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Am I the only one that thinks that adding a new pvp server would b stupid? I mean, jus think about it...0
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Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »Harshlands may be not so active, but it's not like the PvE servers are full of activity either.
Like seriously, I play on Raging Tide, and I can garuntee you there's plenty of space there.
If your point is "you don't need a new PvP server because Harshlands isn't very active" then we don't need a new PvE server either because Raging Tide isn't very active.
There are definetly plenty of reasons why a new server is coming up, and ppl seem to miss the fact why it is on West Coast and not East Coast. Harshlands has a good activity, just not as much as Lost City which seems to be really full but HL is also like "100 years" from being full.(\__/)
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »1) And so what?
2) That just means that PvE is more popular
3) Yes and it was "popular demand" that brought the Anni Packs back multiple times. Do you see what I just did there?
4) GMs don't make new servers.
5) Subjective
6) Subjective
7) Explain your reasoning with that. PvE is clearly more popular. More popular -> More people -> More cash shoppers.
8) Yes, just like with Raging Tide, am I right?
9) It's a business, not a community service.
10) Eh?
11) Ok, so you gave up
12) Again, you gave up
In truth, you just want a shot at being at the top because you cannot do it on the current servers because you either are not a cash shopper or a merchanter or a really dedicated player. Sucks to be you, I guess.
No not really.
It doesnt mean PvE is more popular, ppl are just carebears so they join pve.0 -
LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »There are definetly plenty of reasons why a new server is coming up, and ppl seem to miss the fact why it is on West Coast and not East Coast. Harshlands has a good activity, just not as much as Lost City which seems to be really full but HL is also like "100 years" from being full.
Meh Harshlands fails >.<0 -
Airyl, I miss your posts.
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Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Meh Harshlands fails >.<
come to LC then, why spread out the pvp people between 3 servers when harshlands already failes due to so little population? It would just make HL and LC worse than they already are.0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Meh Harshlands fails >.<
What makes you think a new pvp server wouldnt fail?0 -
Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »come to LC then, why spread out the pvp people between 3 servers when harshlands already failes due to so little population? It would just make HL and LC worse than they already are.
I will sooner or later.0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »No not really.
It doesnt mean PvE is more popular, ppl are just carebears so they join pve.
What you just said is exactly what I said, except with a different subtext. You're hateful towards the PvE players, because you enjoy PvP. For what reasons, I don't want to talk about, that is private.
What we said is effectively the same, but what I said is going to be taken seriously, whereas what you said will be supported by those alike to yourself, PvP players hateful towards PvE players, whereas I will be supported by PvP players and PvE players alike, as long as they agree with the other things I say. So, effectively, I get support for being correct, you get support for being part of a group.
Now, I wonder, which one of us gets more support?If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »come to LC then, why spread out the pvp people between 3 servers when harshlands already failes due to so little population? It would just make HL and LC worse than they already are.
^ this, and I dont c how HL fails -.-(\__/)
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Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »What makes you think a new pvp server wouldnt fail?
Idk, but its worth trying ^^0 -
Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »What you just said is exactly what I said, except with a different subtext. You're hateful towards the PvE players, because you enjoy PvP. For what reasons, I don't want to talk about, that is private.
What we said is effectively the same, but what I said is going to be taken seriously, whereas what you said will be supported by those alike to yourself, PvP players hateful towards PvE players, whereas I will be supported by PvP players and PvE players alike, as long as they agree with the other things I say. So, effectively, I get support for being correct, you get support for being part of a group.
Now, I wonder, which one of us gets more support?
Agreed. You do.0 -
LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »^ this, and I dont c how HL fails -.-
Im just goign off what I read, what I see is HL is far less active than LC. If thats true, LC is pretty pathetic for a pvp server, so if HL has less than LC, Id consider it fail :P0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Meh Harshlands fails >.<
Then reroll on LC and away you go.
You've already hit 90 on a PvP server, so it's not like you're achieving anything new there whether you reroll on LC or the never-going-to-happen-just-because-you-want-it-to new PvP server.
Better yet, hit up a PvE server and go PK mode and 30, and never turn it off. All the benefits of a PvP server with the only difference is most people you're level aren't in PK mode, but everybody else who can and will one-shot you is.
Seriously. A new PvP server would achieve nothing. If Harshlands fails, the new one would even more so, because it would become a replica of Harshlands and nothing more. The same people who own on LC and/or HL would do what the major players I know on DW did when RT came out.
Jump servers. Cash shop. Own the server. Cause massive QQ. Everybody ragequits back to the old server. Life still sucks.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Idk, but its worth trying ^^
I hav heard alot of ppl say how HL fails and weird thing is that I pvp more then most of this ppl and I think HL is a fun server to play in... If HL keeps getting more and more ppl like you it will never grow in numbers, cuz every1 will say HL fails and they want a new pvp server.0 -
Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »Then reroll on LC and away you go.
