Wizard and Psychic
tootootloot
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I am looking for some information regarding both of these classes. I will get straight to the point, here is what I need to know:
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
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Hard to say. Is still too early. Every class has advantages and disadvantages. And there is still not enough end game Psychic.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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tootootloot wrote: »I am looking for some information regarding both of these classes. I will get straight to the point, here is what I need to know:
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
I played both psychic and wizard so im going to offer my opinion.
Psychic solos better
Toss up between who is better in parties
Wizards are better in PvP
Psychics are more expensive
Wizards are sexier
Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »I played both psychic and wizard so im going to offer my opinion.
Psychic solos better
Toss up between who is better in parties
Wizards are better in PvP
Psychics are more expensive
Wizards are sexier
Last one is dead wrong my friend, dead wrong! b:laughWho doesn't love pie!?0 -
Psy solos pretty easy
Psy has some good buffs for a tank, and debuffs for enemies
I'm going to say they're even in PvP, Psy has a few major advantabes, but so do wizards
Psy are VERY expansive. 1mil to get most of my skills to level 2
I have no "sexy" preferenceI'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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I played with wiz lesser than psy but here is my opinion so far.
-Psy better in soloing(faster in grinding but maybe a bit harder than wiz for bosses)
-Psy can be much hated if you don't control yourself. Good played psy is better as support and in 66% of the cases much better as DD(if we define by the elements lol). Still, what I see is that wizards are more preferable in parties.
-In PvP is disputable. Wiz have better defense, but psy have tricky debuffs. I don't duel/pk much but with psy is more fun.
-Psy are more expensive
-Psy are sexier(maybe hairstyles not that much, but bodies and faces looks much,much better)0 -
tootootloot wrote: »I am looking for some information regarding both of these classes. I will get straight to the point, here is what I need to know:
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
Veno.
Barb.
Archer/Assassin.
Cleric.
And for sexiest..no idea..veno xDAeonieX - Hybrid Vit Veno 6x
HarmieX - Pure Mag Psychic 6x
KyraneiX - Axe/Fist BM 4x
KyranthoX - Axe Barb 2x
KyyranthoX - Hybrid Cleric 2x
AskariX - Pure Dex Assassin 2x
KyraneiiX - Pure Dex Archer 0x
AeoniiX - Pure Mag Wizard 0x0 -
wizard > psychic hands down in all good aspects
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tootootloot wrote: »I am looking for some information regarding both of these classes. I will get straight to the point, here is what I need to know:
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
Just realised it was between psy and wiz xD
Psychic.
Wizard.
Wizard.
Probably about the same.AeonieX - Hybrid Vit Veno 6x
HarmieX - Pure Mag Psychic 6x
KyraneiX - Axe/Fist BM 4x
KyranthoX - Axe Barb 2x
KyyranthoX - Hybrid Cleric 2x
AskariX - Pure Dex Assassin 2x
KyraneiiX - Pure Dex Archer 0x
AeoniiX - Pure Mag Wizard 0x0 -
tootootloot wrote: »I am looking for some information regarding both of these classes. I will get straight to the point, here is what I need to know:
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
I think the psychic is going to be much easier to solo then my mage was, most everything dies before it gets to her and if it doesnt she knocks it back np
Psychic have alot of nice skills to help parties, the party heal is helpful for backup healing if the cleric cant do it, the healing increase buff ect. so again gonna go psychic
wizards still are better in pvp imo, psychics are more a wildcard as people dont know enough about them to know the best defence but that will change with time
both are not cheap, but gonan say psychic is pretty expensive skill wise
I like the new character mesh for the tideborn, I want them to update all the others now[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Celestyna - Heavens Tear wrote: »I think the psychic is going to be much easier to solo then my mage was, most everything dies before it gets to her and if it doesnt she knocks it back np
Psychic have alot of nice skills to help parties, the party heal is helpful for backup healing if the cleric cant do it, the healing increase buff ect. so again gonna go psychic
wizards still are better in pvp imo, psychics are more a wildcard as people dont know enough about them to know the best defence but that will change with time
both are not cheap, but gonan say psychic is pretty expensive skill wise
I like the new character mesh for the tideborn, I want them to update all the others now
Just little note. Psychic are maybe better in healing in emergency situation. But for healing tanker at boss is much better wizard. I have sage healing it mean 1 of 10 tries(10% of probability to full heal) I will FULLY heal target. Regardless of his HP. With -channeling gear I'm able to FULLY heal target every 30-40s.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »Psy solos pretty easy
Psy has some good buffs for a tank, and debuffs for enemies
I'm going to say they're even in PvP, Psy has a few major advantabes, but so do wizards
Psy are VERY expansive. 1mil to get most of my skills to level 2
I have no "sexy" preference
me can has "advantabes"?
b:puzzled
and me suppose Psy "expansive".
has anyone calculated how much it cost to max out tideborn skills yet?
