour. also because snake doesn't drop anything you can skip soulbanisher and snake boss for very quick TT 1-1 squad mode runs. I think you can make it within 45 minutes if you don't need to do these for quests
  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Added my first video.

    I recorded with Wegame but the quality is really horrible. If anyone has any suggestion on free recording software that gives at least a bit of decent quality let me know. Will be happy to run it again just to get a better quality vid in.

    I will edit the other bosses tomorrow and add the youtube links for those too. I just added Vipenalt : Chronol

    any suggestions on the guis? let me know :)
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Here are my stats as of present don't plan on restating.

    venostats.jpg
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  • sweetpotatoe
    sweetpotatoe Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Krouse - Harshlands wrote: »
    At that point i called in my girlfriend ( 85 cleric ) to come buff me up to receive more magic attack. I tried 4 times after that and finally i gave up. I could see that at 60 ( without extreme godly gear ) you cannot solo drum boss just yet, but i'm confident i can do him with just a little more channeling gear, and maybe even wait till i get my new pet heal.

    You should ask your girlfriend to RB red bubble you next time. It gives you -20% channeling and +100% weapon damage. Do this while you're getting drummer down to 50% hp to keep up with the damage. Once he goes below 50% hp, he stops his magic attack and switches to physical aoe and you should have no problem healing the herc without RB. Ask your girlfriend to move back out of range and ironheart you as required, there should be no need for BB unless you get one shotted. I'm LA and have no problem with the aoe in foxform, but if you're pure arcane with low vit then you might need BB.

    Good job so far with the guide btw.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    sweetpotatoe wrote: »
    Once he goes below 50% hp, he stops his magic attack and switches to physical aoe and you should have no problem healing the herc without RB. Ask your girlfriend to move back out of range and ironheart you as required, there should be no need for BB unless you get one shotted. I'm LA and have no problem with the aoe in foxform, but if you're pure arcane with low vit then you might need BB.

    Good job so far with the guide btw.

    Not all arcanes gimp their atk for vit, nor is it necessary. Fox multiples on pdef, pdef is cheaper than HP, pdef reduces hp recovery costs and needs. Barbs benefit from high HP, arcane venos from pdef.
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  • sweetpotatoe
    sweetpotatoe Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Not all arcanes gimp their atk for vit, nor is it necessary. Fox multiples on pdef, pdef is cheaper than HP, pdef reduces hp recovery costs and needs. Barbs benefit from high HP, arcane venos from pdef.

    I said if you're pure arcane with low vit, then you MIGHT need BB. I didn't say all pure arcanes with low vit will need BB. Besides, at lvl 60, I don't think many pure arcane venos have high pdef.
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    lol at lvl 60 people dont have much of anything and i'd kinda cringe if anyone did seriously invest a lot into gear at that point. I'd like to see this guide develop seems pretty interesting and it wont be all text it'll have some audio visual themes to it.
  • sweetpotatoe
    sweetpotatoe Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    That might be a good idea to let her RB next time. I will try that today or tomorrow whenever i can do it again. I'm glad i don't have to run the full TT bosses again to get to drum :P

    at 63 i will attempt TT 1-2 and by that time i want a better recording software to give me better quality of video.

    You can see my build in the links, and i don't think i will get one shotted by the AOE seeing as i got over 2K pdef and almost 3K hp in foxform.
  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Some highlights for you, from memory

    TT 1.x
    Drummer in 1.1 use HP pots, and doable @63 (newest Pet heal)

    Drummer in 1.2 Hp Pots, and not before 73

    Forget about Soulbanisher in 1.2 and 1.3 (SB in 1.2 with high HP, and High pet heals should be doable after 83)

    Forget about drummer in 1.3

    Other bosses at the level you open the TT , or the next pet heal

    TT2.x
    Fataliqua ,done at the level you open the TT , or next Level heal (somtimes in 2.2 and 2.3 he does crits that can kill herc)

    Feng 2.1 at the level with pots
    Feng 2.2 and 2.3 forget about him (2.2 doable @93+)

    Wurlord = never

    Cosmo @ level in 2.1
    Dont try it @ 2.2 nor 2.3 (2.2 easy daoble with 2 venos purging)

    Soulripper and Astralwaker no problem (Needs mana pots and learn to position yourself for Astral)

    TT 3.x
    3.1 all bosses at the level

    3.2 and 3.3 only the Mid mode bosses
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  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Thnx for the info. I think for the purpose of the guide i will do it fully solo and record that, instead of asking other people to RB/BB and second veno.

    I know for a fact that you can do drummer in 1-3 at 93. A friend of mine did it with worse gear then i got waiting for me.

    i'll keep your info in thought for doing it at the levels you suggest. I will try to do other bosses as well. Just to see if we can do it differently then just holding down the key and spam heal herc.
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    For what it's worth - I tanked TT12 soul banisher today. I've got the 83 heal (and boy does chainhealing with that suck down the mana. I feel like a cleric!)
    18% channel was probably overkill, 12% would probably be fine. I'd not like to try it with less than that though.

    It was a bit close a few times until he started the AOE - and then the tanking part got a lot easier.
    I'd REALLY not want to do it without a cleric there though - even with bubble the AOE reached up to 2k at the end.

    At this level 12 drummer, I have enough time to leech. So his aoe would only be a problem - even solo - right at the end.
  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    due to not finding a decent recording software up till this point i can either do two things. I can record 5 pieces of each boss with the free version of FRAPS and edit them together. Or i can keep on looking for another piece of software. At this point i will start using the free FRAPS as i will hit 63 tomorrow and will record a new TT 1-1 run except the non drop bosses. I feel these are a waste of time if i will do them again just to get a better picture quality.

    Will be editing the movies before the weekend and will upload them accordingly :)
  • Lythiaana - Dreamweaver
    Lythiaana - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Krouse - Harshlands wrote: »
    due to not finding a decent recording software up till this point i can either do two things. I can record 5 pieces of each boss with the free version of FRAPS and edit them together. Or i can keep on looking for another piece of software. At this point i will start using the free FRAPS as i will hit 63 tomorrow and will record a new TT 1-1 run except the non drop bosses. I feel these are a waste of time if i will do them again just to get a better picture quality.

    Will be editing the movies before the weekend and will upload them accordingly :)

    Looking forward to your videos. I'm trying my best to get all the resources I can to better my knowledge of soloing squad mode with a herc. I have yet to find time to try out squad 1-2
  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I hit level 63, my herc level 62 and i went in to do TT 1-1 drumm boss as well. I could do Chientin easy even with some extra attacks in between because of the better heal.

    I went in fully cleric buffed so i have 3676 mag att max, 2.5K pdef and 3K HP. I died 18 times before i got him done............... But i did it!

    Important notice!!

    I do NOT advice doing Drum boss at 63, it's a charm **** and not easy to do. i suggest you wait till level 70 because of the way better Pdef and HP you can reach. Also a better wep will make it easier to maintain constant good heals, my herc dropped to under 100 HP on one or two occassions :O.

    I also needed -12% channeling to even remotely get close to full heal my herc before he double claps again. I switched out the channel belt and neck once he started to AOE, because i needed the better pdef. Also i used relentless courage ( - channeling genie skill in case my heals went out of sync, and that happened more often then you would like to know. In the end i know i can do him easily with a level or two ( better mag attack, better pdef ornaments, better HP. )
  • Krouse - Harshlands
    Krouse - Harshlands Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Added full TT 1-1 vids, including Lord of percussion

    Also bump for sticky? ^^

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