You've already hit 90 on a PvP server, so it's not like you're achieving anything new there whether you reroll on LC or the never-going-to-happen-just-because-you-want-it-to new PvP server.
Better yet, hit up a PvE server and go PK mode and 30, and never turn it off. All the benefits of a PvP server with the only difference is most people you're level aren't in PK mode, but everybody else who can and will one-shot you is.
Seriously. A new PvP server would achieve nothing. If Harshlands fails, the new one would even more so, because it would become a replica of Harshlands and nothing more. The same people who own on LC and/or HL would do what the major players I know on DW did when RT came out.
Jump servers. Cash shop. Own the server. Cause massive QQ. Everybody ragequits back to the old server. Life still sucks.
Lmao. I love your replies dammit.
I wish I could. But I cant really join a pve server. I know that you can still PK, but its different. Like, when Im farming mats, how can I put blue names to sleep to steal their mats? QQ
90% of ppl dont pk on a pve server and if they do, they dont drop =/
I love getting 30 Gold fly mounts and all that
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Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »Then reroll on LC and away you go.
You've already hit 90 on a PvP server, so it's not like you're achieving anything new there whether you reroll on LC or the never-going-to-happen-just-because-you-want-it-to new PvP server.
Better yet, hit up a PvE server and go PK mode and 30, and never turn it off. All the benefits of a PvP server with the only difference is most people you're level aren't in PK mode, but everybody else who can and will one-shot you is.
Seriously. A new PvP server would achieve nothing. If Harshlands fails, the new one would even more so, because it would become a replica of Harshlands and nothing more. The same people who own on LC and/or HL would do what the major players I know on DW did when RT came out.
Jump servers. Cash shop. Own the server. Cause massive QQ. Everybody ragequits back to the old server. Life still sucks.
+1, but alot of ppl dont seem to realize that.0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Lmao. I love your replies dammit.
I wish I could. But I cant really join a pve server. I know that you can still PK, but its different. Like, when Im farming mats, how can I put blue names to sleep to steal their mats? QQ
90% of ppl dont pk on a pve server and if they do, they dont drop =/
I love getting 30 Gold fly mounts and all that
Glad to know I amuse you as much as your apparent idiocy regarding this issue amuses me.
If you don't want to reroll onto a PvE server and just go white name at 30 and stay that way, then like I said, reroll onto LC. All the joys of your apparently fail HL server, but with more people on it and it's not quite so dead.
You don't seem to realise the huge fact in all of this.
On a new PvP server you would be playing with exactly the same people you already play with..
They'd all reroll, thinking the new server is all this and that, and they're all going to be the next top dog, and then guess what. The cash shoppers from LC and HL are going to storm onto your beloved new server, cash shop their way into number one, slap the rest of you into next week, and then what's going to happen?
You're all going to demand another new server because the cash shoppers pulled exactly the same stunt that made HL suck in the first place. Etc. etc.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »Im just goign off what I read, what I see is HL is far less active than LC. If thats true, LC is pretty pathetic for a pvp server, so if HL has less than LC, Id consider it fail :P
Ah ok lol. Yeah HL is not as active in population as LC but the difference is not as great as most ppl on forums say it is. I have a few chars in LC so I really know what Im talking about. In terms of PvP its not like you will go to LC and find ppl grinding and you will crash them etc , the PvP happens on the same places as HL is just that in LC is more often due to population. But still LC is a server with good population ( it has a healthy population) and HL compared to it has a poor population. Its still fun though b:victoryAiryll - Dreamweaver wrote: »Then reroll on LC and away you go.
You've already hit 90 on a PvP server, so it's not like you're achieving anything new there whether you reroll on LC or the never-going-to-happen-just-because-you-want-it-to new PvP server.
Better yet, hit up a PvE server and go PK mode and 30, and never turn it off. All the benefits of a PvP server with the only difference is most people you're level aren't in PK mode, but everybody else who can and will one-shot you is.
Seriously. A new PvP server would achieve nothing. If Harshlands fails, the new one would even more so, because it would become a replica of Harshlands and nothing more. The same people who own on LC and/or HL would do what the major players I know on DW did when RT came out.
Jump servers. Cash shop. Own the server. Cause massive QQ. Everybody ragequits back to the old server. Life still sucks.
Agree with you. Like some1 here mentioned already, if PvP servers really were that popular both LC and HL would full and we would have 4 PvP and 2 PvE instead. But stastics say it all. Alot of the ppl complaining about a new PvP server only want to start on this server and build the history of that server, at the same time have influence on it and later on quit like so many did in HL.(\__/)
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Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »Glad to know I amuse you as much as your apparent idiocy regarding this issue amuses me.
If you don't want to reroll onto a PvE server and just go white name at 30 and stay that way, then like I said, reroll onto LC. All the joys of your apparently fail HL server, but with more people on it and it's not quite so dead.