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Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just little note. Psychic are maybe better in healing in emergency situation. But for healing tanker at boss is much better wizard. I have sage healing it mean 1 of 10 tries(10% of probability to full heal) I will FULLY heal target. Regardless of his HP. With -channeling gear I'm able to FULLY heal target every 30-40s.
I was thinking more along the lines of cleric is busy healing tank and cant aoe heal for whatever reason.
I am not disreguarding a mage's ability to heal at all however as a psychic could not be the healer on a wurlord fight where cleric must be in bb but a mage can
every class has its place and highlights[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
tootootloot wrote: »I am looking for some information regarding both of these classes. I will get straight to the point, here is what I need to know:
-Which class solos better?
-Which class is better in parties?
-Which class is better in PVP?
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
b:surrender
-Which class solos better?
Psychic.
-Which class is better in parties?
That depends. Right now, I say wizards. Mainly because Psychics keep taking agro. -.-
-Which class is better in PVP?
I'd say pretty equal right now.
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
Skill-wise, Psychic. Gear wise, can be pretty equal.
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
Nothing is better than a blue Psychic.
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psychics wont have BM like defense combined with ungodly mdef :v. nor will they have wizards m.atk/ridiculous spell modifiers for damage.MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »-Which class solos better?
Psychic.
-Which class is better in parties?
That depends. Right now, I say wizards. Mainly because Psychics keep taking agro. -.-
-Which class is better in PVP?
I'd say pretty equal right now.
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
Skill-wise, Psychic. Gear wise, can be pretty equal.
and just for fun...
-Which class is sexier?
Nothing is better than a blue Psychic.
and to answer your question from earlier in that pvp thread, im doing fine today' its my birthday, spent it blasting away noobs on COD modern warfare 2.
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Psychics are better for parties cause they have more useful buffs for the party (empowered vigor, soul of _____ but most don't like the mana drain it gives) than a wizard (frost blade..... lol) and psychics have a 80ish% AoE stun.
Only time Wiz is better for the party is in rebirth ;PNavarre was your everyday veno, until she learned her true form. Now she's fox walloping and purging over and over again.. all for a deep stinging, head hunting, wind pushing Assassin. Will there be inner harmony and myriad rainbows? But of course! Yuri&Lemon Find it on Fanfiction XD "Discovering Sanctuary" Chapter 2 is up ^_^0 -
Psychictootootloot wrote: »-Which class solos better?
Wizard-Which class is better in parties?
Psychic-Which class is better in PVP?
Psychic-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
Wizard-Which class is sexier?
Now your lazy butt can get to oracling a psy.0 -
I don't play psychic, and only have little experience with wizard. This is by watching and from hearing feedback.
-Which class solos better?
Psychic.
-Which class is better in parties?
Good psychic for instance runs. (Very different from wizard, from squading with them.)
Wizards for aoe/rebirth.
-Which class is better in PVP?
No personal experience.
Watched both, seems on equal ground.
-Which class is more expensive to maintain?
Don't know.
-Which class is sexier?
Depends on your modeling.
Wizards stand out more though. (Cuz every Tideborn looks the same.)0 -
You do your own research you know just by reading the respective forums and looking around.Then there is the beginner forum stickies.Like this if you read down there.
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3253182&postcount=6Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »psychics wont have BM like defense combined with ungodly mdef :v. nor will they have wizards m.atk/ridiculous spell modifiers for damage.
Im not sure but is that sarcasm cus I thought that was exactly what they got in the way of skills?0 -
Miseri - Dreamweaver wrote: »Im not sure but is that sarcasm cus I thought that was exactly what they got in the way of skills?
