forgotten frostland nerfed before i ever got to do it?

wasnt really 'nerfed' it was changed to be a leveling ground instead of a gear hunt instance. you can still get gear from each of the bosses at a small chance.

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

There is nothing hard worth working for in this game anymore.

Warsoul? b:chuckle

They didn't nerf Frost, they made it better. Anyone who did frost before the change, knows it was just about impossible to complete. It was just too hard. I think you may have more chance for an item from random drop than farming the old one.

Frost gear/equips, imo, are obsolete. I see you are 91, if you want to farm gear try lunar glade.

axt57 wrote: »

Warsoul? b:chuckle

You realize if you wanted to farm Warsoul, you need frost drops right? That are no longer there....
might be another item you can trade for that fragment, but i think its also frost not 100% though :O


Mysterious chips gogogo!

Kephras - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Good lord, PUNCTUATE for cryin' out loud. There's a period on your keyboard for a reason.

And to answer your question, no. Farming FF is impossible since no mobs drop curvades anymore.

lmao

/10char

Noob question that I'm too embarrassed to ask on my forum main: Forgotten Frostlands and Frost Covered City; what's the difference?
b:surrender

D'oh...am I thinking of the right thing? FC gear?

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Really? Gold frost rings are better than almost anything except DQ/CoA/Lunar. A few of the ornaments are still the best endgame for some classes. And yes, it was nerfed. What's the point of even doing frost if you don't want exp? There is none.

If you knew anything about Lunar Glade you know farming gear is pretty difficult and very expensive. I farmed more than half the gold mats for my necklace, but it still cost me over 40m coin, not including what I spent in time, charms, pots, etc... That was before they nerfed lunar. It's still not complete... but I'm not holding my breath, the 'awards' for trophy mode are pathetic at best.

Again as I said, before the change it was impossible to complete, much less gather the materials for the items. I ran that instance before the change several times. I can only imagine you haven't.

The OP is lvl 91. Lunar glade is the best bet for equips etc, if they wanted to farm something like frost. Higher grade and better refines and gear can be made into Nirvana. During the last double drops we farmed a guildies gold armor in 1 run. That means for 3 mill coin aside from one gold mat.

I stand by what I originally posted. I was just suggesting another more viable option.

LOL @ complaining about earning gear

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Again as I said, before the change it was impossible to complete, much less gather the materials for the items. I ran that instance before the change several times. I can only imagine you haven't.

The OP is lvl 91. Lunar glade is the best bet for equips etc, if they wanted to farm something like frost. Higher grade and better refines and gear can be made into Nirvana. During the last double drops we farmed a guildies gold armor in 1 run. That means for 3 mill coin aside from one gold mat.

I stand by what I originally posted.

It wasn't impossible to complete. Maybe squad mode was- never got the chance to try it, but saving up the curvades and fragments, was able to solo everything in there at 80ish. It was very time consuming, yes, and gear was impossible to get then too.

1,000 Pasts or random pre- made equipment drops
or
Tons of curvades with no uses because other things didn't drop or able to make some warsoul items for a hard-as-hell-to-get weapon

It's really a trade- off of interests in the end. Even Warsong is not that much of a challenge once you figure it out.

I thought solo was for farming and squad was just for exp. I also thought that the changes made it so that there were more drops in solo mode. now I gotta go backtrack through the updates to see what they did.

Edit: found it....

Kantorek wrote: »

Frostcovered City
No one would choose to face a challenging Boss if the rewards aren't worth it. Frostcovered City was originally designed to help LV 85-95 Players level-up, so we've taken the liberty of adjusting the EXP rewards to reflect that purpose. Additionally, the drops within Frostcovered City have been adjusted to be more gear oriented, rather than materials or components.

There's more but post length must be limited

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Again as I said, before the change it was impossible to complete, much less gather the materials for the items. I ran that instance before the change several times. I can only imagine you haven't.

The OP is lvl 91. Lunar glade is the best bet for equips etc, if they wanted to farm something like frost. Higher grade and better refines and gear can be made into Nirvana. During the last double drops we farmed a guildies gold armor in 1 run. That means for 3 mill coin aside from one gold mat.

