Video of 2/21/10 TW EQ vs Cala

Nice vid Cheze! b:victory

Chezepoo I miss you guys! And nice video specially that one part where some archer got owned by you and goonie b:chuckle

Keep winning those TW's and keep owning people! =p

And I see at 8:14...

Mizuoni:I got ninja'd


b:chuckle


the first song

Heartstone - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I wanan win lottery and +12 all gear so i can be a "good" player too.

Jonas! When you do make sure to share some of the wealth my way so I can +12 all my gear so I can be good as well ;D

Ivy_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And I see at 8:14...

Mizuoni:I got ninja'd


b:chuckle


the first song

ya i had level 100 sins chasing me all day b:shocked

Dibs on Mr. Chezie's gear after he solos Harpy Wraith, gets bored with PWI, and quits.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ya i had level 100 sins chasing me all day b:shocked

I would Chase you miz but you'd see me and one shot me so uhhh ill chase someone who wont do that >D:, Nice vid Cheze you made me want to be a archer for like 9 mins but then i wouldnt be able to run around in stealth and make people wet themselves b:surrenderb:victory

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

nice vid Cheze b:victory

But you know, gameplay like that can be dedicated to a number of Calamity members that have no idea what's the secondary effect of a Seal/sleep or that a Sage Barrage has a 33% dmg decrease to the caster ...
I must admit I had a good laugh and at the same time I asked myself "Is there any skilled wizard left in Calamity?" ...

I remember last weekend we set up a zhen. 5 DBs and 3 BoAs at our gate. People kept on running through it though not stopping at all....most died though....


b:surrenderif i saw 5 DBs and 3 BoAs blocking my way i would turn around asap or at least fly over....

Lol I like how there were mages and archers trying to take out the barrage instead of the catas... and still failing to take out both.

Oh baby did I hurt your feelings? actually, if you read my reply, I never mentioned your name because honestly I was thinking another self centered, self obsessed, egotistical wizard that must've been in Calamity but I totally forgot his name!!!!111one... come to think about it and since you mention him, Lightaine was a Wizard or a Cleric? b:surrender I humbly apologize for judging the wrong douc..eh class.

I('d like to think) have a very respectful relationship with Light as I have with all of Calamity members, but we don't care about each other that (or at all) much to call it bromance. actually, when I was trying out Raging Tide, I was a member of Empire, not Infamy.

In my opinion, you give Cheze too much credit for Equinox victory, yes, he hits hard, yes he can 1 shot any DD that gets near his range. So can Fizban, Pedestrian, Dragoonz (when I was playing) in Equinox, they probably have some more like them by now. Should Calamity devote a whole squad or 2 just to hunt this cannons? check the difference on the damage he does to a player and the one he does to the crystal and towers (roughly 800 damage of almost 5 mill for a tower, 12m for a crystal). Crystal recovers around 1.1k HP per second btw so it is, because of the "good wizards" you mention that spent several minutes of the TW chasing him down that Catapults are able to hit on such buildings for 100k damage every 3 seconds.

TW is not a PK fest, it's a siege. 1 catapult can deal 1 million damage to a tower or crystal every 30 seconds, 2 can take down a tower in over 1 minute, "defending" team job is to kill enemy catapult holder and whoever is keeping it alive to avoid tower or crystal damage. "attacker" team job is to avoid harm on the catapult holder by either killing DDers or by being healing enough or killing enough to be considered a "priority target"... just as a random point, without a catapult, you'd need about 125 cheezedudes hitting a crystal for 3 straight hours so cheezefaction wins the TW.

If anything, the biggest mistake people that died to Cheeze kept making over and over was doing single attacks on him and not being sufficiently spread out from fixed targets: barbs, catapults, towers, crystals and feeding him free kills on Barrage. Worrying too much about 1 endgame player isn't healthy tactically, as there's a point in the video where 2-3 Calamity members actually jump into Cheeze, who's clearly waiting on their catapult squads to push in, trying to score a kill and efficiently getting killed instead. The endgame archer job in TW is in my opinion exactly what's being displayed on this video. Barrage on sieges over strong fixed targets, single target attacking on defenses and to run away.

