Is it worth being Archer?

Sheyde - Sanctuary
Sheyde - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Archer
Hi guys, i have been playing PW for some time already as a Cleric but got bored with everyone around killing me, cant stand any class in Pvp, i though about archer, physical ranged attack, shield i was also thinking about assasin but i hate melee...with light armor? I saw Archers in Pk swooshing people away, also in TW so i have question as archer would i finally have some power? Is it worth to play elven stick shooter? :P
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  • PinkSuccubuS - Lost City
    PinkSuccubuS - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    b:laugh what u lose 2 archer u stink i love dueling archer and kick their **** not pvp untill i reach 90 +
  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hi guys, i have been playing PW for some time already as a Cleric but got bored with everyone around killing me, cant stand any class in Pvp, i though about archer, physical ranged attack, shield i was also thinking about assasin but i hate melee...with light armor? I saw Archers in Pk swooshing people away, also in TW so i have question as archer would i finally have some power? Is it worth to play elven stick shooter? :P

    playing an archer is totally worth it if you play it and stop lvling at the peek of its power which is at 7x.
    I don't care how old or young you are, how small your **** is, how much of a nerd irl you are or how depressed you are that you never will get laid. There is no reason to act like an A-hole to everyone on an mmorpg. Its a shame that I have to take time out of my day to tell people "stop being an A-hole". So I end with this, if your acting like an A-hole, and some one tells you your being an A-hole chances are your being an A-hole.
  • Dooogy - Raging Tide
    Dooogy - Raging Tide Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    im a lvl 12 venomancer and so far its working great so i recomend that i might also try archer and i got a lvl 12 barberian it sucks!
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i am having fun on my archer, and think its worth it if you have what it takes to be a good one.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    im a lvl 12 venomancer and so far its working great so i recomend that i might also try archer and i got a lvl 12 barberian it sucks!

    At that level, a barb hasn't even begun to blossom to 1/10 of his potential. Nor has a veno, for that matter. Play them until level 40 or so and talk about how they "suck." Then you'll have an informed opinion.

    @OP: Love my barb and love my archer. Honestly I love my barb a little bit more since my play style is more melee. But I think I've got a decent understanding of archers now... and life as a DD is pretty fun too.

    With decent refines and good equips you should be able to have a great deal of fun as an archer. But if you don't, re-roll until you find the class you enjoy.
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  • Klizzahrd - Lost City
    Klizzahrd - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well first of all archers at end game are not the most powerful guys on PW for pvpb:cry

    There are some advantages tho:
    1) You can zone out during those frigg'n long bosses that have upward of 2-3 mill hp.
    2) By my lvl you can usually kill the mobs before they ever hit you.
    3) I was going to say we have the most awesome crits of any class....but then sins arrived...
    4) You can shoot from a long way away..which translates into you being able to avoid party wipes sometimes...
    5) We look cool
    6) Our repair costs are not horribly high
    7) We can use fists
    Cons:
    1) You will take aggro by accident and **** off the squad
    2) LA90 armor looks downright **** for males.
    3) You will spend $$$ on ammo
    4) You will run out of ammo if you arent careful and be rendered useless (unless u have some fists)
    5) At lower lvls you will have to kite and spam knockback
    6) Mag attacks will hurt like a muthafker
    7) annnnnd if u wanna rock at PvP later on you will need to cash shop like mad.

    I'm sure I forgot some.....
  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Archers are the cheapest class in the game, great class to start off then to use to make money for your alt
    Navarre was your everyday veno, until she learned her true form. Now she's fox walloping and purging over and over again.. all for a deep stinging, head hunting, wind pushing Assassin. Will there be inner harmony and myriad rainbows? But of course! Yuri&Lemon Find it on Fanfiction XD "Discovering Sanctuary" Chapter 2 is up ^_^
  • VenoBoyUK - Heavens Tear
    VenoBoyUK - Heavens Tear Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    tbh...you want a veno..Nix is epic in PvP or if you can get 10x wiz is best-wiz is like a nuke
    b:angryb:angryb:angryb:angryb:angryb:angry
    Venomancer for life not just for a day!!!!!!
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    This very same topic was posted a while ago, if I recall correctly. Just like now, I said the following at that time:

    If you really need to ask if it's worth it, then it's probably not.
    If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.

