I need advice on guild leader demanding money...

The title is all I needed to see. In my opinion, any guild whose leader demands money from its members is not worth being in, regardless of the reason.

actually, if anything, YOU should be getting money. heck, my faction pays me 3-5mil a week. lol

All good posts here. Airyll I agree 100% with what you said. I don't see it as flaming in any way. As a faction leader of a strong level 3 faction I did have to request member donations for help to get us to level 3. We were growing incredibly fast and all active members. Another faction wanted to merge into us and we simply didn't have room after clearing out any and all inactives. All of our members pitched in, with me making the largest 6m to the pot, but it still was a necessity for us to ask of our members for the help. Overall, it was well worth it and most of those members are still with us and a part of a great family.

That being said, a faction leader has the primary resources for the faction and should put himself second behind his/her faction. I quite often live broke w/ some member donating to me and the faction in order for us to participate in TW and host other great events and such within the faction. Asking for donations is sometimes a necessity, but for the most part we are large enough now where it's not necessary. Overall, the problem is too many people start to play and stop by the time they hit level 30-40. They join a faction or want to be a leader, with little knowledge as what to expect from being in a faction. Any faction that offers someone with zero experience an officers position is going to fall into the dead catagory. They will recruit anyone that comes along and those people will jump ship just as quickly, or they will simply become inactive because they aren't getting anything from the game. Mostly due to the fact the faction they were in was led by more inexperienced players than themselves.

Reality is, do your research on the faction you are considering and make sure it's a solid place to be. If you aren't happy for whatever reasons. Don't stick around. Let the obvious warning signs be just that and cut your losses. A faction leader saying "we need 10m for lvl 3, your donations are appreciated" is likely something you will hear a lot from smaller unestablished factions. Sometimes those factions grow to become like Equinox or Calamity (I know for fact Equinox had to ask for donations to go to lvl 3 as i was a contributor), other times warning signs will show you that the faction just isn't worth it.

If you are on the Dreamweaver server, feel free to give myself or any of my officers a hollar. (Though we tend to recruit 70+ at this point in time)

sinead777 wrote: »

My eyes are nearly bleeding reading the last post there, though I see you have 1 person who agrees 100% with you... has this gone off topic?

I asked for advice on this not a lecture and not insinuations that I may be possibly lying. All I asked was what everyone thought of a guild leader demanding money off me. I was also TOLD to farm for mats to extend the bank and I was offered account details to be the banker!! I do not want someone else's account I think it is against PWI rules...

So I would appreciate if people do not go off topic but I got my answer and that is all I needed so thank you very much for that. I do apologize for offending anyone but that was not my intention. I merely asked for advice that's all. I did not realise I would get 1 very angry reaction.

LOL!!!

The fact that you think we've gone off topic when we're actually discussing the validity of your original post says everything.

Also, the fact you PM me calling me Lucinda when I've never heard of this person and haven't a clue who they are further solidifies my idea that.... you're just plain *removed* stupid.

I feel very sorry for that leader of the faction at this point, having to deal with a nutcase like you.

DragonPyre - Raging Tide wrote: »

Ignore Airyll, (s)he's a common troll here. All their posts are pretty much attacks to other posters.
Must be a superiority complex.

With that said, just leave guilds which you're not happy to be part of.

1. She

2. You've obviously not read all my posts then, have you?

Good day.

No airyll wasn't flaming you in the slightest she may have called you a few names but that can hardly constitute the word flaming.


She wasn't saying your lying there are just discrepancies in your post pointing out that what you said the guild leader said was he wanted donations if you could. And you said he demanded donations. Granted there would be more to it more then likely with what he said but Airyll was commenting on what you had said that he said. Get it?


Factions should first look at how happy their members are if you don't have a member base don't bother going up to 3 its a waste of time because you cannot delete the faction after 3. I would say if you did not want to be an officer you should have stepped down and became a member before leaving if you did want to be an officer then you should have helped the faction core grow. Happy guild members means a productive guild. Events are crucial the feeling of at home is what you want to have one that everyone fits into. If you get new members make extra sure they are comfortable. Like you would with a new puppy slowly you can just let it do its own thing but the first few weeks are crucial to determining if they are going to stay or not and become your core.

He had every right to ask you for money its not the faction leaders job to keep the faction afloat its the guilds job. The faction leader is what you call a catalyst he makes sure it happens you guys just make it happen.

SinCityChick - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That depends on whether the faction is active enough to warrant asking for donations to level it up. If most of the people that are active are officers of some sort, then they should be concentrating more on recruiting new members, not increasing the size of a (pretty much) dead faction.

Thats uh what I said................

Guild leader myself here... previously director of said faction (prev. leader is a RL friend of mine). Can honestly say we've never demanded anything from faction. I actually don't recall how we made it to lv2 (Did I donate, or did Ash give everything? He did have cash at some point soooooo...) but for lv3, we were asking for donations. I ended up giving around the 5mil myself, while the rest came from donations.

And now, based on own experience, if you're promoted without consent... have a talk with your leader.

Back story: Couple higher-leveled faction members and I were majorly bored. Rolled alts on the elven side. Realized it was fun to just run around and killing everything together (which we never did much past FBs, ranging from low 60's to 80+) and made plans to log on these more. So we joined another, low-leveled faction for the lulz, with a mindset of "hey, we can probably help people a bit too."

We're chatting a bit with the leader, and eventually come to say (big mistake IMO) that we're alts, and our main characters are in the same faction.

We get insta-promoted.

So they're willing to promote just everyone who have high-level chars, and not people they actually trust? "We'll see about that..." I resigned after promptly apologizing, and explaining as to why I don't want extra responsabilities. I'm just an alt anyways, nothing too serious. Leader's all like "Okay, sure, doesn't matter, just be active and all". Which we agreed to, at that point we were going to be active...

If it had stopped there, I might actually have a decently leveled archer by now.

Leader PMs me since I have a 80+ BM - he was a 75 barb. I offer the help I can, and thought it was gonna be it. But he starts asking about price checks, repeatidly, despite saying I don't know prices much. Well I seriously don't...

My squad logs off - I log off too.

Leader PMs me on my main char with more PC requests. /Facepalm

Never touched the alt again. He's currently meditating for deletion.