Genie Skills

Mitties - Dreamweaver
Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Venomancer
Alright, I'm trying to decide what skills to give my Infliction genie. I already have Blinding Sand and Tangling Mire, to aid my pet or barb friend. What other two skills should I get? I'm considering Second Wind for healing, and it works perfectly with my genie's high strength. I was looking at Leaf Dance, but ... is it really worth it, just for an extra 2% crit chance? And how long does Extreme Poison last at level 35, almost 40?

I forgot to mention, this is PVE only.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    b:sweat You're using a 35/40 LP genie for Blinding Sand and Tangling Mire?

    Don't have any numbers on EP (mine is just maxed) but is Dex based. It's a must for Venos although i'm not sure how convenient it would be too skill on a Str based genie. Second Wind is the way to go.

    http://www.ecatomb.net/genieskill.php Look for Str based skills here...
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    No no no, I meant, levels 35, almost 40. ^_^U

    My bad.
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  • Lythiaana - Dreamweaver
    Lythiaana - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I think tangling mire and second wind are good choices for your str genie. It's hard to say for extreme poison, just because it is more dex based. Don't forget holy path though. It's useful in nifty situations
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Tangling Mire is near useless you're able to AoE grind or running RB or FF. Might come in handy for TW, but i think you might want to use the energy on skills like Mantle Ripple of Death instead.

    Leaf Dance is not the best skill for Venos at low-mid levels.

    And it's ok on LP, OP. For all i knew you a had a rocking strategy.b:thanks
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Isn't Mantle Ripple of Death more PVP?
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lol, yeah, i was commenting on TW.
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, but I'm not doing TW.
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  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Bump

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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    these are the skills i have for my dex based genie
    earthquake for if a mob gets to close
    extreme poison for when i use amplify damage
    holy path to get out of stick situations or to save someones but
    ToP a friend told me to put this on sense im going dex based
    & if im lucky enough to be able to get a 5th skill slot im thinking of puting wind shield i believe its called
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  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hmmm. Why Wind Shield?

    Yeah, EP and ToP are basically useless to me, me being str based......
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  • Lythiaana - Dreamweaver
    Lythiaana - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Is this genie going to be for you veno? If it's str based, I don't think second wind is a bad option. Good heal for casters at the very least in tight situations
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Okay, I have nabbed Second Wind, and I absolutely love it. With 30 points in STR, it heals over half my HP. Combined with Soul Transfusion ... I shall never pot again. *.*

    Now I just need to figure out a 4th skill. I hear Earthquake is good for PvE? Why is this? In case I get mobbed and need some breathing room?
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mitties - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Okay, I have nabbed Second Wind, and I absolutely love it. With 30 points in STR, it heals over half my HP. Combined with Soul Transfusion ... I shall never pot again. *.*

    Now I just need to figure out a 4th skill. I hear Earthquake is good for PvE? Why is this? In case I get mobbed and need some breathing room?

    It does that, but mainly it's an interrupt. 100% chance at level 10.
    Stupidly expensive on chi-stones, but an interrupt is an interrupt.
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So, are you saying you would recommend Earthquake, or against it? Or is there another skill you would recommend?
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mitties - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So, are you saying you would recommend Earthquake, or against it? Or is there another skill you would recommend?

    Get earthquake, it is the only 100% change of interrupt skill you will get..... Since, as a class, we do not get a single interrup skill. Very useful for boss fighting.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Get earthquake, it is the only 100% change of interrupt skill you will get..... Since, as a class, we do not get a single interrup skill. Very useful for boss fighting.

    But isn't it centered around yourself? So wouldn't you have to be right up close to the boss for it to be useful?

    Also, I have a question about Holy Path. "Increases the movement speed of yourself to the max for 3.9 seconds." What exactly does that mean?

    I'm beginning to get the feeling this game was badly translated.....
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mitties - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    But isn't it centered around yourself? So wouldn't you have to be right up close to the boss for it to be useful?

    Also, I have a question about Holy Path. "Increases the movement speed of yourself to the max for 3.9 seconds." What exactly does that mean?

    I'm beginning to get the feeling this game was badly translated.....

    Yes, it has only a range of 10 meters around yourself, so you will have to be pretty darn close to the boss. However, it is the only 100% interrupt skill we can get as venos, that is why I would recommend it.

    Holy path makes your character run at 15m/s for x.x amount of seconds. That is the maximun speed.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yes, you need to be up close.
    But then, if you interrupt successfully, it doesn't matter that you're up close and in aoe range - you just interrupted the aoe.

    Failure would be bad, though :)


    The other one is Lightning Chaser. Which has a better range, but isn't a dead-certain interrupt any more.
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    On the other paw (as it were), if I were up so close to the boss I would probably be in fox form, casting Amp, Befuddlign Mist, and Leech, so I guess it's a moot point. =p
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The other one is Lightning Chaser. Which has a better range, but isn't a dead-certain interrupt any more.

    If you were to get 100 dex points on your genie I think you would get 100% interrupt with lighting chaser.....
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yes, but once again, I feel the need to point out the fact that my genie is a STR-based genie. Not DEX. STR.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mitties - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yes, but once again, I feel the need to point out the fact that my genie is a STR-based genie. Not DEX. STR.

    it does not matter.....

    earthquake chance increases with SKILL LEVEL, not with dexterity. Dex only increases the damage the skill does, which is irrelevant for what we would be using the skill for.

    Another advantage to using earthquake is that is has a knockback feature, yet one more thing, we as venos do not have in our skills.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Sorry, I was responding to your point on Lightning Chaser. =p
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  • Lythiaana - Dreamweaver
    Lythiaana - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lightning Chaser is not that bad. If you have a high DEX genie, the % of success would be pretty high. Although, 100% beats all with earthquake. I like to play it safe with chaser because of the 25 meter range. b:victory
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mmmm, yes, but again, my genie will never have more than 5 DEX, so that is useless to me. =p
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  • Lythiaana - Dreamweaver
    Lythiaana - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mitties - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Mmmm, yes, but again, my genie will never have more than 5 DEX, so that is useless to me. =p


    In that case, definitely go for the earthquake. I personally have a dex genie so the % rate is higher for mine. I just like Chaser better due to the play-it-safe and the fact you can use it on air and water.....although hardly likely compared to using it on the ground for bosses in TT
  • Mitties - Dreamweaver
    Mitties - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I see. Thanks for the tip.
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