    Everyone wants to be different, but when you're different you wish you were normal.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well first of all archers at end game are not the most powerful guys on PW for pvpb:cry

    Is this a QQ? Your not supposed to be the most powerful, neither the weakest.

    There are some advantages tho:
    1) You can zone out during those frigg'n long bosses that have upward of 2-3 mill hp.

    2) By my lvl you can usually kill the mobs before they ever hit you.

    I guess thats true :P

    3) I was going to say we have the most awesome crits of any class....but then sins arrived...
    4) You can shoot from a long way away..which translates into you being able to avoid party wipes sometimes...
    Anyone can avoid party wipes, but at same time anyone can die in party wipe, this is not an actual pro xD
    5) We look cool
    Not a pro
    6) Our repair costs are not horribly high
    Not horribly high which any class can avoid, not too hard to do, but still imo the 2nd most expensive class ever <.<
    7) We can use fists
    no comment b:sweat
    Cons:
    1) You will take aggro by accident and **** off the squad
    squishy death D:
    2) LA90 armor looks downright **** for males.
    lol no comment... I rather put fash on non-barbs anyways
    3) You will spend $$$ on ammo
    4) You will run out of ammo if you arent careful and be rendered useless (unless u have some fists)
    This is horrible for all archers lol, its best to carry at least 10k arrows (9999 exact)
    5) At lower lvls you will have to kite and spam knockback
    with 3 second slow is hopeless b:surrender
    6) Mag attacks will hurt like a muthafker
    I remember getting 2 shotted by an FB mob casting spells on my archer
    7) annnnnd if u wanna rock at PvP later on you will need to cash shop like mad.
    Cash shopping to PVP... I lol'ed, you think others that dunno how to play don't think the same?

    I'm sure I forgot some....
    you forgot close range = damage reduction, slowest attack rate which makes them have the worst DPS at early LVLs if not using skills (lack of crit b:surrender) so that means they rely a high load of MP recovery items to kill faster
    They are powder/potion dependent,

    There, fixed for you :D
    Archers are the cheapest class in the game, great class to start off then to use to make money for your alt

    They are 2nd most expensive... repairs... arrows... pots / powders / charms. Venoes are the most expensive. Yes they get least repairs, but to get both pets, skills and pet skills are worse.
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    They are 2nd most expensive... repairs... arrows... pots / powders / charms. Venoes are the most expensive. Yes they get least repairs, but to get both pets, skills and pet skills are worse.

    This is wrong.

    Repairs are negligible because you should not get hit often.

    Arrows are negligible because you should stick to the cheapest arrows.

    Potions are negligible because you should use less than you get from grinding drops.

    Powders are negligible because you should not need them. If you do use them, there's no need to use many.

    Charms are negligible because you should not need them. If you do use them, you should not tick often because you should not get hit often.
  • Kiyori - Raging Tide
    Kiyori - Raging Tide Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    This is wrong.

    Repairs are negligible because you should not get hit often.

    True.
    Arrows are negligible because you should stick to the cheapest arrows.

    Yep.
    Potions are negligible because you should use less than you get from grinding drops.

    At MY level (36) you chuck potions like mad. You literally spam them, and you doublespam hp+rejuv, because you take ALOT of damage. Melees reach you because they have more HP than you can remove. Casters get atleast one spell off before they die, and then they hurt. I feel it's getting better already, but a few levels earlier, it was just as bad. Take this into consideration.
    Powders are negligible because you should not need them. If you do use them, there's no need to use many.

    I don't use any, but I would if I wasn't that greedy. ;)
    Charms are negligible because you should not need them. If you do use them, you should not tick often because you should not get hit often.