I stand by what I originally posted. I was just suggesting another more viable option.

LOL @ complaining about earning gear

I know at least a dozen people that had farmed or were currently farming Frost ... from a full set of armor, and others at various stages of farming weapons and ornaments. Indeed it was difficult, but it was doable If the original frost were to come back now, there would be dozens farming it, if only to resell the items... many would actually use them. A number of items are end-game for various classes. Frost neck for heavy venos, daggers for sins, rings for casters that can't afford 180m to farm event rings, etc...

Just because you like they turned it into an exp carnival ride doesn't mean it's better. Sure, it's different, but if you've ever run frost, where's the challenge? Sorry, Frost is freaking boring, and you can't even farm gear there anymore

And if you're familiar with the changes to Lunar, the new prices for unknown/ancient tinder, make some of the items rediculously overpriced to actually farm. You won't get all your gold mats by drops, so you'll need to chip and coin them, and you'll have to pay cash to do it now.

ButtSekks - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Double drops + Lunar Squad mode = pretty rewarding instance

I did 2 runs and got a 2 guildies Lunar Chests, which for arcane is better then tt99 for most casters. Even if you paid for 4 runs your still under the cost of 1 illusion Stone for tt99 chest.

Old pre-Nerf Frost was insanely hard and not even worth the **** for the rewards. You had to be 95+ to run that instance in a decent amount of time and who needs 85 gear at that lvl? If your over lvl 90 I would run Frost for exp and TT or Lunar for gears.

If you have any questions about the instances further let me know I would be more then happy to help you with what you need.

I've farmed my gold CV neck with hard work and a lot of HH and Lunar runs, so you're not telling me anything important. 2x drops? You're kidding? You're saying that like it's a common occurrence. I farmed my lunar without it. *shrug*

Sorry, never done new Lunar. Are you talking about Lunar green? Lunar green is only worth the decomp, IMO. Guess you never had to farm tinders or the gold TT mats you need. Don't have the ability to farm 3-2 or 3-3 or lunar, or are a few mats short... have you priced out any of the chip + coin costs? I doubt it.

I know at least a dozen people that had farmed or were currently farming Frost ... from a full set of armor, and others at various stages of farming weapons and ornaments. Indeed it was difficult, but it was doable If the original frost were to come back now, there would be dozens farming it, if only to resell the items... many would actually use them. A number of items are end-game for various classes. Frost neck for heavy venos, daggers for sins, rings for casters that can't afford 180m to farm event rings, etc...

So you have never tried yourself.

Not released at time of change.

Just because you like they turned it into an exp carnival ride doesn't mean it's better.

Nope I don't do frost for exp. I did do Frost before tho.

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So you have never tried yourself.

Not released at time of change.

Nope I don't do frost for exp. I did do Frost before tho.

I had run squad mode with a few different parties but was basically there for the experience (not xp) and the fun. I hadn't actually decided on what I was going to farm before it was nerfed as my party of friends were all working to unlock squad for our regular TT group (which later farmed about 8 pieces of Lunar Gold... full set of HA, 2 CV necks, 2 helms). I was a ming essence and a couple random fragments away when they nerfed it. Yes, if they didn't nerf it, we would have farmed at least a piece or two each.

Did the Frost run after the change... sure, it was fun, for the first couple of times, but then the replay value of it disappeared and all that was left was an easy run any average group of half-fail party members can finish in about an hour and a half. *yawn*. No real skill involved.

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You do know running frost is free?

Anyway Lunar is much more viable option especially on double drops.

Contradict yourself much? Running Lunar now costs 3m, but even before the change, the time, pots, charms and repairs for having to run 3-2 and 3-3 for gold mats as well as all the runs you need to do to drop tinders to make gold is FAR from free. And, almost everyone who makes lunar gold has to chip at least a mat or two. Like I said before Lunar Green, which is easy to farm, is relatively worthless and only worth the decomp.

And again, what's with the double drops? That's not a common occurrence you can rely on. :P