Puncture Wound

deazura
deazura Posts: 1 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Assassin
For those of you who are experienced assassins, what do you think of this skill? Looks really good to level up early levels but am unsure if it would be a waste later on. Thanks.
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  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i took it to 10. it was useful until i hit 60
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  • Aclucius - Lost City
    Aclucius - Lost City Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I stopped using it around 45. It's a great skill, but I don't think it should come before anything like Rib Strike.
  • Ephemerai - Sanctuary
    Ephemerai - Sanctuary Posts: 335 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    It doesn't do much damage later on.. if it did more damage per tick it could be worth something ;[ It's amazing during the lower levels, though.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Completely useless after 60-70. If you can live without it before then, don't level it
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Kuroi_Sin - Dreamweaver
    Kuroi_Sin - Dreamweaver Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I got it maxed as soon as I could. I use it as a starter usually when grinding.

    Puncture Wound > Spark > normal

    The extra damage from the bleed just helps the mobs drop a little faster. Useful in PvP in that you can deal damage while you are stunned, asleep, frozen, etc. It has its place. Hopefully it will get better Demon/Sage.

    *drools* shorter duration (bleed stacks)
    Kuroi_Sin
    The Holy Black Assassin
  • Anadyan - Lost City
    Anadyan - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So if Im following this

    Skill Upgrading Priority

    Group A: Top Priority, Must Have Up to Date at all Cost
    Puncture Wounds (lvl 3)
    Slipstream Strike (lvl 6)
    Rib Strike (lvl 29)
    Dagger Devotion (lvl 29)
    Chill of the Deep (lvl 44)
    Subsea Strike (lvl 59)

    Group B: High Priority, Keep up to date, but not at the cost of Group A
    Raving Slash (lvl 9)
    Tackling Slash (lvl 29)
    Focused Mind (lvl 19)
    Rising Dragon Strike (lvl 49)
    Inner Harmony (lvl 59)
    Wolf Emblem (lvl 9)


    Group C: Optional, get these based off personal preference only.
    Cat-like Thread (lvl 29)
    Sharp Observer (lvl 29)
    Deaden Nerves (lvl 39)
    Shadow Jump (lvl 29)
    Deep Sting (lvl 19)
    Throatcut (lvl 39)


    Group D: Low Priority, get it only when you have enough to spare
    Tidal Protection (lvl 59)
    Shadow Walk (lvl 13)
    Shadow Escape (lvl 29)
    Knife Throw (lvl 19)


    where should I leave each skill at what lv if some don't become useful after such lv like Punture Wound at what lv should I stop lving it.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Where's Headhunt? o.o
  • Swaze - Sanctuary
    Swaze - Sanctuary Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    CoD + spark + Rib strike and/or Headhunt = Epic
    1st sage assassin in sanctuary. That's right, I jumped in with my eyes half closed. b:cute
  • AgIaia - Lost City
    AgIaia - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    got it from Ark's sin guide so headhunt in what group should it go of priority A.B,C or D.

    and Punture Wound at what lv should I leave it since it becomes useless after lv60?

    also talking about combos which is the most efficient in DPS and MP less usage from lv30-40?
  • Xirella - Harshlands
    Xirella - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I do not find puncture wound to be useful at my level. Yes I have it at lvl 10 but I do not use it at all. For me it is wasted coin and spirit.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    If you're not sure whether you want to level puncture wound just don't do it and spend time leveling your character instead. Even Windpush is more useful than Puncture Wound. Skills like Rib Strike, Tackling Slash and Throatcut are far better/more important.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • AgIaia - Lost City
    AgIaia - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I'm lv25 and have lved up P.w everytime should I stop now?

    also got windpush lv1 at what lv is it useful to have it?
  • VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver
    VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I'm lv25 and have lved up P.w everytime should I stop now?

    also got windpush lv1 at what lv is it useful to have it?

    At your level puncture wound is pretty useful. If you can survive the next several levels without it then save yourself some coin and SP by ignoring it.

    As for windpush, it's basically the same as a BM's cloud sprint so I'll just quote Kniraven:
    ***** Cloud Sprint: Learned at Level 9. Get it. It's you're GTFO skill, your chase down the enemy skill, your hurry over and save the squishy skill, not to mention your God damn it sucks moving around the map; let's speed things up skill.
    Personally, I always keep windpush leveled but it's more a matter of preference.
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  • AgIaia - Lost City
    AgIaia - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    LOL nice; another thing what's a double sparker saw a post that mentioned it?
  • Trawne - Lost City
    Trawne - Lost City Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    double sparker is you after 59. with inner harmony, rising dragon strike, and tackling slash you can pretty much endlessly double spark when fighting.


    puncture wound is a usefull skill when you have CoD up. you'll need it to fill the time when your other skills are on cooldown.
    I hope that I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of title, the character of an honest man. -George Washington
  • Centaura - Dreamweaver
    Centaura - Dreamweaver Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ive been noticing puncture wound has been becoming less useful as i level
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    double sparker is you after 59. with inner harmony, rising dragon strike, and tackling slash you can pretty much endlessly double spark when fighting.


    puncture wound is a usefull skill when you have CoD up. you'll need it to fill the time when your other skills are on cooldown.
    Problem is puncture wound doesn't benefit from CoD as much as most other skills. Usually you shouldn't need it, Twin Strike, Slipstream, Rib strike, RDS and whatever skills you use to pin your target down will keep you busy.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Zuenzu - Sanctuary
    Zuenzu - Sanctuary Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    As soon as I hit 29, I didn't need it at all. Tackling Slash > Rib Strike > Slipstream Strike and most enemies around my level fall. Of course, it is very useful if you're soloing a boss like that huge tree guy south of Orchid Village or w/e.