Apparently the obvious isn't so for mr smartpants. check the video again after reading this, and I will try to explain... very... slowwwwly...

-Cheeze uses wings of grace (immune to all movement debuffs for 15 seconds) prior to the cast of barrage.
-He follows up by either absolute domain or stunning blast, one makes you immune to all stuff, other is anti stune 20-30 seconds of barrage. on which he's taking less damage, at some point he's immune, at other he stuns everything around him.
-His apoth as well as awakening (instantly recharge the 3 sparks lvl 100 archer skill) ensures barrage on demand everytime it's brought down. He pretty much has enough skills and apothecary to produce 5 sparks every minute, that means no down time in barrage.
- The apoth he uses that does not means to create chi, he uses it for immunity or decrease damage, as you can read the red spam over his head when he's not dying as he's attacked by 2 BMs, 1 wizard at least and 1 assassin.
-Barrage has a 12 meter radius, most wizard skills have 30 meter radius (unless your description of a "pro wiz" is to run to an archer's face and DB), all spellcasters have no excuse to be hugging a friendly or foe catapult barb or any melee for any instance given that even Ironheart and lending hand have a 28 and 20 meter radius each, still outside BoA.

so... what I was trying to point out with my first reply, then with my second reply and now this time (just pointing out how even the obvious must be repeated) is:
-The skills to stun, seal, sleep, etc that you and I know exist and will hardly work on a prepared archer, and judging by the Resists! showed up on the video, people is using them.
-Once a Sage enters BoA with 33% reduced damage, you can hardly to try kill him, specially when he's being ironhearted and has about 3 different skills and 2 more genie skills made to reduce or make you immune to damage. He is however limited by either a mobile barb running around his 12 meter radius (a desirable thing) or the fixed 12 meter radius of a tower or crystal. If you really want to kill it, the obvious, which you so efficiently failed to prove is to kill the target that's giving him ironhearts first, then go for a kill, not a stun. as your chances to land one are of less than 20 seconds out of every minute. This remminds me to tell the fellow barbs, if you see a rain animation on you. Stop, press escape, get the barrage caster on your window and say "this dude has barrage on me, move the hell away from me and take him down" dont just run back to your clerics and get all your squad murdered.
-However, pointing out that the archer is limited on barrage range, and that he hardly ever drop a tower on his own. The smartest move you can achieve as a DDer, is to always stay away from your barb and buildings, and take down clerics and barbs that are the real danger to a tower. Unless cheezedude is carrying a catapult while he's casting barrage in a 30 meter range from the crystal or tower and judging by the survival rate he showed at some points on that video might not be a bad idea b:laugh, he means no real danger to your building or crystal, and other than deaths and charm ticks of players that are poorly positioned he means no real danger to the status of the TW. When and if PWI changes TW to a PK count match, then you kill him quick! b:shocked

Hope that was more obvious. b:bye

Andres - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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Hope that was more obvious. b:bye

Impressive how in a wall of text you manage to say ...nothing. Nothing useful anyway.

And really, you need to learn some stuff about wizards and their AoE, and also about the seal/sleep, and I hope mixing the range with radius was just a typo. Even in that case, what you say doesn't make a point.
I wasn't saying anything about killing him while he's in BoA, that's just stupid to try in the first place, but obviously something ppl attacking him in that state couldn't figure it out( see wizard at the end). I was talking about disruption, not letting him or any other lvl 100 archer put the barrage up inside your base. Every genie has holy path, wizards have blink, BMs have sprint to gain speed and movement advantage oven an archer. Yes, he's a skilled archer, but he can be handled by a skilled wizard. This is why I asked where are those wizards in Calamity, cause I haven't seen any in that vid. I just saw ppl die under barrage or in 1v1.
He has skills and very good gear to become a problem in TW And from your advice and slow explanation I should settle for something like " nobody can handle him?" . You just can't ignore him and pretend he doesn't exist and hope that way he'll just be ... teleported ousite of TW.