Is PWI dying?

I blame how all the gold and cash shoppers basically dominate the server economy thus making everything obscurely overpriced. I wouldn't ask for a roll back though because that would mean everyone would just ragequit. Rather, less cash shop type of events and more in game events which require no purchases from the boutique! Like that one Arch Wraith Invasion event so long ago...

Another take on this is how the devs have basically put in or changed certain aspects of the game that were was there (ie. chip prices) so when some people bought the highly priced items before the change of chips and fees, they were very upset. Also I know some 100+ players that are upset about their BH rewards and the removal of the 50 socket stones just because it cut in to PWi's boutique sales of socket stones. A lot of them have stopped doing BH because of this.

There was also the "temporary" addition of the anniversary pack. It's an ANNIVERSARY pack. One year, once a year. But it came back... and came back... and came back. Yes it made it possible for some cash shoppers to become more "powerful" and better geared, but is it really that great for the game? I don't really think so since it takes out the fun of actually getting things on your own or achieving certain levels. I remember getting my fairy at 89 and was like "WOW! Landmark! I did it!" then the genies came out, no longer special. Next up was level 100, I was already in my high 90s before the BH system came out, no oracles. I quit for several months and come back to see this BH system. Ok I thought, I play, and then I realize how easily people get levels now it's ridiculous. Being level 100 and having those three digits now is sort of worthless since there are plenty of high level 100s around the server now in a shorter period of time.

In case anyone wanted to know my vote: Slowly, but surely.

^ what he said, at least until I am able to find a better game.

b:surrender Its been said PW was dying since the dam server opened up.......... And everyone complains when they make pve events but everyone wants them everyone complains no matter what they do so shut up already if you think its dying quit and leave the rest of us alone for a change.

Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:surrender Its been said PW was dying since the dam server opened up.......... And everyone complains when they make pve events but everyone wants them everyone complains no matter what they do so shut up already if you think its dying quit and leave the rest of us alone for a change.

RAGGGGEEEE says the cash shopper.

Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

hmmm whatcha sayin?

translation: its obvious that PWI doesnt care about the overall gameplay, that they cherish money over quality, only cashshoppers seem to disagree. Funny how that works.

What happens when all the freeloaders leave and cash shoppers have no one to boast their epeen against? Boredum, thats what. Once everyone leaves besides the heavy cash shoppers, there will be no more PWI

And I have put money in this game, but Im not blinded like others.

Its against ToS for me to provide links / quotes of several promises made by GMs that were never kept. One certain GM stated that they keep a close eye on gold prices and that steps were being taken to reduce the current inflation.

That was back when gold went from 100-200k eachish. What is gold at now? 350-450k each depending on server.

.. not to mention aniversery packs that lingered several months after the "aniversery". Maybe aniverserys are very much like new years' in China. unno.

Now all the handouts/easy exp with Hyperstone/Oracles. Its obvious they are just milking us dry until their new game unfolds.

Thats still opinions and no solid proof. And I remember those promises but you also remember they thought the anni packs and the jolly jones event would bring it down?

b:lipcurl its like introducing an antibody to the system nothing they can do is fixing it and since people kept saying to leave it alone and the gold would go down. They are leaving it mostly alone and lookit gold is going down.

b:worried Given you peoples prediction history I am disinclined to merit your ideals.

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

They either have no idea how game economy works, or they take us for a ride with false promises, then go "oops our bad" and expect us to understand.

More likely the GMs made those statements, then raised the issue with their bosses thinking they could do something, and PWE accountants told them to STFU.

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

fixed, and yes im disgruntled atm b:surrender

Yes - what you added I was kind of implying.

Trust me, you arent the only disgruntled one. I'm wondering if PWE is calculating how their treatment of PWI is going to affect their reputation in the long run.

Jolly Jones would only lower gold price if gold price was higher than 345,000 coins. Anniversary packs only lower gold price on what people think its worth. Very hard to get a direct correlation especially with the reward rates were altered to be less and less rewarding every time Anniversary packs came back out. Depending on which version it would lower gold if everyone looked at what the reward rate was for it between 325,000-450,000 coins. Both times in Heavens Tear they dramatically risen the gold price once released because gold price before then was much lower.