    Can't comment on that. Since things start to get easier (very, very slowly) already, I believe all the statements on the Archer boards to be true - for higher levels. I don't know when that magical break through point will be, but at 36, it hasn't arrived just yet.

    I'm kinda optimistic, and I just love the Archer class.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I was horrible as an archer at low levels, yet all those statements were true.

    If mobs are able to reach you, then you have to judiciously use Winged Shell to defend yourself and increase MP.

    EDIT: You may also need to kite. It is worth learning.
  • Kiyori - Raging Tide
    Kiyori - Raging Tide Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well I'm fighting my way to level 40 at the moment, where hopefully lots of problems will vanish. The BHs will help quite a bit, but mainly the Tideborn questline. That's like 4-5 levels you jump ahead in one day, which means 2 more levels Blazing Arrow, Frost Arrow, Winged Shell and Winged Blessing, 1 more Bow Mastery. That's a huge boost!

    I did the kiting thing. Did that also on my Cleric, with Greater cyclone, but on my Archer I find it a bit more difficult. Maybe it'll improve later, with longer snare duration on Frost Arrow.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Did you open your level 30 Stash? I think that gives 100 potions of each type.
  • Kiyori - Raging Tide
    Kiyori - Raging Tide Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yep I did :) I'm restocking to 100 every time I'm in town, just in case ;)
  • ClericNico - Dreamweaver
    ClericNico - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I enjoy my archer. Don't think i'd make him my main, but he is really fun to play. Had him up to lvl 36, but his stats were messed up (IMO), so i rerolled him as pure dex and he's lvl 21 now. Except for increased life or increased defense mobs, i kill pretty much everything before it has the chance to hit me. Now that i have knockback again, i'm not going thru as many pots, since i just use take aim to open, normal attacks till close, knockback, and normals to finish. No need to really use much in the way of skills. I do use skills on mobs that are either of the 2 special stats listed above tho. Usually i start with take aim again, frost, vicious, knockback, lightning strike, normal to finish. I can still kill them without having to kite too much most of the time.

    I'm looking forward to getting my little archer up to 40 and starting to do bhs. Should be fun using him in squads. I'll just have to be careful not to steal aggro of course. b:chuckle
    Sometimes, when I'm bored, I blow myself up. b:victory

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    _Poe_: 7x Barbarian, Tormented Executor (Hate2Love Alt Faction)
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    The cleric formerly known as the veno known as Sheeeba. b:chuckle
  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lets not forget LA is the cheapest armor in game

    EDIT: to further my point on archer's being cheapest
    Navarre was your everyday veno, until she learned her true form. Now she's fox walloping and purging over and over again.. all for a deep stinging, head hunting, wind pushing Assassin. Will there be inner harmony and myriad rainbows? But of course! Yuri&Lemon Find it on Fanfiction XD "Discovering Sanctuary" Chapter 2 is up ^_^
  • Miseri - Dreamweaver
    Miseri - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well first of all archers at end game are not the most powerful guys on PW for pvpb:cry

    There are some advantages tho:
    1) You can zone out during those frigg'n long bosses that have upward of 2-3 mill hp.
    2) By my lvl you can usually kill the mobs before they ever hit you.
    3) I was going to say we have the most awesome crits of any class....but then sins arrived...

    I'm sure I forgot some.....

    Just wanted to say, feel for ya , we mages feel the same way about the Psychics when it comes to being top, now i hear were not top DD and now i find out you archies are not top critters
    this world is going upside down help us XD
  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You should definetly roll archer guise i mean from level 1-89 you is pro.


    But them at 90-100 these wizords come out from being squishy to hitting you for 20k+
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You should definetly roll archer guise i mean from level 1-89 you is pro.


    But them at 90-100 these wizords come out from being squishy to hitting you for 20k+

    dont scare them.. XD whatever the makeing 20k alone need few second at lv90 ... until that u can die.