How much would you pay a cleric for helping out in a BH?

Kirnyn - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't believe clerics should be paid. I do however believe they should be treated like anyother member of the squad and not be taken for granted or used and tossed. My cleric is sitting at this level until I decide if it is worth playing him. Too much **** from other players my level.

Some facts

Clerics ARE tahen for granted because 90% of instances require a cleric.
They aren't getting tossed around if they know how to play their class (nothing much). I am tossing everione around if they are to stupid to play their class AND won't even listen to advice
Regarding the ''mistery'' of playing a cleric or not:
-u get to know your class about 70% when u reach lvl 60
-from that moment the interesting instances start TT/FC/GV, and because of them you get to know how to play your char real well (unless u oracled it)
-and 90+ you get to know your char completley (demon/sage skills)

At lvl 21 your only concern should be lvl-ing, it's kind of a big thing, and, i've heard, it doesn't require a party to toss you around.

if the cleric wants to be payed find a new cleric. I will sometimes go in SP when i'm bored and do bh runs for ppl be healer and tank all at once its not really a problem and as far as pots go I can nearly run a full fb29 without popping a single pot. the only thing I will take from the run is whatever drops went to me.

and a cleric that level should have had no problem healing that barb even if the barb was trying to tank in human form. I have tanked qingzi for bh on my fist bm with a 5x cleric and i know I had much less hp then that barb.

I play both a barb and a cleric.. I have shown up at random bosses, BHs, TTs etc. with both and offered my services I have even logged one or the other that was needed and ported half way across the map to help random strangers with bosses and BHs alike, many times people have offered payment some have even gone as far as mailing payment to me after I refused to take it. When this sort of thing happens I mail the coin back to them. Once we start allowing one class to "charge" for services rendered then all classes will start charging for their services too and where will this lead us? We will have archers in TT counting every arrow they use, wizzy's in FBs counting every mana pot used, BMs will be tallying the dmg to their weapons, Barbs will be expecting payment for dmg to their armor, etc, etc. Who will be paying for all of this? If you want to help then by all means help but dont help and expect payment, you can always say no I dont want to help and then your not out anything at all and will have no costs to cover. When you say "I'll help but you will have to pay me X amt in coins and X amt in pots and X amt in repairs" what you are really saying is " I'm a greedy self-centered nobody who only thinks of myself" If you find yourself in a squad with someone demanding payment I strongly suggest you exercise the right as leader of the squad to use the "boot idiot button" and find someone who genuinely wants to help for the sake of helping.

Gromskull - Harshlands wrote: »

Some facts

Clerics ARE tahen for granted because 90% of instances require a cleric.
They aren't getting tossed around if they know how to play their class (nothing much). I am tossing everione around if they are to stupid to play their class AND won't even listen to advice
Regarding the ''mistery'' of playing a cleric or not:
-u get to know your class about 70% when u reach lvl 60
-from that moment the interesting instances start TT/FC/GV, and because of them you get to know how to play your char real well (unless u oracled it)
-and 90+ you get to know your char completley (demon/sage skills)

At lvl 21 your only concern should be lvl-ing, it's kind of a big thing, and, i've heard, it doesn't require a party to toss you around.

I agree with this post ^^

Personally every cleric should be paid 1m everytime they are in a squad.
Maybe not.

I've never asked for payment, never will and i wont give it either. People should help because they want to not for the money/goods.
I would of just waited and got a proper squad and/or at least get a cleric that isn't so greedy. If he asked me for payment i would of simply said goodbye.

NONE! clerics and barbs should not be given any special treatment!! they aint god!! they are playing their class just like everyone else!!!

I would pay them a thumbs up, a thank you and maybe a good job/good work

b:chuckle

lol dont pay them is not like u forcing them to help u

if they want to help u they doing it on their free will so they have no right to ask for repairs or money. but might be good if u pay tele fee if needed.

I re'rolled as a cleric(from a wizz) because I want to be a support class and help people and the way I see it, you shouldn't charge your help. So no payment on clerics. I will never take payment, nor will I ever give payment for someones help. And definatly not before the run.

Personally, I rather have someone saying I did a good job than to get paid 1 mill and fail at my job. Maybe I'm just weird like that b:laugh

Sometimes you don't want to wait for someone who "needs" something to come along, other times you're trying to persuade someone to come to your group instead of another. You paid 10k + a focus powder, which is easily less than the cost of a tele... and in your situation most people would likely tell you to try worldchatting for a cleric. I don't feel you "overpayed" to get the ball rolling and end the waiting and searching. In your position, I might have done it too.

However (and there's always a however ^_^) just like when you worldchat for a party member, you chose to pay and play with an unknown person. You would have been taking the same risk standing and just asking for a free cleric. The fact you got a fail cleric is a side issue to the fact that you paid him. The fact that he asked for payment was an warning. Having requested and accepted payment to cleric the BH, they should have taken their job seriously and healed properly rather than trying to show off or testing their new skills.

You chose to pay for an unknown person's services and took a gamble on what kind of service that would be. I'd recommend offering known clerics an incentive to break away with what they're doing before agreeing to pay some random person. Often if a friend sees you desperate enough to pay people to help, they'll come help free. If you still end up paying, at least you have an idea of what you're paying for.

0 coins. Come along like everyone else or I'm finding another cleric.

I always laugh at threads like this. You rolled a support class. Don't whine when you have to go support people in instances. In my previous MMO I was a support priest, and I was healing in instances about 90% of my online time, on a pretty full raid schedule. (The other 10% was pvp) I never expected anything other than my chance at drops and the exp gained from the instance, because my job was come and stare at red bars and spam healing hotkeys.

QQ more if you want to get paid for doing what you're supposed to.

ok here's my 2 cents on it...personally i don't pay for help or expect people to pay me.

that being said, if u have to pay for a cleric, don't pay them up front, make sure they know what they're doing, and make it worth their time and mana. if i were to pay a competent cleric or barb, i'd prolly go something like 10k for fb19, 20k for fb29, 30k for fb39, etc. the higher the level of the instance, the more mana the cleric will use or the more abuse and higher repairs the barb will have.

but, as i said, ideally there should be no payment required. you may have to wait longer to fill your squad, but i'd say it's worth it.

another solution: make more friends. my friends list on my veno and cleric are full. i literally have to delete people i haven't seen online in a while to add new people. the other 6 characters i have don't have full friends lists, but they all have at least 15-20 people on them, even the crappy **** tideborn ones i never play.