I think she's saying wizards with Stone Barrier and some other skills make them superior to psychics.0 -
I think a psychic is much better than a wizard :P (please don't throw tomatoes at me)
PVE Wise
As mentioned, they can be very independent with their array of offensive and defensive skills if build correctly. Like wizards, their skills as a DD is unquestionably awesome, hence the problem with their aggro steal. Compared with a wizard, a psychic has more squad support skills that are more useful and is more likely to reduce chances of squad wipe out. Its true a wizard can heal, but that job is usually left to the cleric, and wiz only heals if an emergency presents itself if the cleric is unable to. Lets take a look at a few psychic skills
Bubble of Life Level 10
Cooldown 30.0 seconds
Heal all friendly targets within 15 meters for 30.0% of your base magic attack plus
1000 over 15 seconds.
The healing may not be a lot for everyone else, but can prevent a squad wipe out from
AoEs and 30% for a barb's hp is a lot. The only disadvantage to this skill is the long
cool down time.
Psychic Will Level 10
Cooldown 30.0 seconds
Removes any negative status from the target, and the target becomes immune to physical damage for 8.0 seconds.
I can't remember how many times I've been in a failed bh Pole/Nob squad because of
the barbs crappy defense, or a glitch with a cleric's skill rendering her/him unable to
purify the debuff in time. With this skill available to the squad, think of how much
finger pointing it can save.
The only major advantage I see a wizard having over a psychic in a squad is continuous AoE damage skills. Psychics do have a few, Red tide, and SandBurst blast only lasts 9-10 secs and is very chi costly. My most favorite is Earth Vector which deals Earth damage to all targets within 6 meters. Has a 85% chance to Stun enemies for 6.0 seconds. A wizard has Mountain's Seize, which has pretty much the same effect but requires 2 sparks, wider range damage but more channel time -and I rarely see wizards use it.
These AoE skills may not have a long duration, but the stun effects and 9-10 secs damage attacks is enough to get the job done for the groups of mobs in FCC, however not good enough to replace a wizard/archer in Rebirth. But in my opinion, I rather prefer to have a psychic over a veno in Rebirth because of their AoEs and squad support skills.
PVP Wise
From the comments I've read pertaining to the damage that a psychic can deal, I don't see how they can fall behind a wizard with such nuke attacks, which can kill HA and LA on par with a wizard. Their Diminished Vigor skill can even readjust the charm cooldown time and heal effects of the enemies. A huge advantage right now is that not many people are aware of what a Psy can do or what to expect, so you have an element of surprise with your attacks.
I couldn't find any info about what the Demon/Sage version of the skills are, if they we're to be completed - I'm guessing they will be even more over powered.
Video of all Psychic Skills
http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/pwi-psychic-class-skills-1-59/2632601008/?icid=VIDURVVID040 -
Well here's how I see it (played both classes):
Better solo-psy by far
Better in parties-psy if you play your voodoo switching right. Ppl are still reluctant to party with TB but after a while when players get the hang of them ppl will see that psy are very important in a pt.
Better in pvp-well it's hard to beat a wizard. But when ppl won't try anymore to act like a wiz when they play a psy all will even out. The psy doesn't hit as hard as a wiz for each hit but they can stack 5 DoT skills and can murder a HP charm really fast. Also white voodoo>>>black voodoo.
More expensive-well i have no problem buying skills but the mana drain is nasty. Psy is a little more expensive.
Sexier-Please!!! Have you see TB abs and pecs. And we get cool hair without the need to go to CS. And all TB have a clean shaveb:cute.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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wiz > psy
will have to wait for final psy skills to maybe evaluate
still we got some pretty nice support skills - as well as nice animations of our skills
but maybe they only look nice to me , cause i saw wiz skills too often <-- former main was wiz0 -
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I hope we never meet up, cause I'd be MORE than happy to teach you a thing or 2 about underestimating a class in this game. solo out a barb at close range on a wizard, then do it as a psychic, tell me, which is easier?psy buff is good if u wanna blow your mana away..oterh than that psy's are lame..the looks..etc..the only time ill have a psy in my party is if its a guildmate or some party leaderthrows one in cause the yfeel sorry for them
and your a oracle nub^^
**the females can look decent..but most of the time they look like dead women...but i'd still hit it.
Psy's Soul of Vengence only takes .4% of SF (worth of) mana away, even with a barb at low mp, a single pot will refill the mana easily, helping hold agro MUCH better. best part of the buff is it reflects ALL damage, not just some of it. wanna take down a barb, only need 2 sparks. psychic will and soulburn, barb drops. and this can be done at close range. Moreover, I can't count the times I saved a party wipe by taking the front of the attacks in instances. Psychics can do that, they can protect a party quite well, can a wizard do that?I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »me can has "advantabes"?