You don't seem to realise the huge fact in all of this.
On a new PvP server you would be playing with exactly the same people you already play with..
They'd all reroll, thinking the new server is all this and that, and they're all going to be the next top dog, and then guess what. The cash shoppers from LC and HL are going to storm onto your beloved new server, cash shop their way into number one, slap the rest of you into next week, and then what's going to happen?
You're all going to demand another new server because the cash shoppers pulled exactly the same stunt that made HL suck in the first place. Etc. etc.
Meh, You do have a point.
But, that would only happen If they added packs like they did with Raging Tide server. You can still lvl fast with Hyper exp, but not as fast as oracling, I guess.
Anyway, I give up. QQing about it wont make them change mind >.<
Btw, whos your alt on HL server?0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Meh, You do have a point.
But, that would only happen If they added packs like they did with Raging Tide server. You can still lvl fast with Hyper exp, but not as fast as oracling, I guess.
Anyway, I give up. QQing about it wont make them change mind >.<
Btw, whos your alt on HL server?
The chances are that, with this new server, we are going to see the return of packs/corals. The chances of some kind of epic sale with the new server are very high, and everybody is already second guessing a form of pack is going to be what that sale is.
My alt on the HL server isn't anybody special or high level. Small-time cleric who I play on regularly to take a break from the archer and veno I have on DW. I also have a wizard I started on HL, but she's like, level 5, and is probably going to stay that way. I can always PM you in-game at some point if you should so want me to when I next play on the cleric for a bit.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »The chances are that, with this new server, we are going to see the return of packs/corals. The chances of some kind of epic sale with the new server are very high, and everybody is already second guessing a form of pack is going to be what that sale is.
My alt on the HL server isn't anybody special or high level. Small-time cleric who I play on regularly to take a break from the archer and veno I have on DW. I also have a wizard I started on HL, but she's like, level 5, and is probably going to stay that way. I can always PM you in-game at some point if you should so want me to when I next play on the cleric for a bit.
Ohhh I see.0 -
People from HL server!
Lets start PK war inside SP(Secret Passage), so we can see If GMs are still sleeping >.<0 -
PvP/PvE who care's.
Just make it a Euro Time server and watch the rest empty b:chuckle0 -
ShadowsWrath - Heavens Tear wrote: »PvP/PvE who care's.
Just make it a Euro Time server and watch the rest empty b:chuckle
Lol @ Europe
Meh I doubt about it, they will never make it euro anyway.
I live around Euro 2 and I wouldnt really like it. Most of euro's doesnt know how to spell.0 -
Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »Lol @ Europe
Meh I doubt about it, they will never make it euro anyway.
I live around Euro 2 and I wouldnt really like it. Most of euro's doesnt know how to spell.
Actually, on the Internet, bad spelling isn't nation specific. I've met people from California who had worse spelling than I had when I was 12. And English is a foreign, tertiary language to me.
And making generalisations like that isn't accurate all, it just makes you appear hateful, bitter, annoyed and misinformed. I believe anyone who wants to be taken seriously at all would want to avoid having any of those adjectives attached to themselves.
Of course, people from certain countries in Europe have bad English just because they are barely exposed to it. Take Germans for example, everything on the German television is dubbed. And yes, I just mentioned Germany, now give me Hitler.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Beldor - Harshlands wrote: »1) Raging Tide doesnt even have 3 months
Length of time has nothing to do with need for new server.
2) we have 4 pve servers
Because the PvE servers get populated much faster and continue to remain that way alot longer
3)"People demand" says it all, just check forums more often, too many ppl want pvp
read #2, popular demand is on PvE side
4)GMs are not doing this, due to lag, but for money.
GMs are the police, they dont do anything regarding making new servers.
5)Pvp
That is an oppinion. One which 4 over flowing PvE servers disagree with
6) Pve </3
See #5
7)they would earn much more money if it was pvp
They would earn possible more money in the 1st 2 weeks. But they have market analysts & statistics which show that they'd make more money overall if it was PvE. Yes money is the main motivater, it has to be cost feasable. They dont open new servers on a whim, their analysts have decided its cost feasable to open a new PvE server but not a PvP server. Just because you say PvP will make money, doesnt make it so.
8)if its really pve ppl will remain on their old servers
Appareantly enough new ppl are joining PvE servers to create strain on the current servers. Presumeably on the West coast. Many make a decision on which server to join based on latency & location as well as time zones for events.
9) PvE players have already a more than recent server, now i think its our turn
Its the turn of whatever is most in demand. Which based on population, is PvE
10) i know they wont switch to PvP, cause theres nothing related to money
They would, if you were right, but their market analysts have decided you arent.
11) but its worth trying
Everything is worth a try so wont disagree with you here
12) i guess
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