    So I don't get hurt at all, I often use Tackling Slash > Puncture Wound > Deep Sting, run off, pull out bow, wait, shoot when it wakes up and it's dead, so Puncture Wound can be usefull if you want to deal damage while taking none. =/
  • Tapion_ - Dreamweaver
    Tapion_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I like to bleed, stun and watch em die >:)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • AgIaia - Lost City
    AgIaia - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    As soon as I hit 29, I didn't need it at all. Tackling Slash > Rib Strike > Slipstream Strike and most enemies around my level fall. Of course, it is very useful if you're soloing a boss like that huge tree guy south of Orchid Village or w/e.

    So I don't get hurt at all, I often use Tackling Slash > Puncture Wound > Deep Sting, run off, pull out bow, wait, shoot when it wakes up and it's dead, so Puncture Wound can be usefull if you want to deal damage while taking none. =/

    That new combo your using now is better right, I'm still using Deep Sting>Slipstream>Punctured wound>Slipstream.
  • StainedBlade - Heavens Tear
    StainedBlade - Heavens Tear Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I enjoy Puncture wound as a low aggro/hate skill. Usually prevents me from killing myself. Not much use for me now for things other than that (80+).

    -Flop Flop- I'm a fish
  • Accel - Raging Tide
    Accel - Raging Tide Posts: 673 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I guess I don't really regret leveling this skill because you can still use it in pvp for the 100% weapon damage, most of our skills have like 8-15 second cooldown b:surrender
    You can't see me b:avoid.
  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So if Im following this

    Skill Upgrading Priority

    Group A: Top Priority, Must Have Up to Date at all Cost
    Puncture Wounds (lvl 3)
    Slipstream Strike (lvl 6)
    Rib Strike (lvl 29)
    Dagger Devotion (lvl 29)
    Chill of the Deep (lvl 44)
    Subsea Strike (lvl 59)

    Group B: High Priority, Keep up to date, but not at the cost of Group A
    Raving Slash (lvl 9) <
    are you serious?
    Tackling Slash (lvl 29)
    Focused Mind (lvl 19)
    Rising Dragon Strike (lvl 49)
    Inner Harmony (lvl 59)
    Wolf Emblem (lvl 9)


    Group C: Optional, get these based off personal preference only.
    Cat-like Thread (lvl 29)
    Sharp Observer (lvl 29)
    Deaden Nerves (lvl 39)
    Shadow Jump (lvl 29)
    Deep Sting (lvl 19)
    Throatcut (lvl 39)


    Group D: Low Priority, get it only when you have enough to spare
    Tidal Protection (lvl 59)
    Shadow Walk (lvl 13)
    Shadow Escape (lvl 29)
    Knife Throw (lvl 19)


    where should I leave each skill at what lv if some don't become useful after such lv like Punture Wound at what lv should I stop lving it.

    i dont agree with all of that. but raving slash is rediculous to lvl
  • ColdCrush - Lost City
    ColdCrush - Lost City Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Considering that I'm mostly used to the old draw blood skill for my bm, this skill is ownage. :o And for now up until 60 or 70+ I'd most likely be using it always. Especially when mobs can sometimes do bramble or run a way a lot.
  • Nexdonuum - Lost City
    Nexdonuum - Lost City Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    DoT's are awesome. You may end up using it less and less in PvE (I know I've found myself using it less), but it still has it's random uses in PvE, and it sure helps a lot in PvP. I just love critting on some poor soul who attacked me with Slipstream, Puncturing them, hitting them again, then sleep/stunning them and letting them die to my DoT.


    >:D
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  • AgIaia - Lost City
    AgIaia - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i dont agree with all of that. but raving slash is rediculous to lvl

    It's Arktone's, if it's wrong how would you do it, what it the highest group of skill upgrade in priority then?
  • Xirella - Harshlands
    Xirella - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Skills to level up:

    Wolf Emblem

    Focused Mind

    Rib Strike

    Shadow Escape

    Throatcut

    Chill of The Deep (this one depends but I PvP as much as I can and know the value of using it)

    Head Hunt

    Shadow Teleport

    Dagger Devotion

    Sharp Observer (If you are on a PK server you will value this)

    Cat-Like Tread

    Why do I not mention skills like deaden nerves or bloodpaint? Well level 1 of those until you can afford to max all skills is about all you need early on.

    Do you really choose to ignore skills like deep sting and knife throw? I did not ignore them but levelling them past lvl 1 really is not much of a priority. However where you can its never a bad idea to put a level on shadow jump (once again if you are going to pvp).

    Are you mad? Why not level punture wound or slipstream strike!! Well because I find I use them less and less the higher I level. Ok yeah mabey I should have put slipstream strike on the list since its one of your best heavy damage skills for quite a while but to be honest its not a skill I find myself leaning on heavily.

    What about raving slash? Its raving madness. I actually preferred it when it gave you the speed boost as opposed to slowing down the target! Now I know you are mad! Well not so. As I have learned on the PvP server battles change positions and they are not all 1v1. The problem with a lot of what I read with regards to PvP comments is that they almost always assume 1v1 on the ground without genie skills, pots etc. Thats not real PvP though! So wrt to raving slash I actually liked being able to hit a target (any target) just for a quick speed boost. What will I do with a slow when I got tackling slash, shadow teleport and shadow jump?

    Anyway have fun with your sin.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Shadow Teleport shouldn't be leveled at all until late... far too expensive for something that only increases the range.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Xirella - Harshlands
    Xirella - Harshlands Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You get money you pay for it. The discussion was not about what you can and cannot afford.
  • AgIaia - Lost City
    AgIaia - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ty Xirella I won't be following Arktone's approche anymore.