b:puzzled
and me suppose Psy "expansive".
has anyone calculated how much it cost to max out tideborn skills yet?
o.O
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Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »Moreover, I can't count the times I saved a party wipe by taking the front of the attacks in instances. Psychics can do that, they can protect a party quite well, can a wizard do that?
As a matter of fact, yes we can.
In fb69 I've prevented a squad wipe before by tanking Polearm when the BM tank died. I've also tanked some TT bosses in 3-1 when the veno's herc died, and i tanked Decaying Fragrance (has same debuff as polearm) in FC.
Good cleric + wizard = win.
For protecting clerics/squad, Will of the phoenix is good for agroing any mobs that are going for the cleric because of heal agro or the main tank dying. Sutra-heal can keep a barb or bm alive in an emergency, or normal healing as with wurlord helps also.
I've also soloed 1-3 solo mode charm tanking it because I got bored once a few levels ago. Almost died a lot on bosses, but it was doable. Not in a hurry to try that again of course lol. And not going to try squad mode since I'm not a veno/not bored now.
Wizards are good for soloing with experience, my psy alt I don't know about because it's only lvl 19 but same experience as 1-19 on wizard so far.
In squads: Both can be useful depending upon needs, wizard is better for jobs such as second healer fighting Wurlord in TT, or any instance where zhenning is used often and DB is needed. Wizard + psy is great for FC though.
PVP: I haven't fought any end game psys yet in pk/tw, so I can't say for that. The duels I've had against a friend's 82 psy a lot of the special skills psy get aren't a factor against wizards. Soul of stunning: seal the psy then undine strike, it triggers the stun, and the seal lasts most of the time i'm stunned so I don't take damage. Soul of vengeance doesn't do that much damage to me so far. Soulburn is made for classes that attack quickly, not classes that use 2-5 nukes/skills and then done. Also, for any class over lvl 89 with their sage/demon spark, it includes a purifying effect. So it's possible to purify off the psy debuffs if you don't use your spark before the debuffs.
Since I don't have a high level psy/haven't watched one pk/tw, I can't say how they compare to wizard overall. But for TW, wizards have Blade Tempest, Black Ice Dragon Strike, and DB, all very useful aoes. And I've seen Blade Tempest and BIDS kill a lot of people and have used them to kill a lot of people.0 -
Wizzies are so much sexier. b:dirty[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I have played a wiz to 101 and this char to 81 and I can say this:
I've died much less as a psychic than a wizard (better soloers from early on). I remember being level 7x-8x on wiz and getting roflstomped by Polearm's and Soulbanisher's aoe. I live with psy. Yay white voodoo!
I've had no problems getting into normal squads as a psy, but when it comes to rebirth, I've done maybe 2 on this character, and that was at level 74-ish. Psys don't have the continuous aoe, but their aoes have short channeling time and a fairly low cooldown, so they're easy to spam-chain.
I am REALLY suffering in the coin department here. My wiz was able to get into rebirths, and was able to make coin easily that way. My psy, on the other hand, will get passed up for a veno any day, so no coin to be made there. I just updated ONE skill to just level 6. Completely broke now, and mind you, it was one of the earlier skills. As for armor, both are arcane, so it's gonna be a toss-up when Ivy hits 90.
I dunno much about PVP on my psy--I've done a few duels with sins (bad idea) and archers (bad idea when the archer's 30 levels higher), didn't work in my favor. But I haven't seen many psychics in PK mode on Dreamweaver. I dunno if they even exist. As for PVP on my wiz...well, I'm just a nubbiscuit all around, so...yeah. But I've killed things with ease as a wizzie.
As for sexier...I think I made my wizard's butt too big...b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I will say this about Psychics. Soul Burn destroys veno pets, including the mighty Phoenix.0
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