RAWR! I'm a tiger

Pressa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thats still opinions and no solid proof. And I remember those promises but you also remember they thought the anni packs and the jolly jones event would bring it down?

b:lipcurl its like introducing an antibody to the system nothing they can do is fixing it and since people kept saying to leave it alone and the gold would go down. They are leaving it mostly alone and lookit gold is going down

You gotta be kidding me...

First of all, in order for gold price to go down (what you're noticing now is the 'days after maint' gold drop, on which will rise again bfore maint...something that has always been and always will be present), there has to be a coin drain in game. The amount of coins in game is directly linked to the gold price. So now we take the GMs little events:

Jolly jones: 99.99999% were bought with angels, a cash shop item. It did in no way remove coins from the server. It only gave PWI profit.
Anniversary pack: The most massive coin infestation any game has ever had EVER with the 5M token gamble chance, which came in the thousands.
Lets not forget the all time winner '1M coin chests' as a non-reward for many events in game.

It is, and it doesnt take a genius to figure this out, PWI's intention in keeping a high amount of coins circulating to keep the gold as high as possible. They have proven time and again. You will never see the gold drop below 200k again simply because they're making too much money off the heavy cash shoppers now and getting more new suckers. Many friends of mine bought a few gold just because it hit 500k at some point.
Honestly, its not a bad thing..to make money. What is a bad thing is taking money and giving nothying in return. The game is nowhere near complete. Every instance is bugged in some way. Classes are extremely unbalanced. TW rules arent followed, and the event itself has become lame. There hasnt been a game event for an year and a half.
Basically, they're taking all the money they win here and spending on other games.

As for the main topic, the game itself is alive and will probly linger on for a long time, but the game's essence has died. That is a fact. This is not how a MMO is supposed to be like. This has become more of a chatroom than an online game. On every game update, they remove more and more the fun out of the game and with it, our will to log in. Soon enough, players will get tired of it and simply find another game or another hobby.

You cannot kill that what is already dead.

Rastelin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have no interest in ever playing PWE's other games. So if I quit playing PWI I'll go play Basements and Lizards Online or Hello Kitty Island Adventure. b:chuckle


Btw those aren't real games lol.

i like your name...DragonLance?

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You gotta be kidding me...

First of all, in order for gold price to go down (what you're noticing now is the 'days after maint' gold drop, on which will rise again bfore maint...something that has always been and always will be present), there has to be a coin drain in game. The amount of coins in game is directly linked to the gold price. So now we take the GMs little events:

Jolly jones: 99.99999% were bought with angels, a cash shop item. It did in no way remove coins from the server. It only gave PWI profit.
Anniversary pack: The most massive coin infestation any game has ever had EVER with the 5M token gamble chance, which came in the thousands.
Lets not forget the all time winner '1M coin chests' as a non-reward for many events in game.

It is, and it doesnt take a genius to figure this out, PWI's intention in keeping a high amount of coins circulating to keep the gold as high as possible. They have proven time and again. You will never see the gold drop below 200k again simply because they're making too much money off the heavy cash shoppers now and getting more new suckers. Many friends of mine bought a few gold just because it hit 500k at some point.
Honestly, its not a bad thing..to make money. What is a bad thing is taking money and giving nothying in return. The game is nowhere near complete. Every instance is bugged in some way. Classes are extremely unbalanced. TW rules arent followed, and the event itself has become lame. There hasnt been a game event for an year and a half.
Basically, they're taking all the money they win here and spending on other games.

As for the main topic, the game itself is alive and will probly linger on for a long time, but the game's essence has died. That is a fact. This is not how a MMO is supposed to be like. This has become more of a chatroom than an online game. On every game update, they remove more and more the fun out of the game and with it, our will to log in. Soon enough, players will get tired of it and simply find another game or another hobby.

well spoken, I couldn't have worded it better.

Even content in other versions of PW, like the arena.... or refine transfer. Ask yourself why they arent in this version.

Simple, it would have a negative effect on their wallets. Refine Transfer would mean less money spent on Orbs to refine gear over and over.

Arena: a fun way to pvp without consequences (besides charm ****). The only reason its not in this version is because thats where the majority of people would be who want to engage in pvp without buying dolls ( a cash shop item that pwi would see reduced sales in)

Devs/management needs to take a strong look on the game and actually start fixing bugs that has existed since the release of PWI and stop all the pretty glittery shiny **** in the Cash Shop.